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QuantumQuest

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21 One thing nobody's mentioned is the wash sale rule! If you sell an investment at a loss and buy the same or "substantially identical" investment within 30 days before or after the sale, you can't claim the loss for tax purposes. This applies to both short-term and long-term losses. I learned this the hard way last year when I sold some tech stocks at a loss, then bought them back 2 weeks later when the price dropped even more. My broker's tax statement showed the loss as "disallowed" and I couldn't use it to offset gains.

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QuantumQuest

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4 So how long do you have to wait before you can buy the same stock again and still claim the loss? Is it exactly 30 days?

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QuantumQuest

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21 Yes, it's exactly 30 days before or after the sale. So to be safe, you need to wait a full 31 days before repurchasing the same or substantially similar securities if you want to claim the capital loss. It's important to note this applies across accounts too - so selling in your regular account and buying in your IRA within that window would still trigger the wash sale rule. And it's not just identical stocks - the IRS considers "substantially identical" securities to fall under this rule as well, which can sometimes include options on the same stock or very similar ETFs.

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QuantumQuest

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14 Does anyone know if you can "save up" capital losses for future years when you might be in a higher tax bracket? I have about $12,000 in losses this year but my income is pretty low. Would it make sense to only claim the $3,000 for this year and carry the rest forward to next year when I expect to have a higher income?

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QuantumQuest

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8 You don't really have a choice. The tax code requires you to claim the $3,000 loss against your current year income, and then carry forward the remaining $9,000 to future years. You can't voluntarily "save" the entire $12,000 for future years when you might be in a higher bracket.

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One important thing to consider that nobody's mentioned yet - if your cousin had clients who paid him more than $600 in any year, they might have filed 1099s reporting those payments to the IRS. That means the IRS already knows about some of his income, which is why getting ahead of this voluntarily is so important. Also tell him to look into Qualified Business Income deduction which became available in 2018 - it could reduce his taxable income by up to 20% for the self-employment income. That could make a huge difference across multiple years of back taxes.

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That's a really good point about the 1099s. He mostly worked for cash but did have some corporate clients who probably reported payments. For the QBI deduction, would that apply even though he didn't file on time? It seems like a huge benefit to miss out on.

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The QBI deduction absolutely applies even for late filed returns! The deduction is tied to the tax year, not when you file. Just make sure when you prepare the 2018-2024 returns that you calculate and claim this deduction - it's basically free money that reduces self-employment tax liability by allowing you to deduct up to 20% of qualified business income. As for the 1099 situation, this is actually why I suggested filing everything at once rather than staggering. The IRS computer system will match reported 1099 income with filed returns, and if you file incomplete years while leaving gaps, it can trigger automated notices for the missing years.

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Justin Chang

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Speaking from experience, the biggest issue with back taxes is getting overwhelmed and doing nothing. I put off filing for 7 years and the anxiety was worse than the actual process of fixing it. Start with whatever year you have the most complete records for to build confidence. The hardest part is just starting. And honestly tax pros who specialize in back taxes aren't as expensive as you might think - I paid $1200 total for help with 7 years of unfiled returns and it was the best money I ever spent because they found deductions I never would have known about.

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Grace Thomas

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Did you have to pay all the back taxes at once? That's what scares me - I'm in a similar situation and worried I'll owe tens of thousands I don't have.

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Mason Davis

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Something similar happened to me in my first job. You should also check if you're classified as an independent contractor (1099) rather than an employee (W-2). If you're a 1099, they won't withhold ANY taxes and you're responsible for paying quarterly estimated taxes yourself. Your pay stub will give you clues - if you don't see any tax withholdings at all (not even Social Security and Medicare), you might be misclassified.

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Thanks, but they are definitely taking out Social Security and Medicare, plus state tax for Michigan. It's just the federal income tax that's missing. I think I must have messed up my W4 somehow. Going to talk to HR tomorrow!

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Mason Davis

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That's good then! Definitely just a W4 issue. When you talk to HR, ask them to calculate how much federal tax you should have paid year-to-date so you can plan ahead for what you'll owe. Also ask about updating your W4 to include extra withholding on Line 4(c) to make up some of the difference over your remaining paychecks.

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Don't panic too much! I had the same issue my first year working (also in Michigan). I fixed my W4 halfway through the year and had them take out extra each check to catch up. If your income isn't super high, you might only owe a few hundred dollars at tax time, not thousands. If you're making under $30K as a single person, your tax liability is fairly low because of the standard deduction.

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Jacob Lewis

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This is misleading advice. Even at lower income levels, federal tax can be significant. Standard deduction for 2025 is projected around $13,850 for single filers, but if OP is making even $35K, they'd still owe about $2,300 in federal tax. That's not a small amount to come up with all at once!

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Need Advice - I Owe $193,000 to the IRS from Back Taxes

I've been doing a lot of soul-searching lately and finally ready to face what I've been avoiding for years. Not proud of this situation at all. Back in 2019, my business was doing really well and I was bringing in more money than I'd ever seen before. I did make some estimated tax payments, but then 2020 hit with the pandemic and everything fell apart. My income tanked almost overnight. Around the same time, I had a major health crisis that put me in the hospital for a serious operation (10+ hours on the table) and left me with a brutal recovery period. In the chaos of it all, I managed to pay my state taxes but severely underpaid my federal taxes. The original amount was around $167k that I owed the IRS. I've basically been pretending this wasn't happening for years, which was obviously a terrible idea. Just got a certified letter today saying they're planning to levy $193k now with all the penalties and interest added on. My financial situation is much better these days. I have enough assets where I could technically pay it all, but it would wipe out a significant portion of what I've worked to build back up. (Looking back, I should never have counted that unpaid tax money as part of my net worth anyway.) I'm trying to figure out my next steps: - Should I just call the IRS directly and try to set up a payment plan? - Is hiring a tax attorney worth the expense? - I tried the OIC (Offer in Compromise) pre-qualification on the IRS website and definitely don't qualify - Not sure if there's any way to negotiate the amount down, especially the $8k penalty portion I already feel like the world's biggest idiot for letting this happen, so please go easy on the judgment. It was a crazy time in my life, but I know I need to fix this now.

You might want to look into a first-time penalty abatement (FTA) request if you have a clean compliance history for the three years before 2019. The IRS can sometimes waive penalties for a first offense, even without "reasonable cause." But with your medical situation, you definitely have a reasonable cause argument too. Just make sure you keep making estimated tax payments for your current year while dealing with this past debt. The IRS looks at current compliance when considering payment arrangements.

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NeonNomad

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Thanks for mentioning the first-time penalty abatement option - I had no idea that existed. My tax history before this was pretty clean since I was an employee with standard W-2 income. Does the size of the penalty affect whether they'll approve the FTA? And how do I actually request it - is there a specific form or do I need to call?

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The size of the penalty doesn't technically affect FTA eligibility. The IRS looks at your compliance history, not the dollar amount. You can request it by calling the IRS directly, writing a letter, or having your tax professional include it with other negotiations. There's no specific form, but you need to explicitly ask for "first-time penalty abatement" and explain that you have a clean compliance record for the three prior years. If you call, be prepared for the agent to possibly deny it initially. Many frontline agents aren't fully trained on FTA policies. You might need to escalate to a manager or submit the request in writing. Your medical circumstances actually give you two separate arguments for penalty removal - both FTA and reasonable cause, which strengthens your position considerably.

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Yara Khoury

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Whatever you do, DON'T ignore the levy notice. That's the point where the IRS can start taking your stuff without further notice. They can hit bank accounts, garnish wages, etc. I made that mistake and had my checking account completely emptied one morning without warning. Call the IRS right away and at minimum get a "Currently Not Collectible" status while you figure out your next steps. That'll pause collection actions.

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Totally agree! My cousin ignored IRS notices and they took his car and froze all his accounts. It was a nightmare trying to get basic living expenses after that. The IRS doesn't mess around once they start the levy process.

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Mason Stone

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Quick question - does anyone know if not filing 2021 taxes will affect my 2024 tax filing that I'm about to do? Will the IRS system flag me when I try to file this year's taxes?

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Kylo Ren

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Filing your 2024 taxes shouldn't be directly affected by your unfiled 2021 return. Each tax year is technically treated separately. The IRS system won't automatically block you from e-filing your 2024 return just because 2021 is missing. However, there can be indirect effects. If you're claiming certain credits or deductions in 2024 that relate to prior year information, there could be verification issues. Additionally, if the IRS has already started sending you notices about your unfiled 2021 return, it's best to address that situation promptly rather than filing a new year while ignoring the past issue.

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Anyone else notice that the IRS seems WAY more aggressive about unfiled returns lately? My brother got a scary letter about his unfiled 2020 return even though they actually owed him a refund. Seems like they're doing a big push to get everyone caught up.

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Yeah the IRS got a funding boost recently and they've been upgrading their systems to better track unfiled returns. They're definitely sending more notices out. But I've heard they're still prioritizing high-income non-filers over people who made under $25k. They go where the money is!

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