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Quick question - does anyone know if not filing 2021 taxes will affect my 2024 tax filing that I'm about to do? Will the IRS system flag me when I try to file this year's taxes?
Filing your 2024 taxes shouldn't be directly affected by your unfiled 2021 return. Each tax year is technically treated separately. The IRS system won't automatically block you from e-filing your 2024 return just because 2021 is missing. However, there can be indirect effects. If you're claiming certain credits or deductions in 2024 that relate to prior year information, there could be verification issues. Additionally, if the IRS has already started sending you notices about your unfiled 2021 return, it's best to address that situation promptly rather than filing a new year while ignoring the past issue.
Anyone else notice that the IRS seems WAY more aggressive about unfiled returns lately? My brother got a scary letter about his unfiled 2020 return even though they actually owed him a refund. Seems like they're doing a big push to get everyone caught up.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here - you should also get your financial situation in order ASAP. You'll likely end up on a payment plan with the IRS, and they'll want to see your current finances. Start gathering bank statements, credit card statements, loan documents, etc. Figure out your current income, expenses, assets, and debts. The IRS will use this information to determine what you can reasonably pay each month. Also, if you have any ability to start setting aside money now for the eventual tax bill, do it. Even if it's not enough to cover everything, showing good faith by having some payment ready can sometimes help negotiations. Depending on your situation, you might want to look into tax relief options like an Offer in Compromise, but your attorney will guide you on that.
Is there a specific form the IRS uses to collect this financial information? I'm dealing with a different tax issue but also need to show my financial situation.
Yes, the IRS typically uses Form 433-A for individuals or 433-B for businesses to collect financial information when setting up payment plans or considering settlements. It's extremely detailed - asks about all income sources, expenses, assets, and liabilities. They may also request supporting documentation like bank statements and pay stubs. I recommend starting to compile this information early because it can take time to gather everything. Also, be completely honest on these forms - the IRS can verify much of this information, and additional dishonesty at this stage would only make your situation worse.
PLEASE don't admit to fraud directly!!! I made this exact mistake and it turned a simple audit into a criminal investigation. Let your attorney do the talking. The language you use matters enormously. There's a huge difference between "I can't find documentation for these deductions" and "I made up these deductions." One is a documentation problem, the other is admission of a crime. Your attorney will know how to navigate this, but whatever you do, don't contact the auditor before speaking with an attorney, and don't volunteer information about intent. Let the attorney handle all communications - that's literally what you're paying them for.
This is the best advice here. The distinction between poor documentation and intentional fraud is HUGE in the eyes of the IRS and the law. Let your attorney frame the situation appropriately.
Thank you so much for this warning. I definitely would have just blurted everything out in panic if I hadn't read this. I'll make sure to let the attorney handle all communication and not volunteer anything about what I was thinking or intending. I've contacted a tax attorney who specializes in these cases and have an appointment tomorrow morning. I'm going to bring copies of all the audit letters and my previous tax returns. Should I prepare anything else for this first meeting?
My audit for claiming my niece as a dependent took almost 9 months to resolve last year. The IRS is seriously understaffed and overwhelmed. My advice is to keep checking your transcript on the IRS website - sometimes it updates there before you get any official notice. And whatever you do, keep copies of EVERYTHING you send them.
How do you check your transcript? Is that something on the IRS website?
Yes, you can access your tax transcripts through the IRS website by creating an account at irs.gov/account. Once logged in, you can request various transcript types - the "account transcript" is most useful for tracking audit status as it shows all activity on your account. If you're not tech savvy or have trouble with the online verification, you can also request transcripts by mail using Form 4506-T, but obviously that takes longer to receive.
My sister went through an audit for the same thing and had her case resolved in about 4 months, which was faster than they initially told her. The key is calling the examiner directly if you have their contact info on any of the notices. Don't just sit and wait! Sometimes files get stuck at the bottom of someone's pile.
Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA specifically for this? I find their interface less intuitive than TurboTax and I'm worried about messing up my backdoor Roth reporting.
Thanks so much! That's super helpful. One more question - did you have to do anything special to indicate that you made contributions for two different tax years in the same calendar year? That's the part I'm most worried about messing up.
For contributions to different tax years, you report the contribution for the previous tax year on that year's return (so your 2023 contribution would be on your 2023 return), but all conversions go on the return for the year when they actually happened. If you already filed your 2023 return without reporting the contribution, you'll need to amend it. In FreeTaxUSA, go to the "Amend 2023 Return" option from your account page. Then both conversions will be reported on your 2024 return since they both happened in 2024.
Don't mean to hijack the thread but quick question - if I did a backdoor Roth for the first time this year and have never had a trad IRA before, is it as simple as just reporting the contribution and conversion? I keep hearing about pro-rata rules and I'm freaking out.
You're in the ideal situation for a backdoor Roth! With no existing Traditional IRA balances, you don't have to worry about the pro-rata rule. It is indeed as simple as: 1. Report the nondeductible Traditional IRA contribution 2. Report the conversion to Roth Since you have no pre-tax money in any Traditional IRAs, your conversion will be tax-free (except for any earnings between the contribution and conversion). The pro-rata headaches only come into play when you have existing pre-tax money in Traditional IRAs. Consider yourself lucky!
Connor O'Reilly
You might want to look into a first-time penalty abatement (FTA) request if you have a clean compliance history for the three years before 2019. The IRS can sometimes waive penalties for a first offense, even without "reasonable cause." But with your medical situation, you definitely have a reasonable cause argument too. Just make sure you keep making estimated tax payments for your current year while dealing with this past debt. The IRS looks at current compliance when considering payment arrangements.
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NeonNomad
ā¢Thanks for mentioning the first-time penalty abatement option - I had no idea that existed. My tax history before this was pretty clean since I was an employee with standard W-2 income. Does the size of the penalty affect whether they'll approve the FTA? And how do I actually request it - is there a specific form or do I need to call?
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Connor O'Reilly
ā¢The size of the penalty doesn't technically affect FTA eligibility. The IRS looks at your compliance history, not the dollar amount. You can request it by calling the IRS directly, writing a letter, or having your tax professional include it with other negotiations. There's no specific form, but you need to explicitly ask for "first-time penalty abatement" and explain that you have a clean compliance record for the three prior years. If you call, be prepared for the agent to possibly deny it initially. Many frontline agents aren't fully trained on FTA policies. You might need to escalate to a manager or submit the request in writing. Your medical circumstances actually give you two separate arguments for penalty removal - both FTA and reasonable cause, which strengthens your position considerably.
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Yara Khoury
Whatever you do, DON'T ignore the levy notice. That's the point where the IRS can start taking your stuff without further notice. They can hit bank accounts, garnish wages, etc. I made that mistake and had my checking account completely emptied one morning without warning. Call the IRS right away and at minimum get a "Currently Not Collectible" status while you figure out your next steps. That'll pause collection actions.
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Keisha Taylor
ā¢Totally agree! My cousin ignored IRS notices and they took his car and froze all his accounts. It was a nightmare trying to get basic living expenses after that. The IRS doesn't mess around once they start the levy process.
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