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Just to add another perspective on QBI - remember that if your taxable income is below the thresholds mentioned above, the calculation becomes MUCH simpler. You just take 20% of your qualified business income without worrying about all the W-2 wage limitations or specified service business rules. Also, many states don't conform to the federal QBI deduction rules, so don't assume you get the same benefit on your state taxes. Here in California, for example, we don't get the QBI deduction at all on our state returns.

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Ana Rusula

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What about retirement contributions? Do those reduce your qualified business income? I contribute to a SEP IRA and I'm wondering if that affects my QBI calculation.

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Retirement contributions like SEP IRA, Solo 401(k), or SIMPLE IRA contributions do not directly reduce your QBI. These deductions are taken "above the line" on your personal tax return, but QBI is calculated at the business level before these personal deductions. However, retirement contributions do lower your overall taxable income, which can be beneficial if you're near the QBI phase-out thresholds. By reducing your taxable income through retirement contributions, you might avoid or reduce the phase-out limitations on your QBI deduction, potentially making more of your business income eligible for the full 20% deduction.

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Fidel Carson

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Anyone else confused about how to handle the QBI deduction with multiple businesses? I have a consulting LLC (which is an SSTB) and a separate rental property LLC. Do I aggregate them or keep them separate for QBI? Using TurboTax and it's super unclear.

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Generally, you'd want to keep them separate since the SSTB limitations would only apply to your consulting business. If you aggregated them, your rental income might get caught in the SSTB limitations. The regulations allow aggregation in certain cases but don't require it.

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Ellie Kim

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22 Make sure you're keeping ALL your receipts for anything remotely related to your business! I learned the hard way that you can deduct things like: - Portion of internet/phone if used for business - Home office space if used regularly and exclusively for business - Shipping materials - Website hosting - Advertising costs Also track mileage if you're driving to post office or buy supplies. The IRS loves documentation so save everything!

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Ellie Kim

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17 Quick question - for the home office deduction, does it matter if the space is also sometimes used for other things? Like, I have a desk where I package all my items, but sometimes my kids do homework there too.

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Ellie Kim

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22 For the home office deduction, the space needs to be used "regularly and exclusively" for business purposes to qualify. If your kids are doing homework at the same desk, unfortunately that area wouldn't qualify for the deduction since it's not exclusively business use. However, you might be able to claim a portion of your utilities, internet, and phone as business expenses based on the percentage used for business activities without taking the formal home office deduction. Just make sure you can reasonably justify the business percentage you're claiming if ever questioned.

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Ellie Kim

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2 anyone know if theres a minimum amount before u need to report this kinda stuff? like what if u only made like $500 selling things online? do u still gotta do all this tax stuff??

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Ellie Kim

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5 Technically, the IRS requires you to report ALL income, regardless of the amount. There's no minimum threshold for self-employment income. If you earned $500 from your side business, you should report it. That said, self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) only kicks in when your net earnings are $400 or more. But income tax could still apply to amounts less than that, depending on your overall tax situation.

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Miguel Silva

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One thing no one's mentioned yet - your brother should check if he's even required to file! The filing threshold depends on whether he's claimed as a dependent on someone else's return. If your parents claim him as a dependent and he only earned $7,500 with no other income types, he might not be legally required to file. But if he had federal taxes withheld from his paychecks, he should still file to get that money back.

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GalacticGuru

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Thank you for bringing this up! My parents do still claim him as a dependent. But he definitely had taxes taken out of his checks - I remember him complaining about it lol. So even if he's not required to file, he'd basically be giving free money to the government by not filing, right?

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Miguel Silva

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Exactly right! Even if he's not legally required to file, any federal income tax withheld from his paychecks is essentially an interest-free loan to the government. Filing would get that money returned to him. At $7,500 income as a dependent, he'd likely get most or all of his federal withholding back as a refund. Many young workers don't realize they're leaving hundreds of dollars on the table by not filing. Plus, getting into the habit of filing annually is a good practice for his financial future.

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Just to add something important - if your brother is expecting a refund (which is likely), there's actually NO PENALTY for filing late! The IRS only penalizes people who owe money and file late. He has 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. So for 2022 taxes, he has until April 2026 to file and still get his money. For 2023 taxes, he'll have until April 2027.

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Is this really true? So if I'm pretty sure I'm getting a refund, I can just file whenever I want with no consequences? That seems too good to be true.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - keep an eye on the date on that second notice. The IRS often sends out notices that were generated BEFORE they processed your payment. So check the date on the notice - it might have been created/mailed before your payment was fully processed, even though you received it afterward. Also, did you make the payment directly to the specific tax year and form? Sometimes people just make a general payment and it doesn't get applied correctly.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I checked and the second notice is dated about 3 weeks after my payment was processed. So unfortunately it's not just a timing issue. And yes, I specifically selected tax year 2018 Form 1040 when making the payment online - I was very careful about that since I didn't want any mix-ups. I think what might have happened is that the payment went through but wasn't applied to the specific CP22A balance. Maybe it was applied to the original tax liability but not to the additional assessment? The whole thing is so confusing and there's no way to check exactly where the payment was applied online.

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That's definitely more concerning then. You're probably right about the payment being misapplied within the same tax year. The IRS has different "buckets" for different types of assessments, even within the same tax year. When you do manage to speak with someone (either through regular calls or using one of the services mentioned above), specifically ask them to check ALL modules for tax year 2018 to locate your payment. Make sure they know it was in response to a CP22A so they can properly apply it to the additional assessment rather than just the original tax liability. Be sure to have your payment confirmation number handy when you call. That's the fastest way for them to trace where your money actually went in their system.

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Zane Gray

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Has anyone mentioned checking your tax transcript? You can get it online through the IRS website and it sometimes shows more details than the account summary. It might show your payment and where it was applied.

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This is great advice. The transcript will show all transactions for the tax year including payments, assessments, penalties, and interest calculations. Look for transaction code 670 which indicates a payment was received and applied. The date and amount should match your payment.

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Former tax professional here. The ERC situation is a mess right now because so many businesses were pushed into filing by these aggressive firms. Here's what I'm seeing with clients: 1) Recovery startups are actually LESS likely to be scrutinized than established businesses claiming substantial shutdowns, mainly because your eligibility rules were more straightforward. 2) Documentation is absolutely critical. Keep everything related to your business formation, all employee records, and anything demonstrating legitimate business activities during your claim period. 3) The percentage fee structure (15% in your case) is a red flag to the IRS, as legitimate tax firms typically charge flat fees based on work performed. The IRS recently announced they're offering a voluntary disclosure program for businesses to repay questionable ERC claims with reduced penalties. Might be worth investigating if you're truly concerned about your claim's legitimacy.

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Carmen Diaz

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Thanks for this insider perspective. So if I understand correctly, as a genuine recovery startup (formed after Feb 2020), I might actually be at lower risk than established businesses? That's somewhat reassuring. About the voluntary disclosure program - would using that be essentially admitting I did something wrong? I believe my claim was legitimate based on the recovery startup provisions, but now I'm second-guessing everything because of the company I used.

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Yes, recovery startups generally face less scrutiny because your eligibility was based on clear criteria (formation date, gross receipts under the threshold) rather than the more subjective "partial shutdown" or "significant decline in gross receipts" tests that established businesses had to meet. The voluntary disclosure program isn't necessarily an admission of wrongdoing - it's designed for businesses who, after review, believe their claim may not fully qualify. If you believe your claim as a recovery startup was legitimate, there's likely no need to use this program. Instead, focus on organizing your documentation. Make sure you have clear records showing: 1) formation after February 15, 2020, 2) evidence of actual business operations (not just a paper entity), 3) documentation of qualified wages paid, and 4) gross receipts under the threshold. The IRS is primarily targeting obviously fraudulent claims first, particularly those made by established businesses using aggressive interpretations of the shutdown provisions.

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Has anyone considered the tax implications if the IRS does demand repayment? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if I'd need to amend returns from the year I received the credit.

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If the IRS disallows your ERC, you'll likely need to file amended returns for the year(s) affected. The wages you used for ERC would become fully deductible again, which could actually reduce your taxable income for that year. So there's potentially a small silver lining if you have to repay.

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