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Just wanted to point out that there's an important distinction between "filing" your taxes and "paying" your taxes. Even though the filing deadline was extended to May 17, 2021, the deadline for contributions to IRAs for the 2020 tax year remained April 15, 2021. The IRS explicitly stated this in their announcements about the extended filing season. Unfortunately, many people missed this detail.
So does this mean I definitely have to file an amended return? I'm still waiting on my refund to come through and I'm worried this is going to create a huge mess.
Yes, you'll need to file an amended return since you claimed a deduction you weren't eligible for. Form 1040-X is what you'll need to submit. The sooner you do this, the better, as penalties and interest can accrue on any additional tax you end up owing. I would recommend not waiting for your original refund to come through before filing the amendment. The IRS is experiencing significant delays this year, and the longer you wait, the more complicated it could become. If your original refund does arrive, you'll likely need to return some portion of it when your amended return is processed.
Have you considered calling your IRA custodian directly? Sometimes they can help clarify whether you might qualify for any exceptions. For example, if you're self-employed or had certain circumstances, there might be alternatives. Worth a phone call before you go through the whole amended return process.
I'm a songwriter with royalties from both streaming and licensing. In my experience, ASCAP and BMI royalties are taxable when they're distributed to you (even if you don't cash the check), while direct licensing royalties follow your distributor's terms. Worth noting that if you're making significant income from royalties, you might need to be making quarterly estimated tax payments. I got hit with a penalty my first year because I didn't realize this!
Thanks for mentioning quarterly payments - I hadn't considered that! How do you determine how much to pay each quarter if your royalty income fluctuates a lot? My streaming numbers can vary wildly month to month.
Calculating quarterly payments with fluctuating royalty income can be tricky. The safest approach is using the "safe harbor" provision - if you pay at least 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face penalties even if you end up owing more. For highly variable income, another option is the "annualized income" method where you calculate each quarterly payment based on your actual income for that period. It's more work but more accurate if your income varies significantly throughout the year. I use a spreadsheet to track monthly income and project my quarterly obligations.
Have any other musicians here tried putting these royalties into an LLC or S-Corp to potentially defer some income? I'm just starting to make decent streaming revenue and wondering if changing my business structure might help with tax planning.
An LLC doesn't change the tax timing - it's still reported on your personal return unless you elect S-Corp status. With an S-Corp, you can pay yourself a reasonable salary and take distributions, but royalty income specifically has some complicated rules. I found that out the hard way. You should really talk to an accountant who specializes in entertainment income because the self-employment tax savings could be substantial depending on your income level, but there are costs to maintaining the corporate structure too.
I filed for ERTC for my farm last year and got about $43,000 back legitimately. My suggestion is to avoid any company that: 1) Takes a percentage commission 2) Guarantees you qualify before seeing your records 3) Doesn't ask detailed questions about your specific situation The key for us was documenting the specific government orders that affected our operation. We had to restrict how many workers could be in certain buildings and vehicles due to social distancing requirements, which significantly impacted our efficiency.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you file the amended 941-X forms yourself or use an accountant? Did the IRS contact you for additional information after you filed?
I used our regular farm accountant to file the 941-X forms. I wouldn't recommend trying to do it yourself unless you're very familiar with payroll tax filings - there are some tricky calculations involved. The IRS did contact us about 4 months after filing for additional documentation. They specifically wanted proof of the government orders we were subject to and documentation showing how those orders impacted our operations. We had prepared for this and had saved all the relevant county health department orders plus our own written policies we implemented in response. They accepted our documentation without issue and processed the refund about 2 months later.
Quick question for anyone - has anyone seen an increase in audits for farms claiming ERTC? My neighbor got an audit notice after claiming about $80k in credits and now I'm nervous about even looking into this.
Just want to add some actual data from my experience as a tax preparer. The audit rates really depend on specific items on your return, not just income. Things that tend to increase scrutiny: 1) Unusually large charitable donations relative to income 2) Home office deductions that seem disproportionate 3) Round numbers for everything (suggests estimation not actual records) 4) Hobby losses claimed as business losses year after year 5) Mismatch between reported income and what payers reported to IRS If you avoid these issues and keep good documentation, your audit risk is minimal even with self-employment income.
I've heard that taking the EIC (Earned Income Credit) increases audit risk substantially. Is that true or just another tax myth? I qualify but I'm hesitant to claim it.
The EIC does have a somewhat higher audit rate, but it's still quite low overall. The IRS typically focuses on very specific EIC issues like claiming children who don't meet residency requirements or reporting self-employment income without documentation. If you legitimately qualify and have documentation to support your claim (proof of income, relationship to any qualifying children, etc.), you should absolutely claim it. The credit was designed to help working people, and leaving money on the table because of audit fears means the system isn't serving its purpose. Just make sure your claim is accurate and you can substantiate it if asked.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - the IRS audit rate has been dropping for years because of budget cuts. They're mostly focused on high-income earners ($500k+) and blatant red flags now. My accountant told me they're primarily using automated matching systems rather than human auditors for most income levels now. So if your W2s and 1099s match what you report, and your deductions aren't wildly out of line with your profession, you're probably not on their radar.
This matches what my CPA told me too. She said most "audits" for regular people are just automated letters asking you to verify specific items, not the full-blown audits we fear with agents combing through every receipt. Unless you're super wealthy or doing something obviously suspicious, it's usually just computer verification.
Monique Byrd
Have you checked that the account info you provided is correct? My friend's refund was delayed because she mistyped one digit in her direct deposit account number. When she finally called the IRS (after many attempts), they told her the deposit was rejected and they were going to mail a check instead, which added another 3 weeks. Double check your banking details on your return!
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Ellie Perry
ā¢I just checked my tax return copy and all my banking info looks correct. I've been using the same account for direct deposits from the IRS for the past 3 tax seasons without issues. The status on the Where's My Refund tool specifically says "refund approved" with the May 3 date, not that there are any problems with the deposit info. Is it possible they're just extra backed up this year? It seems weird that they'd approve it but then wait so long to actually send the money.
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Monique Byrd
ā¢Yes, they are definitely more backed up this year than usual. I've been preparing taxes for family members for years, and I've noticed much longer processing times this season. The IRS has been dealing with staffing shortages and outdated computer systems. When they approve a refund but schedule it for weeks later, it's often because they're spreading out the payment processing to manage their workflow. Think of it as them putting you in a payment queue based on various factors including filing date, complexity, and even the amount of the refund.
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Jackie Martinez
Has anyone tried requesting a taxpayer advocate? If you're experiencing financial hardship because of the delay (like potential eviction, utility shutoff, medical needs), you might qualify for assistance through the Taxpayer Advocate Service. They can sometimes help expedite refunds in genuine hardship cases.
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Lia Quinn
ā¢I tried contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service last month for a similar issue. Unfortunately, they're also extremely backed up and told me they're only taking the most severe hardship cases right now. They said unless I was facing immediate eviction or had medical treatments I couldn't receive without the money, they couldn't help with "routine" refund delays.
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