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Just wanted to add something important - make sure you also address your state taxes! I made the mistake of focusing only on federal and then got hit with state penalties that were actually worse in some ways. Each state has different rules about catching up on back taxes, so check your state's tax agency website or call them directly.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Do you know if state tax agencies are generally easier to deal with than the IRS? And do they also have programs like the Fresh Start or Offer in Compromise?
In my experience, state tax agencies can actually be easier to deal with than the IRS. The phone wait times are usually shorter, and you can often make an in-person appointment at a local office. Many states do have their own versions of settlement programs similar to the IRS Offer in Compromise, though they might call them different things. For example, California has an "Offer in Compromise" program that's similar to the IRS version, while New York calls theirs an "Offer in Settlement." The qualification requirements and terms can vary significantly by state, so definitely look into your specific state's options.
Honestly the best thing I did was bite the bullet and hire a tax attorney who specializes in unfiled returns. Cost me about $2,500 but they handled EVERYTHING and got me on a payment plan I could actually afford. The peace of mind was worth every penny. Just make sure you find someone who specializes in this specific issue - not all tax preparers are equipped for complex back tax situations.
Did the attorney deal with both federal and state taxes? And how did they handle years where you didn't have documents?
Realtor here with 15 years experience. A strategy I've used successfully: separate your "must have" deductions from your "nice to have" ones. Expenses like license renewal, E&O insurance, and MLS fees are expected on a realtor's Schedule C. Skipping those might raise flags. But you can skip things like home office, some vehicle expenses, cell phone percentage, etc. Also, talk to your lender about using alternative verification methods like a "bank statement loan" where they look at deposits rather than tax returns. These usually have slightly higher rates but might work better for your situation.
What about using a tax professional who specializes in real estate? I've heard they can help optimize both deductions and loan qualification. Any experience with that?
Absolutely! Working with a tax professional who specializes in real estate is one of the best investments you can make. They understand both sides of this equation. I've worked with the same CPA for a decade, and she's saved many of my clients who are also realtors from making mistakes with their deductions. A good real estate tax specialist will help you categorize expenses as either "ordinary and necessary" (which the IRS expects to see) versus discretionary deductions. They can also help document your income in ways that make sense to mortgage underwriters. The fee you'll pay them is typically far less than what you'll save either in tax benefits or loan qualification improvements.
This is honestly why I hate being self-employed sometimes. W-2 employees don't have to make these ridiculous decisions between paying more taxes and qualifying for loans. Has anyone used Fannie Mae's new self-employed income calculation worksheet? My lender mentioned it but wasn't very familiar with it.
Yes! That worksheet is a game-changer. It has specific lines for adding back certain business expenses when calculating your qualifying income. Ask your lender specifically about Form 1084 (the self-employed income analysis form). It standardizes how they look at Schedule C income and gives you a clearer picture of what they'll actually count.
One thing nobody's mentioned - sometimes these CP321D letters happen because someone filed a fraudulent return using your son's info. Happened to my daughter last year. Definitely check your son's credit report too just to be safe.
Omg I didn't even think about that possibility! How would we know if that's what happened? And what did you have to do to fix it?
You can usually tell if there's potential identity theft if the notice mentions income sources your son didn't actually have. For example, if the notice shows income from employers he never worked for or investment income from accounts he doesn't own. In our case, we had to file Form 14039 (Identity Theft Affidavit) with the IRS and provide documentation proving my daughter's legitimate income. We also placed a fraud alert on her credit reports and froze her credit as a precaution. The IRS has a special department for tax-related identity theft cases, and they eventually cleared everything up - though it did take about 4 months to fully resolve.
Anyone else notice how many more of these incorrect IRS notices are going out lately? My brother, my neighbor, and now seeing this post... seems like their systems are really messed up this year
I work in tax prep and we're definitely seeing an uptick. The IRS got a funding boost to go after unpaid taxes, but their systems are still outdated. They're basically casting a wider net with automated notices hoping to catch actual issues, but it means way more false positives.
I'm a little surprised no one's mentioned potential state tax implications. Depending on your state, they might have different rules about taxable scholarship income and different statutes of limitations. I found this out the hard way when my state came after me for unfiled returns even after the federal statute had passed. Also, if you're stressing about this, sometimes filing those old returns (if you have all the documentation) can provide peace of mind, even if you're likely in the clear. Just know that if you do file and end up owing, you'll have to pay the tax plus interest and penalties - so it's a personal decision about risk tolerance vs. peace of mind.
I didn't even think about state taxes! I was in Illinois for college. Do you know if they're more aggressive than the IRS about pursuing old unfiled returns?
Illinois actually follows the federal statutes of limitations pretty closely for most tax matters, generally 3 years from filing or due date (whichever is later). However, like the IRS, they technically have no time limit for unfiled returns. That said, Illinois typically receives information from the IRS and educational institutions, so if the IRS hasn't flagged your account, Illinois likely hasn't either. State tax authorities usually have even fewer resources than the IRS for pursuing older, smaller cases. If you haven't received notices from Illinois by now, it's even less likely they'll pursue this than the federal government would.
Quick question about this situation - I'm helping my younger brother who's in college now with a similar scholarship situation. If he exceeds the filing threshold for 2024, but my parents still claim him as a dependent, does he check the box that says "Someone can claim you as a dependent" when he files his own return?
Yes, he should check the box indicating that someone can claim him as a dependent when filing his own return. This is important because it affects his standard deduction amount and eligibility for certain credits. Being claimed as a dependent doesn't eliminate his obligation to file his own return if he meets the filing requirements (which for 2024, for dependents with only earned income, would be income exceeding $14,600). He'll need to report his taxable scholarship income (the portion exceeding qualified education expenses) as income on his return.
Gemma Andrews
Just be careful with these energy credits - make sure your door actually qualifies before claiming anything. The requirements changed for 2023. The door needs to meet Energy Star Most Efficient criteria now, not just regular Energy Star like before. Check your documentation from the manufacturer to confirm it meets the right standards.
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Rosie Harper
β’Wait, seriously? I thought any Energy Star certified door would qualify. Is there a way to check if my door meets this "Most Efficient" standard after the fact? The packaging is long gone.
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Gemma Andrews
β’Actually I need to correct myself - for exterior doors, you're right that Energy Star certification is still sufficient. The "Most Efficient" requirement applies to other categories like water heaters and HVAC. What did change is the maximum credit amount - it's now 30% of costs up to $250 for a single door (or up to $500 total if you replaced multiple doors). You should be able to find the Energy Star certification information on any documentation that came with the door or by looking up the model number on the manufacturer's website.
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Pedro Sawyer
Has anyone actually received this credit yet on their tax return? I claimed it last year for a new front door but my refund seems delayed compared to normal. Wondering if these energy credits are triggering extra review or something.
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Mae Bennett
β’I got mine processed without any delay. Make sure you filled out Form 5695 correctly - that's where you calculate the credit. Also, if you claimed other credits like solar or EV, those sometimes get additional scrutiny.
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