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With $405k income, I'd definitely get an accountant. I'm in a similar bracket and switched from TurboTax 3 years ago. My accountant found nearly $8k in tax savings my first year! Mostly through more aggressive but legitimate deductions and some restructuring of my investments. The key is finding someone who specializes in high-income professionals rather than just a general tax preparer.
That's impressive savings! Do you mind sharing what kinds of deductions they found that TurboTax missed? And approximately what you pay your accountant?
The biggest win was identifying that some of my investment advisory fees were deductible in a way I hadn't been taking advantage of. Also found some home office deductions related to my W-2 job during 2020-2021 that I qualified for but didn't know about. I pay about $850 annually for tax preparation and filing. But the real value comes from quarterly check-ins for tax planning - we make adjustments throughout the year instead of just at tax time. This costs about $1200 more annually, but the savings and peace of mind are worth it.
Unpopular opinion maybe but I make around $350k and still use TurboTax. Tried an accountant for two years and they literally saved me nothing beyond what I was already doing myself. Tax software has gotten really good. Unless you have a business, rental properties, or some complex situations, I don't see much benefit for W-2 employees even at higher incomes.
Agree 100%. I'm at $380k, all W-2 and investments like OP, and my accountant basically told me after 2 years that I didn't need him! Said TurboTax would do fine for my situation lol. Respectable honesty I guess?
Glad to hear I'm not alone! I appreciate the accountant who admits when they're not adding enough value. Most retirement accounts are pretty straightforward max contributions, and standard investment stuff isn't that complex. I think where accountants shine is with business ownership, real estate, or unusual situations like foreign income. For regular employees, even high-income ones, tax software covers most bases pretty effectively.
If your CP2000 involves investment income, make sure you're double-checking your 1099-Bs against what you reported! I got hit with a similar notice because my brokerage sent an updated 1099-B after I filed, and I had no idea. The IRS sees the newer version but you filed with the old numbers. Also, if they're partially right (like you mentioned you did mess something up), consider just paying the correct portion while contesting the incorrect part. That can show good faith and sometimes helps get things resolved faster.
That's actually exactly what's happening - it's investment income from a stock sale. How did you prove to them that you did report it correctly? Did you have to send in a specific form or just explain it in the response letter?
I sent them a copy of the original 1099-B I received (the one I used when filing), along with my Schedule D and Form 8949 that showed I had reported the transactions. Then I explained in my response letter exactly which line items were being questioned and where they could find those exact amounts on my return. The key was being super specific and making it extremely easy for them to verify what I was saying. I literally wrote things like "The $12,345 amount referenced in paragraph 2 of your notice can be found on line 3 of my Schedule D, which matches line 1 of Form 8949 as shown on the attached documents." I basically created a roadmap that connected their questions directly to my filing documentation. That approach worked well because it minimized the work they had to do to verify my explanation.
whatever you do DONT hire those tax resolution companies you see advertising on TV!! my brother paid one $3000 to handle his cp2000 and they literally just filed the same response he could have done himself. total ripoff
100% agree! Those companies are predatory. My colleague went with one of the big national firms and paid $2,500 for them to basically fill out a form response. The commercials make it sound like they have some special relationship with the IRS but they absolutely don't. If you do need professional help, look for a local CPA or Enrolled Agent who specializes in tax controversy. They'll charge a reasonable hourly rate instead of those massive upfront fees, and you'll get personalized help from someone who actually looks at your specific situation.
Thanks for the warning! I actually got a call from one of those companies right after I got my letter (no idea how they knew?) and they wanted $2,800 upfront. Felt super sketchy so I didn't go with them. Good to know my instincts were right!
As someone who prepares taxes professionally, I'd add that you might also qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit even with self-employment income, depending on your total income and other factors. This could potentially offset some of what you owe. Also important to note: if you genuinely never received a 1099 form, the delivery company might not have reported your income to the IRS (though they should have if it was over $600). This doesn't excuse you from filing, but it might mean the IRS hasn't flagged your account yet for non-filing.
Thanks for mentioning this! I definitely made under $10k for the year, so maybe I'd qualify for that credit? And you're right - I never got any forms from the company, so maybe they didn't report it. Would that make my penalties less severe?
You should definitely check if you qualify for the EITC. For 2023, a single filer with no children could qualify with income up to about $17,640, so you're well within that range. This could potentially give you a refundable credit of several hundred dollars. Regarding the unreported income, it's a double-edged sword. If they didn't report it, the IRS might not know you were supposed to file, which means they haven't been actively pursuing you for non-filing. However, you're still legally obligated to report all income regardless of whether you received a 1099. The safest approach is always to file and report everything accurately, even if it's late.
One thing nobody mentioned - if you do your delivery driving in a state with income tax, you'll need to file a state return too! I made this mistake and only filed federal after missing my taxes, then got a separate notice from my state tax agency for non-filing.
Definitely good to know. I'm in Texas so I think we don't have state income tax, but I'll double check to make sure I'm not missing anything else!
Here's what I'd do in your situation - file the extension ASAP, then file all your back tax returns first before filing 2024. I had to do this last year. File Form 4868 for the extension. Then gather up your documents for the prior years and file those returns. Even if you made very little, you should still file. For the years with stock losses, those can actually help you if documented properly since you can carry forward capital losses. Once your prior years are filed, THEN file your 2024 return and request a payment plan. The IRS is usually pretty reasonable if you're making an effort to comply. You can set up a plan online for up to 72 months.
That makes a lot of sense. For the prior years, should I try to file them all at once or do them one by one? And for the stock losses, do you know how many years I can carry those forward? I lost quite a bit in 2021-2022.
You can file them all at once - that's actually better since it shows you're making a comprehensive effort to get compliant. Just make sure each year is in its own separate envelope if mailing them. For capital losses, you can deduct up to $3,000 per year against ordinary income, and carry forward any excess losses indefinitely until they're used up. So those 2021-2022 losses could potentially offset your income for several years to come, which might really help with your current tax situation.
Let me save you some stress - file the extension but don't panic about an audit. The IRS is primarily focused on high-income taxpayers right now, not freelancers who owe $13k. The audit rate for self-employed people making under $100k is extremely low, like less than 0.4%. Just make sure you report all your Upwork income (they issue 1099s that the IRS gets copies of). Filing an extension is totally normal too - millions of people do it every year. As long as you're not hiding income or claiming crazy deductions, your audit risk is minimal.
This isn't entirely accurate advice. While audit rates are low for most people, failing to file returns for several years does significantly increase your chances of getting IRS attention, regardless of income level. The IRS does have automated systems that flag non-filers.
Ethan Wilson
You might just need to enter your prior year Roth IRA basis somewhere in the software. In H&R Block, go to the "Retirement and Investments" section, then "IRA, 401(k), or Other Retirement Plans" and look for a question about "prior Roth contributions" or "Roth IRA basis." Enter the total amount you've contributed to your Roth IRA in all previous years combined (not including 2024 contributions).
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NeonNova
ā¢Where exactly in H&R Block do you find this? I'm looking at that section right now and I don't see anything specific about "prior Roth contributions." Is it hidden in some submenu?
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Ethan Wilson
ā¢It's a bit buried in the interface. After you get to the "IRA, 401(k), or Other Retirement Plans" section, you need to click on the specific Roth IRA contribution entry. Then there should be an "Advanced" or "Additional Information" button or link. Click that and you'll see additional fields, including one for your previous years' contributions or basis amount. If you're using the desktop version rather than the online version, the navigation might be slightly different, but the concept is the same - look for an advanced or additional info section related to your Roth IRA entries.
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Yuki Tanaka
Something similar happened to me - the warning is likely just telling you that you should know your basis for future reference. For most people with Roth IRAs who haven't made withdrawals, it doesn't actually affect your tax return. H&R Block is just being extra cautious.
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Carmen Diaz
ā¢I've been using TaxAct for years and have never seen any warning about Roth IRA basis. I wonder if this is just an H&R Block thing or if I've been missing something important all along?
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