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Something important to consider: if your wife's parents claim her as a dependent AND she files her own return (separate from you), the IRS system will flag this as conflicting information. This happened to my brother last year and both returns got held up for months while they sorted it out. Make sure whatever you decide, everyone is on the same page about who's claiming what before any returns get filed. Communication is key here!
That's a really good point! I definitely don't want any flags on our returns that could delay processing. If we did decide to let her parents claim her, would she just not file at all then? Or would she still need to file something showing zero income? I'm a bit confused about the mechanics of how that would work.
If she had any income (like from a part-time job) with taxes withheld, she would still need to file to get her withholding refunded. In that case, she would file as "Married Filing Separately" and check the box that says "Someone can claim you as a dependent." If she had no income that required filing, then she wouldn't need to file a return at all. The key is making sure she doesn't claim herself as a dependent on her own return if her parents are claiming her. You'd file your return as "Married Filing Separately" and claim only your own education expenses for your AOC. But honestly, from what you've described, filing jointly will probably give you both better tax benefits overall than the split approach.
Did you run the actual numbers for both scenarios? When my husband and I were in school, we initially thought letting my parents claim me would be better, but when we actually calculated everything, filing jointly saved us about $1,800 more than the other option. Filing separately has a lot of hidden downsides - lower standard deduction, can't contribute to a Roth IRA if your income is too low, can't claim childcare credits if you have kids later, etc. Plus the whole process is much more complicated.
Everyone's talking about the process, but let me speak to the actual tax implications... I did exactly what you're considering last year (stayed C-corp for first year, switched to S-corp for second year). BIG MISTAKE. I had about $120K in profit, and ended up paying almost $22K more in total taxes than if I'd pursued the late election. The double taxation is no joke. Plus I had a hell of a time with the C-corp tax return (Form 1120) which is WAY more complicated than the S-corp return (1120-S). Unless your profits are super low or you're planning to keep all money in the business, I'd strongly recommend pursuing the late relief option. The hassle of filing the late election is nothing compared to the tax headache of C-corp status for a small business.
Did you prepare your own C-corp return or use an accountant? I'm wondering if I can handle this myself with tax software or if I need to hire someone.
I tried to do it myself with one of the major tax software packages, but it was so complicated that I ended up hiring an accountant halfway through - cost me $1,800 for the return preparation. The C-corp tax forms and rules are designed for larger businesses with accounting departments, not solo entrepreneurs. Even with good tax software, you'll need to understand corporate tax concepts like accumulated earnings, AMT adjustments, and dividend distributions that most small business owners never deal with. The S-corp return is significantly more straightforward for small operations. Trust me - either file for late relief or get a very good accountant if you stay as a C-corp.
Has anyone used TurboTax Business for filing C-corp returns? Is it manageable for a simple single-member situation like OP's?
I used TurboTax Business for my C-corp last year and it was...challenging. The software itself is fine, but you need to know a LOT of corporate tax concepts, and the guidance isn't great. For a super simple C-corp with minimal transactions it might be doable, but I spent about 15 hours on my return with only moderate complexity.
I'm a firm believer in doing taxes yourself at first, even if you eventually hire someone. You learn so much about your finances by struggling through it once. I did my own for two years with a side business before hiring someone, and that knowledge helped me know what questions to ask and understand what my accountant was doing. The middle ground might be hiring someone this year since you have so many changes, but asking them to explain everything they're doing. Take notes, ask questions, and then decide if you want to try it yourself next year. Most tax planners are happy to teach you if you're interested.
Do you think the knowledge gained is worth possibly missing deductions though? I'd hate to leave money on the table just to learn how the system works.
That's a fair concern. The knowledge gained probably isn't worth missing major deductions your first year. A good compromise might be using a tax professional this year, but requesting a detailed walkthrough of what they're doing and why. Most will provide a summary of deductions they found and tax-saving strategies. Then use that knowledge next year if your situation remains similar. The first-year learning curve with a side business is the steepest, so professional help makes sense now. If you continue the business, you'll be much better prepared to DIY next year if you want to save the professional fees.
Has anyone tried those mid-tier options like the "CPA review" services where you prepare everything yourself but then a CPA checks your work? They're cheaper than full tax prep services but give you some professional eyes on your return.
I used TaxFyle last year which does that. You input everything into their system and then a CPA reviews it. Cost me about $150 which was way less than full service. The CPA actually found a mistake that would have cost me about $400, so definitely worth it in my case.
I'm a CPA in Ohio, and here's my take: your friend significantly undercharged you. Even with the $300 extra, he's still below market rate. For a tax return with: - MFJ - 3 Schedule C businesses - Multiple 1099s - Mortgage interest I'd typically charge $900-1200 minimum in the Midwest. In larger cities, it would be $1400+. The three businesses alone add significant complexity, even if they're straightforward. Your friend might be charging less because: 1. He's building his practice and wants to keep you as a client 2. He values your friendship 3. He's already familiar with your finances from the bookkeeping work
Thanks, this is super helpful. So it sounds like even with my extra payment, I'm still on the low end of market rate. Is there a tactful way to bring this up with him? I don't want to offend him by suggesting he doesn't know how to price his services, but I also want to make sure he's being compensated fairly.
I would simply have an honest conversation with him. Say something like, "I've been doing some research, and it seems like the going rate for tax preparation with my level of complexity is significantly higher than what you charged. I value your expertise and want to make sure I'm compensating you fairly for your time and knowledge." Many new practitioners underprice their services when starting out, especially with friends. He might be hesitant to charge you full market rate. Another approach could be asking about his hourly rate and how many hours he spent on your return. This gives him an opening to realize and adjust his pricing without direct criticism.
Just want to mention - it's not just about the complexity of your return, but also the liability your CPA takes on. When a CPA signs a tax return, they're putting their license and reputation on the line. Each Schedule C business adds significant liability. If there's an audit, your friend would need to defend the positions taken on each business. The $725 he charged barely covers the professional liability insurance risk for a return with multiple businesses.
Emma Wilson
One resource that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Multistate Tax Commission website. They have some good reference materials, especially if your clients operate in states that are part of their various compacts and agreements. It won't give you everything, but it does provide a starting point for understanding differences between state requirements. I'd also highly recommend joining the state and local tax committees of your state CPA society. The networking alone has saved our firm countless hours - we often share resources and spreadsheets tracking various filing requirements.
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Malik Davis
ā¢Do you have any specific spreadsheet templates you'd be willing to share? We're trying to build our own tracking system but starting from scratch is time-consuming.
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Emma Wilson
ā¢I don't have anything I can share publicly, but I can describe our basic setup. We created an Excel workbook with separate tabs for each state. Each tab has columns for filing type, frequency, due dates, extensions available, online filing portal links, and special notes/requirements. We also color-code cells based on industry relevance, since some filings only apply to specific client types. The most valuable column has been our "common mistakes" section where we document issues we've encountered previously with that particular filing.
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Isabella Santos
Has anyone tried BNA's Checkpoint State Tax Navigator? My firm has been considering it but it's a significant investment.
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Ravi Gupta
ā¢We use Checkpoint and while it's comprehensive, the interface is clunky and finding specific filing requirements can be time-consuming. It's better for research than as a quick reference guide for compliance deadlines. We ended up building our own calendar system anyway.
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