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Something else to check - did you get a confirmation when you made your payment? If you paid through the IRS Direct Pay or EFTPS, you should have received a confirmation number. You can log into those systems to verify the payment went through. I always save those confirmation numbers with my tax records just in case there's ever a question.

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Liam Murphy

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Yeah I did get a confirmation email from TurboTax when I made the payment, but it was just saying they submitted it - not that the IRS actually received it. Should I be getting something directly from the IRS too?

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Yes, you should have received a confirmation directly from the payment processor the IRS uses, not just from TurboTax. When you pay through TurboTax, they typically redirect you to an IRS-authorized payment processor, which should provide its own confirmation number. I'd recommend logging into your TurboTax account and checking the payment details section. There should be information about how your payment was processed and possibly a second confirmation number from the actual payment processor. If you can't find this, you might want to contact TurboTax support to get the payment confirmation details.

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I'm in the same situation and what I've learned is that the IRS doesn't send "approved" notices for returns where you owe money - they only tell you if something's wrong. For peace of mind, I create an account on IRS.gov every year to check my account transcript after filing. It shows all transactions including when they process your return and apply your payment. Just look for transaction code 150 (tax return filed) and code 570 (payment applied). Takes about 3 weeks after filing to show up usually.

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This is the right answer. I check my transcript every year. The transaction codes tell you everything - way more reliable than calling or using Where's My Refund.

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Thanks! Yeah I've found the transcript to be the most reliable source of information. The IRS website isn't the most user-friendly, but once you learn how to read the transaction codes, it's actually pretty straightforward. For anyone looking for this information, you want the "Account Transcript" specifically, not the "Return Transcript" - they're different documents in the IRS system.

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Mei Wong

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Just wanted to add something important about the refund time limit that hasn't been mentioned yet. You only have 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. So for 2021 taxes, you have until April 2025 to file and still get your refund. For 2020, the deadline is April 2024 (which has passed), BUT remember 2020 had special COVID extensions, so that deadline was actually May 17, 2024. If you missed that, unfortunately that refund is gone. 2022 and 2023 are still well within the window. Don't delay any further though - those refunds are YOUR money that was withheld from your paychecks!

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Ethan Davis

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Oh no, I might have missed the deadline for 2020 then! Does the IRS ever make exceptions for people who didn't know about the 3-year rule? And just to clarify, even if I can't get a refund for the older years, I should still file those returns anyway, right?

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Mei Wong

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Unfortunately, the IRS is very strict about the 3-year refund statute and doesn't make exceptions even if you didn't know about the rule. It's set by law, not IRS policy, so they can't bend it. Yes, you should still file all unfiled returns even if you can't get the refund anymore. This closes your file with the IRS and prevents future issues. While you won't get money back for those older years, filing completes your tax record and can help with things like loan applications, government benefits, or any situation where tax return information is needed. Better to have everything clean and complete than leave those old years hanging.

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Has anyone used the Free File Fillable Forms on the IRS website for past year returns? I'm in a similar situation (didn't file 2022 or 2023) but I'm trying to avoid paying for software if possible.

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PixelWarrior

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Free File Fillable Forms only work for the current tax year (so right now, only 2024). For prior years, you need to download the specific forms for those tax years from the IRS website and mail them in. I did this last year for my 2021 and 2022 returns. You can still use free tax software though! Most of the major companies (TurboTax, H&R Block, TaxSlayer) offer access to prior year returns on their websites. The catch is that you can prepare them for free, but they usually charge to file them. Since you have to mail prior year returns anyway, you can just print them out and mail them yourself without paying.

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Everyone's focused on the tax rates, but don't forget about other advantages of S-corps. The ability to minimize self-employment taxes by taking a reasonable salary plus distributions is huge. I save about $7,500 annually just from properly structuring my compensation this way compared to when I was a sole proprietor. Also, with an S-corp you can still contribute to a Solo 401k based on your salary, which helps reduce your taxable income significantly. The C-corp has other issues like accumulated earnings tax if you try to keep too much money in the business.

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Luca Russo

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What's a good ratio of salary to distributions that won't trigger IRS concerns? I've heard different things from different sources.

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There's no fixed percentage that's universally "safe" as the IRS looks at what's reasonable for your industry, experience, and business circumstances. A common approach is researching what comparable positions in your industry would pay and documenting that research. For many service businesses, I've seen recommendations ranging from 50-70% of profits as salary being reasonable, but it varies widely. Healthcare professionals often need higher salary percentages while capital-intensive businesses might justify lower percentages. The key is having solid documentation for whatever number you choose.

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Andre Moreau

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As a point of clarification, the 12% bracket you mentioned would only apply to a portion of your income anyway. Tax brackets are marginal, so you're not paying one single rate on all income. With your current W2 of 72k plus business income of 50-65k, you'd be well into the 22% bracket regardless of how you structure things.

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Zoe Stavros

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This! So many people don't understand marginal tax rates and make decisions based on completely wrong assumptions. OP needs to look at effective tax rate across all income, not just the highest bracket they hit.

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Niko Ramsey

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I think your boss is trying to avoid paying employer taxes. When he pays you in cash and doesn't report it, he's not paying his share of Social Security and Medicare taxes. Just to be clear - if you were actually an employee (not a contractor), your boss should have been giving you a W-2, not a 1099. The difference matters because: - W-2: Employer pays half of Social Security/Medicare taxes - 1099: You pay ALL Social Security/Medicare taxes yourself (self-employment tax) You might want to look at Form SS-8 to determine if you should have been classified as an employee rather than a contractor. If you were misclassified, the IRS can go after your employer for their share of taxes.

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Cole Roush

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Thanks for bringing this up - I honestly wasn't sure if I should have been getting a W-2 or 1099. My job involves framing houses and doing general construction work. I use their tools, work on their schedule, and they tell me exactly what to do and how to do it. Does that sound more like an employee situation?

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Niko Ramsey

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Based on what you've described, you sound much more like an employee than an independent contractor. The key factors the IRS looks at include: who controls when and how you work, who provides tools and equipment, how you're paid (regular wages vs. project-based), and whether the work is a key part of the business. Using their tools, working on their schedule, and having them direct your work are all strong indicators of employee status. Construction workers doing the core work of a construction company are typically employees unless there's a specific arrangement that gives the worker significant independence.

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Similar thing happened to me last year. My side gig didn't send a 1099 and kept putting me off. Here's what I did: 1. Filed my taxes anyway using my own records of what I earned (cash payment records + deposit slips) 2. Reported the income on Schedule C 3. Kept really good documentation of my attempts to get the 1099 (emails, texts, etc) 4. Submitted Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" since I suspected I was misclassified The biggest thing is don't wait to file! The April deadline (or October with extension) is for YOU, not your employer. Their failure to provide docs doesn't extend your filing deadline.

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Jabari-Jo

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Did you run into any issues with the IRS after filing this way? I'm in a similar situation and worried they'll come after me for something that wasn't my fault.

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Logan Scott

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider setting up an LLC or S-Corp once you're established! I waited two years before doing this and regret it. As an S-Corp, you can pay yourself a reasonable salary and take the rest as distributions, which aren't subject to self-employment tax. Saved me about $7,500 last year alone. Talk to a CPA about when this makes sense for you - usually around $80-100k is when the savings outweigh the extra paperwork and fees.

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Chloe Green

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Doesn't setting up an S-Corp mean you have to run payroll and deal with a bunch of extra filings though? Is it really worth the hassle?

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Logan Scott

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Yes, with an S-Corp you do need to run payroll (even if it's just for yourself) and there are additional tax forms and requirements. You'll need to file Form 1120-S for the corporation, issue yourself a W-2, and potentially make quarterly payroll tax deposits. The breakeven point varies by situation, but generally if you're making over $80-100K in profit, the self-employment tax savings usually outweigh the extra costs and hassle. I pay about $800/year for payroll services and additional accounting fees, but save around $7,500 in taxes. For me, it's definitely worth it, but everyone's situation is different. It's definitely something to consider once your business is stable, not necessarily right away.

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Lucas Adams

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Quick tip if you're just starting out - open a separate checking account for your business transactions right away! I mixed personal and business in the same account my first year and tax time was a complete nightmare trying to sort it all out.

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Harper Hill

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Yessss! This saved me so much trouble. And get a separate credit card for business expenses too. Makes everything so much cleaner come tax time.

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Lucas Adams

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Thanks for the credit card tip! I actually have a dedicated business credit card now too, and it makes categorizing expenses so much easier. Most cards even give you year-end summaries by category which is super helpful for Schedule C. Plus you can often get better rewards on business cards for things like office supplies or internet services.

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