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Lily Young

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Has anyone used the IRS online payment system when filing Form 8832? There's a user fee for late elections if you request a private letter ruling, but the IRS website is so confusing about how to actually pay it.

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I had to do this for a late election relief request. You need to use the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS) at eftps.gov - but it takes like 5-7 business days to get enrolled if you haven't used it before. Plan ahead! The user fee was $6,500 for our ruling request which was painful but worth it to fix our classification mess.

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I went through this exact same situation with my LLC about 6 months ago! At $85,000 projected income, you'll definitely want to run the numbers carefully before electing corporate treatment. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet comparing the tax scenarios. As a single-member LLC (assuming that's your situation), you'd pay self-employment tax on the full $85K under default treatment. But with corporate election, you'd face potential double taxation if you take distributions. The sweet spot for corporate treatment is usually when you can justify a reasonable salary (subject to payroll taxes) that's lower than your total profit, leaving the remainder as retained earnings taxed at corporate rates. But at $85K, this might not provide much benefit. Also, don't forget about state considerations - some states have minimum franchise taxes for corporations that could eat into any federal tax savings. I'd strongly recommend running the actual numbers with a tax pro before making the election, especially since you can't easily reverse it once made. The 75-day window Keith mentioned is crucial - mark your calendar! And if you do elect corporate treatment, make sure you're prepared for the additional compliance requirements like corporate tax returns and payroll processing.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation with a new LLC and was leaning toward corporate election, but your point about the $85K income level is making me reconsider. Could you share more details about how you structured that spreadsheet comparison? I'm trying to figure out what salary would be "reasonable" if I did elect corporate treatment - is there a general rule of thumb for that, or does it vary by industry? Also, when you mention state franchise taxes, are we talking about significant amounts that could wipe out federal savings?

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Stupid question maybe, but what exactly is backup withholding and how much do they take? I think I might have this issue too but never understood what it actually means.

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Caden Turner

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Backup withholding is when financial institutions are required to withhold 24% of certain types of payments made to you (like interest, dividends, and certain other payments) and send it directly to the IRS. This happens when there's a mismatch in your tax ID/SSN or when you've underreported interest and dividend income. It's a pretty significant amount at 24%, which is why it's important to respond to B notices quickly. The withholding isn't a penalty itself, but rather a way for the IRS to ensure they receive tax payments when there's some issue with reporting.

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ShadowHunter

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Just wanted to add that timing is really important with B notices. The IRS gives banks specific instructions about when to start backup withholding, and while some banks are lenient (like in your case), others are very strict about the deadlines. Since you mentioned wanting to open a high-yield savings account soon, I'd recommend getting this fully resolved before you apply. Some banks will actually check if you have any outstanding B notice issues when you open new accounts, and having an unresolved notice could complicate the process. Also, make sure when you fill out the W9 that you include a brief note explaining that the SSN was corrected in your account on [date] and that you're responding to ensure proper tax reporting. This gives the bank's tax department context about why there was a delay in your response.

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This is really helpful advice about timing! I didn't realize that some banks check for outstanding B notice issues when opening new accounts. That definitely makes me want to get this resolved ASAP before applying for that high-yield savings account. The note idea is great too - I'll make sure to include the date when I originally corrected my SSN in person so they understand the timeline. Do you think I should also mention that I called and confirmed no backup withholding is currently active on my account? Or would that just complicate things?

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Aaron Boston

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - have you looked into getting certified in specialized care areas? I got certified in dementia care and diabetes management, which allowed me to charge $7-10 more per hour than the standard caregiver rate. My clients don't mind paying more because they're getting specialized knowledge, and it helps offset the tax burden.

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Where did you get those certifications? Are they expensive? I've been thinking about specializing too.

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Aaron Boston

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I got my dementia care certification through the Alzheimer's Association - they have a program called essentiALZ that costs around $55. For diabetes management, I took a course through my local community college that was about $200. Both were totally worth it and tax deductible as professional education expenses. There are also certifications for wound care, hospice support, and medication management that can command higher rates. Most take just 20-40 hours to complete, and clients with those specific needs are usually willing to pay premium rates for properly certified caregivers.

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Darcy Moore

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As someone who's been doing this for a few years, I totally feel your pain about the competitive pricing issue! One strategy that really helped me was creating a simple one-page document explaining the value of working with a legitimate, insured caregiver. I highlight things like background checks, bonding, proper training documentation, and the fact that their payments are legitimate tax deductions for them if they're paying for a parent's care. I also started offering packages - like a "peace of mind" rate that includes liability insurance coverage and guaranteed availability during emergencies. Sometimes framing it as premium service rather than just "more expensive because of taxes" helps clients understand the value proposition. Another thing - make sure you're maximizing your health insurance deduction if you're paying for your own coverage. As self-employed, you can deduct 100% of health insurance premiums for yourself and your family, which can be substantial savings that help offset those brutal self-employment taxes.

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Yara Sayegh

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly detailed discussion! I'm in almost the exact same situation as @LunarLegend - been holding stocks for a few years but never really understood the tax implications beyond "don't report unless you sell." Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening. I had no idea that dividend reinvestment still counts as taxable income even when you never see cash. I just spent the last hour going through my Schwab account after seeing all the advice here, and sure enough, I found dividend payments from an S&P 500 ETF that I completely forgot about. The part about checking transaction history for terms like "DRIP" was especially helpful - that's exactly how I found mine. I also discovered that Schwab has a really clear tax documents section that I never knew existed. One question for the group: if I find these dividend payments now but already filed my taxes a few weeks ago without reporting them, what's the best way to correct this? Should I file an amended return immediately, or wait to see if the IRS contacts me first? Thanks again to everyone sharing their experiences - this kind of practical advice is exactly what newcomers like me need to avoid costly mistakes!

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Miguel Diaz

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Welcome to the community! You should definitely file an amended return (Form 1040X) as soon as possible rather than waiting for the IRS to contact you. It shows good faith effort to correct the mistake, and you'll avoid potential penalties and interest that accrue while waiting. The IRS typically has up to 3 years to audit returns, but they often catch missing 1099-DIV forms much sooner since they receive copies from brokerages. Filing the amendment proactively is always better than waiting for them to find the discrepancy. When you file the 1040X, you'll just need to include the dividend income you missed and pay any additional tax owed. Most tax software can help you prepare the amended return, or you can work with a tax preparer if the numbers get confusing. The process is pretty straightforward for simple dividend additions like this. Great job catching this now - it shows you're taking responsibility for understanding your tax obligations as an investor!

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As a newcomer to this community and investing in general, I want to echo what others have said about checking your brokerage account thoroughly! I just went through this exact situation last month. I had been holding some index funds for about 18 months and assumed since I never sold anything, there was nothing to report. But after reading similar discussions online, I logged into my Vanguard account and discovered I had received over $200 in dividends that were automatically reinvested throughout the year. The tricky part was that these dividends showed up in different places depending on the investment type. My total stock market index fund dividends appeared in one section, while dividends from an international fund appeared separately. I had to look at both the "Transaction History" and the "Tax Center" to get the complete picture. For anyone in a similar situation - don't just look for a single 1099-DIV form. Some brokerages break them down by fund or account type, so you might have multiple forms. Also, the dividend amounts might seem small individually (like $15-30 per quarter), but they definitely add up over the course of a year and need to be reported as income. The good news is that once you know what to look for, it becomes much easier to track going forward. I've now set up email alerts for all dividend payments so I don't miss anything for next year's filing!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance newcomers like me need! I really appreciate you breaking down how different investment types can show dividends in different sections of the same brokerage account. That's something I never would have thought to check. Your point about setting up email alerts is brilliant - I'm definitely going to do that after I get through this year's tax situation. It's amazing how these "small" quarterly payments can really add up over time, and you're right that they all need to be reported even when they seem insignificant individually. I'm curious - when you found those dividends from multiple funds, did you have to report them separately on your tax return, or do they all get combined into one total dividend income amount? I'm trying to understand if having dividends from different types of funds (domestic vs international indexes) creates any additional complexity for reporting purposes. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helping me understand what I need to look for in my own accounts!

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Khalid Howes

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Don't forget you can also deduct equipment you buy for the team if it's not reimb

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Ben Cooper

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Doesn't the equipment need to be donated to the organization though? Like if you keep the whistle, clipboard, etc. can you still deduct those?

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Great question! I've been in a similar situation volunteering with youth basketball. One thing that really helped me was keeping a detailed log from day one - not just mileage, but also dates, times, and purposes of each trip. The IRS can be pretty strict about documentation for volunteer deductions. Also worth noting that if you use your personal vehicle for volunteer work, make sure you're not double-dipping by claiming both the charitable mileage rate AND actual gas expenses - it's one or the other. The standard rate often works out better anyway since it covers wear and tear on your vehicle too. Have you checked if your league provides any documentation at year-end? Some organizations will send volunteers a summary letter acknowledging their service and expenses, which can be helpful for your records.

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Dylan Fisher

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That's really helpful advice about the documentation! I'm new to volunteering and tax deductions, so I appreciate the tip about keeping detailed logs from the start. Quick question - when you mention the organization providing a summary letter, is that something they're required to do or just something nice organizations offer? I want to make sure I'm not missing out on documentation I should be requesting.

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