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Don't overthink the building management fees! I spent hours researching this same question last year. The admin fee and move-in fee are definitely deductible in year 1 as rental expenses. The working capital contribution is trickier - technically it's a deposit into the building's reserve, so it's not immediately deductible. Also, make sure TurboTax is prorating your expenses correctly for the partial year. For things like property taxes and insurance, you can only deduct the portion that applies to when the property was actually a rental (Oct-Dec in your case). So that would be 3/12 of your annual amounts. This might be why some of your numbers look off.
For the working capital contribution specifically, I believe you can deduct it when the building actually spends the money on deductible expenses. My condo sends me a statement each year showing what portion of my contribution was used for repairs vs. capital improvements, which helps for tax purposes.
I had a very similar situation with my first rental property! Your cost basis calculation is definitely off - with a $520k purchase price, that $134,628 figure suggests there's an input error somewhere in TurboTax. A few things to double-check: 1. Make sure you entered the correct land/building allocation. Based on your tax assessment ($215k land, $100k improvements), you should allocate roughly 68% to land and 32% to building from your purchase price. 2. Verify you didn't accidentally enter a partial ownership percentage or put in the wrong purchase price. 3. The bathroom renovation ($15k) should be added to your depreciable basis since it was done before placing in service. Your depreciable basis should be approximately: ($520k - $353k land value) + $15k renovation = ~$182k for the building portion. For the closing costs, most of what you listed (recording fees, title insurance, legal fees) get capitalized into your basis rather than expensed immediately. The admin fee and move-in fee to building management can typically be expensed in year 1, but the working capital contribution is usually treated as a capital asset. Also make sure TurboTax is correctly prorating your expenses for the 3-month rental period (Oct-Dec). Your actual deductible expenses should be much higher than $257 for three months of operation.
Does anyone know if tax software like TurboTax automatically calculates the Social Security tax overpayment refund? Or do I need to manually enter something specific?
Most tax software should catch this automatically when you enter multiple W-2s that show your total wages exceeded the Social Security wage base. TurboTax definitely does - I've used it for this exact situation. When you enter your W-2 information, the software will calculate your total wages subject to Social Security tax across all employers. If that total exceeds the annual limit ($147,000 for 2022, $160,200 for 2023), it will automatically calculate the excess tax you paid and include it as a credit. Just make sure you enter ALL your W-2s before looking at your refund amount.
This is such a relief to read! I'm in almost the exact same boat - left my job in July after hitting the SS tax cap, then started a new position where they've been withholding SS tax for the rest of the year. I've been losing sleep over whether I'd have to deal with separate payments and refunds. Based on what everyone's saying here, it sounds like the IRS will just net everything out on my 1040, which makes way more sense than having to juggle multiple transactions. The safe harbor rule explanation was especially helpful - I definitely paid over 110% of last year's tax through withholding, so that should protect me from penalties. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and tools. It's nice to know this is a common situation and there are resources to help navigate it!
Don't overlook the importance of state tax knowledge! I used an out-of-state preparer once to save money and ended up missing out on several state-specific deductions. Cost me way more than I saved. At minimum, make sure whoever you use has experience with your specific state's LLC tax requirements, even if they're not physically located there.
Totally agree with this! I live in California and my first tax preparer was from Nevada. They had no idea about all our weird CA-specific requirements and I ended up with a state tax notice. Now I use someone who specializes in California business taxes even though they're actually based in Oregon. It's the expertise that matters, not their physical location.
I completely understand your stress about this situation - I was in a similar boat with my consulting LLC a couple years ago. Here's what I learned from my experience: You absolutely don't need a CPA for LLC tax preparation, especially if budget is a concern. An Enrolled Agent (EA) can handle everything you need and typically charges 20-40% less than CPAs. EAs are federally licensed and can represent you before the IRS, which is crucial when dealing with multiple years of unfiled returns and potential penalties. For the location question - physical proximity doesn't matter, but state tax expertise absolutely does. I made the mistake of using someone from out-of-state who didn't understand my state's specific LLC requirements and it ended up costing me more in the long run. Look for someone who specifically mentions experience with your state's tax laws, even if they're not physically located there. Given your multi-year backlog, focus on finding someone with experience in penalty abatement and catch-up filings. They can often get penalties reduced or waived entirely by properly explaining your circumstances to the IRS. Don't let the stress paralyze you - the longer you wait, the worse it gets. Getting accurate returns filed ASAP is what matters most, regardless of whether it's done by a CPA or EA. The IRS cares about accuracy and compliance, not the credentials of who prepares your returns. Good luck!
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the penalty abatement process you mentioned. When you say they can get penalties "reduced or waived entirely" - what kinds of circumstances typically qualify for this? I'm worried that just being overwhelmed and procrastinating won't be a good enough reason for the IRS to waive penalties. Did you have a specific hardship or was it more about how the request was presented? Also, when you mention finding someone with "experience in penalty abatement" - is this something I should specifically ask about when interviewing tax professionals, or is it just assumed that EAs can handle this?
Great question about penalty abatement! The IRS actually accepts several types of "reasonable cause" beyond just financial hardship. Being overwhelmed can qualify if it's presented properly - especially if you can show circumstances like illness, family emergencies, natural disasters, or even relying on a tax professional who failed you. The key is having your tax pro draft a detailed letter explaining your specific situation rather than just saying you procrastinated. You should definitely ask specifically about penalty abatement experience when interviewing tax professionals. Not all EAs handle this regularly, and experience matters a lot here. Ask them about their success rate with first-time penalty abatement requests and whether they've dealt with multi-year situations like yours. A good EA will know exactly which IRS forms to file (like Form 843) and how to structure the reasonable cause argument effectively. In my case, my EA got most penalties waived by explaining that I had been dealing with a family medical emergency that consumed all my attention for over a year. Even if your situation isn't as dramatic, there are often legitimate reasons that just need to be presented professionally to the IRS.
Pro tip: Write down all your previous addresses and employers for the past 3 years before you go. They love asking those surprise questions to trip people up lol
smart! gonna make a cheat sheet tonight
Been through this twice unfortunately. Besides what everyone mentioned, they might also ask about any changes in your banking info or direct deposit details from previous years. Also bring a recent pay stub if you're employed - they asked me about my current job even though it wasn't on my return yet. The whole thing took about 45 minutes but most of that was waiting. Good luck! š¤
Thank you for sharing your experience! That's really helpful to know about the banking info questions. Did they ask about specific dollar amounts or just general details about account changes? Also wondering if they wanted to see the actual bank statements or just verify the routing/account numbers?
Freya Christensen
Something important no one's mentioned - the Child Tax Credit amount phases out at higher income levels. Since your ex makes more than you ($78k vs $59k), you might actually benefit more from the credit than he would. For 2024, the phase-out begins at $75,000 for single filers. So your ex is already in the phase-out range while you're still under it. Depending on his exact income, he might not get the full benefit of the credit. If you're trying to maximize the total benefit between both households, it might make financial sense for you to claim both children in some years, especially if his income continues to rise. You could then work out some other financial arrangement to make things fair.
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Amina Bah
ā¢I had no idea about the phase-out starting at $75,000! That's really good to know. His income has been increasing each year (he just got promoted again), so maybe I should be the one claiming both kids. I'll need to look into this more before I talk to him about our arrangement for next year.
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Omar Hassan
ā¢Actually, for 2024 taxes (filing in 2025), the Child Tax Credit phase-out threshold is supposed to be $200,000 for single filers, not $75,000. So both parents should be eligible for the full credit amount unless something changes with the tax law again.
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GalacticGuardian
You're absolutely right to want to handle this fairly! As someone who went through a similar situation, I can confirm that splitting the Child Tax Credit with 50/50 custody is completely doable and legitimate. Since your divorce decree doesn't specify who claims the children for tax purposes, you have flexibility. The two most common approaches are: 1) Each parent claims one child every year, or 2) Alternate years where one parent claims both children. Given that you mentioned covering most of their healthcare costs, you might want to factor that into your negotiation with your ex. You could propose that you claim one child each year, or even suggest alternating who gets to claim both kids with the understanding that whoever doesn't claim them that year contributes more to certain expenses. The key is getting any agreement in writing - even a simple email or text exchange works. This prevents the "he said, she said" situations that can happen at tax time. Also, keep detailed records of your custody schedule and any expenses you pay for the children. While the IRS doesn't require you to prove who spent more money on the kids for the Child Tax Credit (unlike the dependency exemption rules), having documentation helps if there are ever questions. Don't let what happened last year repeat itself. Have this conversation now so you both know the plan going forward!
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