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I see a lot of talk about deducting the tickets as marketing expenses, which is smart, but there's another angle worth exploring: in-kind donations of inventory. If your play center tickets can be considered "inventory" rather than services, and if the schools are qualified 501(c)(3) organizations, you might qualify for an enhanced deduction under Section 170(e)(3) of the tax code. The deduction could be for your cost basis plus half the difference between cost and fair market value (capped at twice your cost). So if each ticket costs you $5 to provide (your actual costs) but sells for $27, you might be able to deduct more than just your cost. This gets complex though and depends on how your business is structured (sole prop vs corporation) and whether these tickets truly qualify as "inventory" versus services. Might be worth bringing this specific code section up with your accountant.
Your accountant is correct about the bookkeeping entries - you do need to record both the revenue and the offsetting donation expense to maintain proper accounting records. However, this doesn't necessarily mean zero tax benefit. The key issue here is classification. While donated services typically aren't deductible as charitable contributions, your situation has legitimate business purposes that could qualify for deductions under different categories: 1. **Marketing/Advertising Expenses**: Since donating to school auctions generates community goodwill and exposes your business to potential customers (parents), these could be classified as ordinary business expenses rather than charitable donations. 2. **Inventory Consideration**: Your tickets might qualify as donated inventory rather than services, especially if you consistently treat them as such in your accounting. This could open up different deduction possibilities. I'd recommend having a focused conversation with your accountant about reclassifying these donations as marketing expenses. This approach often provides the tax benefit you're looking for while maintaining proper accounting practices. The fact that you're tracking school tax IDs suggests there should be some benefit - otherwise, as you noted, why bother with the paperwork? If your current accountant remains inflexible on this issue, consider getting a second opinion from another tax professional who specializes in small business deductions.
This is exactly the clarity I needed! The marketing/advertising angle makes so much more sense than trying to force these into the charitable donation box. When I think about it, we really are doing this to build relationships in the community and get our name out there to families who might not know about our play center yet. I'm going to approach my accountant with this specific framing - that these are legitimate marketing expenses generating community goodwill and business exposure. If he's still resistant to this classification, I'll definitely seek a second opinion. The bookkeeping can stay the same (balanced entries) but the tax treatment should reflect the actual business purpose. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly - it's reassuring to know the paperwork tracking isn't pointless!
I just went through this exact situation with concert tickets I resold! The key thing to understand is that the 1099-K doesn't mean you owe taxes on the full amount - it's just the platform reporting what you received. For a one-time sale like yours, you'll want to report this as hobby income on Schedule 1 (Form 1040). Report the full $9,215 as "Other Income" on line 8z, then you can deduct your original purchase cost ($8,795 based on your $420 profit) on line 24a as "Other Adjustments to Income." This way you're only paying tax on your actual $420 profit, not the full sale amount. Make sure to keep documentation of your original purchase - email confirmations, credit card statements, anything that shows what you actually paid for those tickets originally. Since this was clearly a one-time thing and not a business venture, Schedule 1 is definitely the right approach rather than Schedule C. The IRS understands that people sometimes sell tickets they can't use - they just want to make sure you're reporting the actual profit correctly.
This is exactly the clarity I needed! I was getting so confused by all the different advice online about Schedule C vs Schedule 1. Your explanation about using line 8z for the income and line 24a for the cost adjustment makes perfect sense for a one-time sale like mine. I've been stressing about this for weeks thinking the IRS would see that $9,215 and assume I made a huge profit when really I only made $420. Thank you for breaking down the specific line numbers - that's going to save me so much time trying to figure out where everything goes in TurboTax!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who's been through this exact scenario! I resold some Broadway tickets last year after getting a 1099-K and was completely panicked about how to handle it properly. The advice about using Schedule 1 is spot on for occasional sales like yours. What really helped me was organizing all my documentation upfront - I created a simple spreadsheet showing the original purchase date, amount paid, sale date, and sale amount. This made it super easy to see my actual profit and have everything ready if needed later. One thing I'd add is to double-check that your math is right on the $420 profit. Sometimes fees from the selling platform aren't immediately obvious, and you might be able to deduct those too as part of your cost basis. For example, if you paid any listing fees or seller fees to the platform, those could potentially reduce your taxable profit even further. The key thing to remember is that the IRS gets that 1099-K too, so they know you received the money. By properly reporting both the income AND your costs, you're showing them the full picture and only paying tax on what you actually gained. Keep those receipts safe - digital copies work perfectly fine!
Has anyone tried going to a tax professional instead of using TurboTax for this duplicate SSN problem? I'm wondering if they have better ways of resolving it or if they just tell you to paper file too.
I'm an enrolled agent (tax pro), and unfortunately, we face the same e-filing blocks that TurboTax does. The IRS system automatically rejects any e-filed return with an SSN that's already been used. However, a good tax pro might be able to help determine WHY it's happening and give better guidance on resolving it compared to TurboTax's generic advice.
Thanks for the insider perspective! I was hoping there might be some special tax pro workaround, but it sounds like the IRS system is the bottleneck regardless of how you file. I guess I'll try some of the other suggestions here first before paying for professional help that might end with the same paper filing recommendation.
I went through this exact nightmare last year! Here's what finally worked for me after weeks of frustration: First, call the Social Security Administration (not the IRS) at 1-800-772-1213 to verify your nephew's SSN is correct and there are no issues with his Social Security record. Sometimes there are name/SSN mismatches in their system that cause the duplicate error. Second, if that checks out clean, you'll likely need to file Form 8948 (Preparer Explanation for Not Filing Electronically) along with your paper return. This form specifically addresses situations where e-filing is rejected due to duplicate SSN issues. The frustrating truth is that when someone else has already filed using that SSN (whether legitimately or fraudulently), the IRS computer system has no way to determine which filer is correct - it just blocks all subsequent attempts. Paper filing forces a manual review where they can sort it out. One silver lining: if it turns out to be fraud, you might qualify for expedited processing of your paper return. Make sure to include a cover letter explaining the situation and any documentation you have proving your right to claim your nephew (custody papers, school records, etc.). Good luck - I know how maddening this process is!
Just FYI - if youre using dependent care FSA money for a preschooler, make sure your provider gives you their Tax ID number or SSN. Lots of people miss this and then cant properly report the FSA benefits. You need to list all care providers and their tax IDs on Form 2441 even with MFS status.
This is so important! I had my return rejected last year because I forgot to include my daycare provider's tax ID number. Also keep in mind that some smaller home daycares might give you their SSN instead of a business EIN.
Great question about MFS and dependent care benefits! I went through something similar last year. A few key points that might help: First, yes - you can absolutely claim the Child Tax Credit for your 4-year-old even with MFS status. That's $2,000 you shouldn't miss out on. For your FSA contributions, those $4,800 in pre-tax deductions have already given you the tax benefit by reducing your taxable income. However, with MFS status, you're actually limited to only $2,500 in dependent care FSA benefits per year (vs $5,000 for joint filers). So if you contributed $4,800, you may need to pay taxes on the excess $2,300. You'll definitely need to complete Form 2441 to report these benefits properly. The form will show your FSA contributions and ensure you're handling the MFS limitations correctly. One thing I'd strongly recommend - actually run the numbers for both MFS and MFJ scenarios. I know the student loan payments are a major factor, but sometimes the tax savings from filing jointly (especially with multiple kids and childcare expenses) can offset the increase in loan payments. Worth double-checking before you finalize your filing status.
Wait, I'm confused about something you mentioned. If the FSA limit is $2,500 for MFS filers, but they've already deducted $4,800 from paychecks throughout the year, how does that work exactly? Does the employer automatically stop the deductions at $2,500, or could someone actually end up with $2,300 that becomes taxable income? That seems like a huge oversight that could catch people off guard at tax time. Also, is there any way to adjust this mid-year if you realize you're going over the limit, or are you stuck with whatever was deducted?
Fernanda Marquez
I was quoted $3500 for a cost segregation study on my $450k rental house and was hesitant until my CPA showed me the numbers. The study identified about $145k in components that could be depreciated over 5, 7, and 15 years instead of 27.5 years. With bonus depreciation (this was in 2022), I was able to deduct almost $100k in the first year alone. In my tax bracket that saved me about $35k in federal taxes that first year. So the $3500 cost was absolutely worth it. The real benefit though was my wife qualifying as a real estate professional like your situation. Without that status, the passive activity loss limitations would have restricted our ability to use those deductions against our regular income.
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Norman Fraser
ā¢Did you need to get a new study for each property or can you use the percentages from one study and apply to similar properties? I have 3 houses in the same neighborhood built by the same builder.
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Fernanda Marquez
ā¢Unfortunately, you need a separate study for each property. The IRS requires property-specific analysis with documentation of the components in each individual building. Using percentages from one property and applying them to others wouldn't meet the "engineering-based" requirement the IRS looks for. However, some cost segregation providers offer discounts for multiple properties, especially if they're similar or in the same area, since they can be more efficient with site visits and analysis. I'd ask about multi-property discounts when getting quotes.
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Honorah King
Great question! I went through this exact decision process last year with my 3 single-family rentals. Based on your property values ($275k-$350k) and your husband's real estate professional status, cost segregation will likely be very beneficial for you. The key factors that made it worthwhile for me were: 1) Property values above $250k (yours qualify), 2) Real estate professional status to avoid passive loss limitations (you have this), and 3) Being in a decent tax bracket to benefit from the accelerated deductions. Since you bought properties in 2023, you can still capture significant value even though bonus depreciation dropped to 80% that year. The Form 3115 "catch up" provision others mentioned is huge - you'll get a large one-time deduction for all the additional depreciation you could have taken in prior years. One tip: get quotes from multiple providers. I found costs ranging from $2,800 to $4,500 for similar properties. Also ask about their audit defense guarantees - reputable companies will stand behind their studies if the IRS questions them. With your situation, I'd expect each study to identify 25-35% of your building value for accelerated depreciation. At your property values and assuming you're in the 24% or 32% bracket, the tax savings should easily justify the study costs.
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Kristian Bishop
ā¢This is really helpful insight! I'm curious about the audit defense guarantees you mentioned - what exactly do those cover? Do they pay for legal fees if the IRS challenges the study, or just provide documentation support? Also, when you say 25-35% of building value for accelerated depreciation, is that pretty consistent across different types of single-family homes, or does it vary significantly based on age, construction materials, or other factors?
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