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I was in your exact situation last month. Found my DD date on the Account Transcript under code 846, but it wasn't there initially. My transcript first showed codes 570 and 971, then updated a week later with the 846 code. Have you checked if you have any 570/971 codes on your transcript? Those usually indicate there's some verification happening before they set your deposit date.
Just wanted to add something that might help - if you're checking your transcript and don't see code 846 yet, don't panic! The IRS typically processes refunds in the order they were received, but there can be delays if your return needs additional review. I had to wait almost 3 weeks after my return was accepted before seeing my DD date appear. Also, make sure you're checking the transcript for the correct tax year - I accidentally looked at my 2022 transcript when I needed 2023 and thought something was wrong. The "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website updates less frequently than transcripts, so the Account Transcript is definitely your best bet for the most current info about your refund status.
Don't forget about FBAR requirements if you're keeping that money in a foreign account! If you have more than $10,000 in foreign financial accounts at any time during the calendar year, you need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114). The penalties for not filing are insane - up to $10,000 for non-willful violations and the greater of $100,000 or 50% of account balances for willful violations.
I'm not keeping anything in foreign accounts - all the wire transfers are coming directly to my US bank account. Does that mean I don't need to worry about FBAR? Also, does the bank automatically report these transfers to the IRS since they're international?
You're good on the FBAR front since you're not keeping money in foreign accounts. That only applies if you have financial accounts outside the US. Your bank is definitely filing reports on these international wire transfers though. Banks are required to file a Currency Transaction Report (CTR) for transactions over $10,000, but they also file Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs) for patterns of activity like multiple transfers just under reporting thresholds - exactly like what you're describing with regular $6,500-$9,500 transfers. The IRS can easily access these reports, so they'll know about this income whether you report it or not. Always better to report properly than risk an audit and penalties.
Make sure you're keeping good records of everything - the wire transfers, any communications with the buyer, and especially any shipping receipts. If you're shipping to their US warehouse, that's domestic shipping which is generally not deductible against your capital gains. But if you have any other expenses directly related to the sales (like special packaging materials), those might be deductible against your proceeds.
What tax form does this even go on? Is it Schedule C for business or something else since it's personal items?
wait what does cycle 5 even mean? im new to all this tax stuff
Last digit of your cycle code. Cycle 5 means weekly updates, usually Thursday night/Friday morning
Same situation here! Filed 1/25, accepted 1/27, cycle 20250605 with ACTC. My transcript looks almost identical to yours - processing date Feb 24, code 150 with $0.00, and those future April dates. The waiting game is brutal but at least we know PATH should lift soon. That long number you mentioned (70211-424-09595-5) is just an internal IRS reference number, totally normal. Hang in there, we're all in this together! π€
Be careful. I ignored offset notices. Big mistake. They took my entire refund last year. $4,782 gone. All for an old student loan. I didn't even know about. From 2008. The worst part? If I had responded to the letters, I could have set up a payment plan. Only needed $5 monthly payments. Would have kept most of my refund. Don't ignore any letters you get. Respond immediately.
I went through this exact situation two years ago and it was such a rollercoaster of emotions! The 846 code got my hopes up, then the offset reality hit hard. Here's what helped me get through it: First, don't panic - the 846 code is still good news because it means your return was processed correctly. The offsets are separate from IRS processing, which is why they don't show on your transcript. Second, when you call the Treasury Offset Program hotline (800-304-3107), ask them to break down each offset by amount and agency. This will help you calculate if there's anything left over. Third, and this is important - each agency handling an offset has different hardship programs. I had two student loan offsets and was able to get on an income-driven plan that reduced future offsets to almost nothing. The waiting is the hardest part. It took about 3 weeks after my original refund date to get the remaining amount (which was only about 30% of my original refund, but better than nothing). One silver lining: this experience forced me to tackle my old debts head-on, and I'm in a much better financial position now. Sometimes these setbacks push us toward solutions we've been avoiding. Hang in there!
This is such a thoughtful and encouraging response! I really appreciate how you walked through the emotional journey - that rollercoaster feeling is so real when you see the 846 code and then find out about offsets. The tip about asking for the breakdown by amount and agency is exactly what I need to do. It's also reassuring to hear that even getting 30% back is possible. I hadn't thought about how this might actually push me to finally deal with some old debts I've been avoiding. Thank you for the hope and practical advice!
Shelby Bauman
Another consideration for exchange funds that I haven't seen mentioned - make sure you understand the fund's investment strategy and diversification requirements. Some exchange funds have minimum contribution thresholds (often $1M+) and specific diversification rules that limit how much of any single security they can hold. This means they might need to sell portions of contributed positions to maintain compliance, which could trigger some of the capital gains you're trying to avoid in the first place. Also, the management fees on these funds are typically much higher than traditional mutual funds or ETFs - often 1-2% annually plus performance fees. Over a 7+ year holding period, these fees can significantly eat into your returns. Make sure to factor in the total cost of ownership, including the tax preparation complexity costs everyone's discussed, when evaluating whether an exchange fund makes sense for your situation. I'd strongly recommend getting detailed projections from the fund showing net returns after all fees and estimated annual tax liabilities before committing. The tax deferral benefits might not be as attractive as they initially appear once you factor in all the ongoing costs and complexities.
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MidnightRider
β’This is exactly what I needed to hear - the fee structure breakdown is really helpful. I hadn't considered how those 1-2% management fees compound over 7+ years. Do you know if these performance fees are typically charged even in years when the fund underperforms? And when you mention "detailed projections," are most reputable exchange funds willing to provide realistic scenarios that include poor market performance years, or do they typically only show optimistic projections?
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Ryan Andre
Performance fees in exchange funds are typically structured as "high-water mark" fees, meaning they're only charged when the fund achieves new performance highs above previous peaks. However, the base management fees (that 1-2% annually) are charged regardless of performance, which can be particularly painful during down market years when you're paying fees on a declining asset base. Regarding projections, most reputable exchange funds will provide scenario analyses that include various market conditions, but you have to specifically request them. The default marketing materials tend to focus on historical performance during favorable periods. I'd recommend asking for Monte Carlo simulations that show potential outcomes across different market environments, including extended bear markets. One additional complexity I should mention - exchange funds often have "lock-up" periods beyond the 7-year minimum where early redemption penalties apply, and some have "key person" clauses that can trigger forced distributions if key fund managers leave. These provisions can create unexpected tax events even when you're trying to hold for the full term. Also worth noting that if you're in a high-tax state like California or New York, the multi-state filing requirements become even more burdensome since you'll likely be paying top marginal rates in your home state plus potentially owing taxes in multiple other jurisdictions where the fund operates.
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Camila Jordan
β’Thanks for the detailed breakdown on performance fees and lock-up periods - that "key person" clause is something I definitely hadn't considered. Do you know if there's any way to negotiate these terms, or are they pretty much standard across all exchange funds? Also, regarding the multi-state filing burden you mentioned - I'm in California, so this is particularly relevant. Have you seen situations where the additional state tax compliance costs actually outweigh the benefits of the tax deferral, especially for someone with a moderately sized position (say $500K-$1M range)?
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