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One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you keep VERY detailed records of all your recharacterizations and conversions. I got audited last year specifically on IRA transactions, and without my documentation showing the exact dates and amounts, it would have been a nightmare. For the original poster, make sure you document: 1. Your original $6,900 Roth contribution date 2. The recharacterization date and total amount ($12.7K) 3. Your new Traditional contribution ($7,500) 4. The conversion back to Roth This paper trail will be crucial if questions ever come up years later.
How long should we keep these records for? And what specific documents should I be saving - just the year-end statements or something more detailed?
You should keep these records for at least 7 years, but honestly, for retirement account transactions, I recommend keeping them indefinitely. I had to reference a recharacterization from 9 years ago during my audit! As for what to keep, don't just save year-end statements. Save the confirmation receipts for each transaction (contribution, recharacterization, conversion), any 1099-R forms, and your amended tax returns. If you received any letters from your IRA custodian about the recharacterization, keep those too. The more documentation you have, the easier it will be to explain these complex transactions if you're ever questioned.
Something to be aware of - the recharacterization makes it look like you never contributed to the Roth in the first place, but your 2024 conversion of $7,500 from Traditional to Roth IS reportable on your 2024 taxes. You'll get another 1099-R for that. And don't forget about Form 8606 for the Traditional IRA contribution. It's super confusing but critical to track the non-deductible contributions if you're over the income limit!
Why do you need Form 8606 if you immediately convert the Traditional IRA to Roth? Doesn't that make the whole thing moot since the money doesn't stay in the Traditional IRA?
You still need Form 8606 even if you convert immediately because it tracks the basis in your Traditional IRA. Without it, the IRS assumes your entire Traditional IRA balance is pre-tax money, so when you convert to Roth, they'll tax the full amount. Form 8606 tells them "hey, this $7,500 was already taxed money (non-deductible contribution), so don't tax it again during the conversion." It's basically protecting you from double taxation on that money.
in the same boat rn... verified 3 weeks ago still waiting. this whole process is a joke fr fr š¤”
Good luck tomorrow! I just went through this last week. Definitely bring passport or driver's license, Social Security card, and all your tax docs (W-2s, 1099s, etc). Also bring a recent utility bill or bank statement for address verification - they asked me for that too. The whole appointment took about 30 minutes and they were actually pretty nice about it. Just be patient with the timeline after - mine took about 7 weeks but worth the wait!
good to know! ill keep checking š
The IRS transcript can definitely be confusing at first glance! Just to add some context to what others have said - that $2,259 credit (Code 766) might be the Child Tax Credit or Additional Child Tax Credit since you filed HOH with 3 exemptions. The combination of your EIC ($6,164) plus that additional credit ($2,259) minus your self-employment tax ($2,543) gives you that sweet $5,880 refund. Since your processing date was March 27th and credits posted April 15th, your refund should have been issued shortly after. Have you received it yet or are you still waiting?
My accountant charges me $275/hr and I've spent over $800 just trying to understand this exact issue lol. One tip that helped me: create a spreadsheet comparing your gross receipts (line 1a) all the way down to ordinary business income (line 21) for the last few years. I did this and finally could see exactly which expenses were causing the biggest differences between total income and ordinary business income. Gave me a much clearer picture of my business finances and helped me explain it to my partners.
As someone who went through this same confusion when I first started my S Corp, let me add another perspective. The key thing to remember is that the 1120-S is really just an informational return - the actual taxation happens on your personal return through the K-1. Here's what helped me understand it: Think of "total income" as everything your business brought in the door, while "ordinary business income" is what's left after you pay for the cost of running the business. The ordinary business income is what actually matters for your taxes because that's what flows through to your Schedule K-1. For the "how much does your business make" question, I've learned to be specific: "We did $X in revenue last year with $Y in profit." This way you're not misleading anyone, and it shows you understand your financials. Banks especially appreciate when you can speak to both numbers clearly. One more tip: Keep a simple one-page summary that shows both figures with a brief explanation of the major expense categories that bridge the gap. It's been super helpful when I need to explain my business performance quickly to lenders, partners, or even family members who ask how the business is doing.
This is really helpful advice! I like the idea of keeping a one-page summary - that would definitely save me from stumbling through explanations every time someone asks about my business performance. Do you have any suggestions for what expense categories to highlight on that summary? I'm thinking maybe cost of goods sold, payroll, and office expenses as the main buckets, but I'm not sure if there are other major ones that typically make up the difference between total income and ordinary business income.
Aisha Abdullah
Check if you claimed any credits or deductions. That usually triggers manual review tbh
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Diego Rojas
ā¢yeah i claimed the home heating credit maybe thats why
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Aisha Abdullah
ā¢yep that'll do it! those always get flagged for review
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Miguel Herrera
I went through this exact same thing last year with Michigan! The "completed" but "under manual review" status is super confusing - basically it means they received and processed your return through their initial systems, but something triggered an additional human review step. In my case, it was also a credit claim (earned income credit) that flagged it. Took about 4-5 weeks total from the date I first saw that message. The waiting is honestly the worst part because there's literally nothing you can do except wait for them to either mail you requesting more info or approve it. One thing that helped me was checking the status every Friday - I noticed they tend to update things toward the end of the week. But definitely don't check daily, it'll just drive you crazy! The system rarely changes during the week. Michigan is notoriously slow with manual reviews compared to other states, but they do eventually get through them. Just try to be patient even though I know it's frustrating when you're expecting that refund!
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Ella Thompson
ā¢This is really helpful, thanks! Good tip about checking on Fridays. I've been obsessively checking daily and it's definitely driving me nuts š 4-5 weeks sounds more reasonable than some of the horror stories I've been reading online. Did you end up getting your full refund amount when it finally processed?
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