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I messed up a similar situation last year with distributions from my IRA. From personal experience, here's what will probably happen if you don't amend: 1. In about 6-12 months, you'll get a CP2000 notice saying they found unreported income 2. They'll calculate the additional tax plus interest and penalties 3. You'll either have to pay it or contest it It's way easier to just file the 1040-X now. The penalties will be lower and you'll avoid the stress of getting that IRS letter.
Thanks for sharing your experience! How complicated was it to file the amendment? I've never done one before and I'm worried I'll mess it up somehow.
Filing the amendment through TurboTax was pretty straightforward. Since you already filed with them, you just log in, choose the option to amend your 2023 return, and follow the prompts. It'll ask what you're changing, and you'd select "income" and then add the 1099-R information. The system recalculates everything automatically. Just review the changes carefully before submitting. If your situation is simple like mine was (just adding a missed form), it shouldn't take more than 30-45 minutes. The hardest part is waiting for processing - paper amendments can take 6+ months to process currently.
Just curious, did your 1099-R have code G in box 7? That code is specifically for a direct rollover to a Roth IRA and has specific tax implications. If your form doesn't have the right code, it could affect how it should be reported.
Not the OP, but I think that's what they meant by "Form G" - they were referring to the distribution code in box 7. That's super important for determining the tax treatment.
There's another option that nobody has mentioned yet. If the property will be used as the buyer's residence AND the sale price is under $1 million, the withholding rate is reduced from 15% to 10%. Also, if your coworker has owned and used the property as her main home for at least 2 of the last 5 years, she might qualify for the primary residence exclusion, which can exclude up to $250k of gain from taxation ($500k for married couples). The realtor is giving terrible advice. Selling below market value is literally throwing money away.
Does the primary residence exclusion apply to nonresident aliens too? I thought that was only for US citizens and residents.
You're right to question this - the primary residence exclusion actually doesn't apply to nonresident aliens. I should have been more clear about that. While US citizens and resident aliens can exclude up to $250k/$500k of gain on a primary residence, nonresident aliens generally cannot take advantage of this exclusion. However, the reduced withholding rate (10% instead of 15%) for properties under $1 million that will be used as the buyer's residence still applies regardless of the seller's status. This is just for the withholding amount though, not the final tax liability.
I was in this exact situation last year. Tell your coworker to file IRS Form 8288-B BEFORE closing to request a withholding certificate for a reduced amount based on her expected actual tax liability. You'll need: - Copy of purchase contract - Estimated closing statement - Proof of her basis in the property (original purchase price + improvements) - Calculation of expected gain It takes 2-3 months to process so start ASAP! If the sale needs to happen before approval, she can still get a refund by filing a tax return, but having thousands tied up with the IRS for months isn't ideal.
Can u file the 8288-B yourself or do u need a tax preparer to do it?
14 Former municipal tax office worker here. This happens more often than you'd think. School districts and municipalities sell delinquent tax accounts to improve their immediate cash flow rather than waiting to collect. Unfortunately, once it's sold, you do have to deal with the collection agency. However, there's a possible solution: ask your employer for a formal letter acknowledging their error in not withholding the proper taxes. With that documentation, you'll have a much stronger case when you call the collection agency. Request to speak to a manager (not just a frontline rep) and explain that you're willing to pay the base tax immediately but not the fees due to employer error. In my experience, many agencies will waive at least part of the fees if you're willing to pay the base amount immediately.
5 Would filing a complaint with the state tax board help in this situation? I've heard they sometimes intervene in collection disputes.
14 Filing a complaint with the state tax board might help, but it usually takes time - often weeks or months. It's worth doing if other approaches fail, but I'd try direct negotiation first. That said, some states do have specific regulations about what collection agencies can charge for tax debts. Check your state's department of revenue website for information about third-party tax collectors. Some states require these agencies to register and follow specific guidelines, which might include limits on fees they can charge.
2 Is anyone else concerned that your employer messed up and YOU have to pay the penalty? I'd definitely talk to HR/payroll because this is their mistake. I had something similar happen with state income tax a couple years ago and my company reimbursed me for the penalties after I proved it was their withholding error. Don't just accept those fees without pushing back!
9 Absolutely! Document everything and take it to your employer first. When this happened to me, my HR department initially brushed me off, but when I escalated to the company controller and showed the withholding discrepancy on my pay stubs compared to the tax requirement, they covered the penalties. Companies have insurance for payroll errors for exactly this reason.
Just to add to what others have said - the difference between your gross income ($56k) and taxable income ($35k) includes both "above-the-line" deductions (adjustments to income) AND your standard/itemized deduction. For example: - Gross Income: $56,000 - Minus Adjustments (SEP-IRA, student loan interest, etc.): $6,000 - Equals AGI: $50,000 - Minus Standard Deduction: $15,000 - Equals Taxable Income: $35,000 For your educational credits question - yes, there are education credits like the American Opportunity Credit and Lifetime Learning Credit, but they have income limits based on your MODIFIED AGI. So knowing your actual AGI is important for planning.
Thanks so much for breaking this down! This makes way more sense now. I found my tax return and my AGI was actually $48,500, so my adjustments were about $7,500 and then the standard deduction took me down to the $35k taxable income. Do you know what the income limits are for those education credits? I'm hoping to qualify next year.
For 2025 (taxes you'll file in 2026), the American Opportunity Credit begins to phase out at $80,000 MAGI for single filers and $160,000 for married filing jointly. It's completely phased out at $90,000/$180,000. The Lifetime Learning Credit has the same phaseout ranges. With your AGI around $48,500, you should be well within the limits to claim either credit as long as your income doesn't increase dramatically. The American Opportunity Credit is worth up to $2,500 but can only be claimed for the first 4 years of undergraduate education. The Lifetime Learning Credit is worth up to $2,000 and can be used for any level of education, including graduate courses or professional development.
Anyone know if it's better to use the AGI or the taxable income figure when applying for a mortgage? I'm in a similar income range ($52k gross) and getting different advice from different lenders.
Mortgage lenders will almost always look at your gross income (before any deductions) and sometimes specifically at your AGI, not your taxable income. They want to know your actual earnings capacity, not the number after all your deductions. They'll typically ask for 2 years of tax returns and recent pay stubs to verify your income.
Ethan Wilson
I've been through this exact situation. Make sure you're also looking at the "tiebreaker rules" for claiming a dependent. Since you're the biological parent and your ex's boyfriend is not, you would win any tiebreaker situation if both of you tried to claim your daughter in the same year. The tiebreaker rules prioritize parents over non-parents. Also, keep records showing that your daughter doesn't live with the boyfriend year-round. If they try to claim her anyway and the IRS flags both returns, you'll need to prove your case. Things like school records showing your address, medical records, and documentation of your custody arrangement are all helpful.
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NeonNinja
ā¢Thanks for the advice on the tiebreaker rules. I didn't know parents get priority over non-parents. That's really helpful. I definitely have plenty of documentation showing my daughter doesn't live with the boyfriend full-time. Our custody is actually 60/40 with me having the 60%, so I have her more than half the year anyway. So even if my ex was trying to claim her in her years, sounds like I'd win the tiebreaker?
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Ethan Wilson
ā¢Yes, with 60% custody, you definitely have the stronger claim under the IRS residency test since your daughter lives with you for more than half the year. And you're right - biological parents do have priority over non-parents in tiebreaker situations. The fact that you have majority physical custody actually means you could technically claim your daughter every year under IRS rules, regardless of what your custody agreement says. However, be aware that violating your custody agreement (even if IRS rules would allow it) could potentially lead to family court issues. Some judges take tax provisions in custody agreements very seriously.
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Yuki Sato
Make sure you're keeping detailed records of when your daughter is with you vs when she's with your ex. If your ex's boyfriend does try to claim her and it triggers an IRS review, having a calendar with all the days marked will be super important. Also save things like school records that show your address, medical appointments you took her to, etc. My sister went through something similar and what helped her was having text messages where her ex admitted the kid lived with her most of the time. The more documentation you have, the better!
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Carmen Flores
ā¢I'd also recommend getting the custody agreement clarified through the court if possible. My ex tried pulling something similar, and we ended up going back to court to get specific language about tax benefits added to our custody order.
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