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Everybody's focusing on the support test, but don't forget the residency requirement! For a qualifying relative who is not related by blood or marriage (like a girlfriend/boyfriend), they have to live with you as a member of your household for the ENTIRE year. But since you mentioned brother and brother-in-law relationships, those fall under the eligible relationship categories in Publication 501, so the residency requirement doesn't apply to you. You only need to meet the support and income tests.

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Yuki Watanabe

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Both of you are wrong. A brother-in-law is specifically listed in Publication 501 as a qualifying relative who DOESN'T have to live with you. The member-of-household test only applies to people not related by blood or marriage. Brother-in-law is a relationship by marriage, so they don't need to live with you the whole year.

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Lola Perez

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@Yuki Watanabe is correct here. According to IRS Publication 501, a brother-in-law is specifically listed as a qualifying relative who does NOT need to meet the member-of-household test. The relationship by marriage is sufficient. So for Diego s'situation, he only needs to worry about the support test and gross income test - not whether he lived with his family for the entire year. The key issue remains whether his family will provide more than 50% of his total annual support, including what he paid for himself in the first half of the year.

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Caleb Stone

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Diego, based on everything discussed here, it sounds like you have two main paths forward depending on how the numbers work out: **Option 1**: If your family can provide more than 50% of your total annual support (including what you paid yourself Jan-June), you could qualify as their dependent. This would help them with healthcare subsidies, but you'd need to be claimed on their return. **Option 2**: If the support test doesn't work out, you could file your own return and potentially qualify for significant healthcare premium tax credits based on your low income. With income under $5,900, you'd likely qualify for substantial subsidies - possibly covering most of your premium costs. I'd recommend calculating both scenarios to see which provides the better overall tax benefit for your family situation. You might want to use one of the tools mentioned here or speak with an IRS agent to get official confirmation of your calculations before making the final decision. The good news is that either way, someone in your family should be able to get healthcare assistance - it's just a matter of optimizing who claims what!

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Amina Toure

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This is really helpful advice! I hadn't considered that I might actually get better healthcare subsidies filing on my own versus being claimed as a dependent. Since my income will be so low this year, it sounds like I could potentially get most of my premiums covered if I file independently. I think I'll run the numbers both ways before deciding. Do you know if there's a deadline for making this choice, or can we wait until we actually file the returns next year to decide which approach gives us the better outcome?

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Connor Murphy

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I've been following this discussion and it's been really helpful! As someone who just started freelancing and is dealing with SE taxes for the first time, I was making the same mistake as Dylan - thinking the two adjustments were double-counting. The parallel universe example from Yara really clicked for me. I've been trying to wrap my head around why self-employment seems so complicated compared to regular employment, but now I see it's actually trying to create equivalent treatment between the two situations. One thing that helped me solidify this understanding was looking at actual Form 1040 and Schedule SE side by side. You can see how the SE tax calculation (with the 0.9235 factor) happens on Schedule SE, while the AGI deduction (half of SE tax) goes on Form 1040. They're literally affecting different parts of your tax return! For anyone still struggling with this concept, I'd recommend working through the forms manually at least once. It makes the distinction between SE tax calculation and income tax treatment much clearer when you see where each number actually goes.

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RaΓΊl Mora

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That's such a great point about looking at the actual forms! I'm also new to self-employment and was getting lost in all the theoretical explanations. Seeing how Schedule SE feeds into Form 1040 really makes it concrete - you're absolutely right that they affect completely different parts of your return. I just went through this exercise myself and it was like a lightbulb moment. The 0.9235 calculation stays entirely within Schedule SE for determining your SE tax liability, but then that SE tax amount gets used on Form 1040 for the deduction. They never actually interact with each other in a way that would create double-counting. Thanks for that practical tip - sometimes the best way to understand tax concepts is to see exactly where the numbers go on the actual paperwork!

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Omar Zaki

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This has been such an enlightening thread! As someone who's been preparing taxes professionally for a few years, I see this confusion about SE tax calculations come up constantly with clients. What I always tell people is to think of it as "separate but related" calculations. The 0.9235 factor isn't really a "deduction" - it's more like a conversion factor that makes self-employment income comparable to employee wages for FICA purposes. Regular employees don't pay FICA on their employer's share of the taxes, so we need to back that out for SE individuals too. The AGI deduction is completely separate - it's purely about income tax fairness. Since businesses can deduct their employer FICA contributions as operating expenses, self-employed people need equivalent treatment on their income tax return. I love the parallel universe analogy someone used earlier - that's actually how I explain it to confused clients! The key insight is recognizing these serve different tax systems (SE tax vs income tax) rather than being redundant benefits within the same system.

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Yara Khalil

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Dont overthink this. I've had foreign capital gains for years and its pretty simple. Report the gains on Schedule D like normal, fill out form 1116 for the foreign tax credit. Done. The tricky part is making sure your categorizing everything right on the 1116. Capital gains go in the "passive category income" section. Also dont forget to convert everything to USD using the right exchange rates.

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Keisha Brown

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This is kinda bad advice tbh. It's not "pretty simple" for everyone. The FTC calculation gets complicated with income baskets and limitations. I messed mine up last year and ended up with an IRS letter.

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Kolton Murphy

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I went through this exact same situation last year with foreign stock sales from Germany. A few things that helped me: First, yes you definitely report the $32k as capital gains and can claim the FTC for the $4.2k you paid. Make sure you have documentation showing the foreign taxes were actually paid and assessed on the same income. For software, I ended up using TaxAct Premium after the free versions couldn't handle it properly. It has a specific section for foreign capital gains and walks you through Form 1116 step by step. Cost about $50 but saved me from potential mistakes. One thing to watch - make sure you're using the correct exchange rate for the date of sale when converting your foreign currency amounts to USD. The IRS is picky about this. I used the daily rate from their website for the transaction date. Also keep in mind the FTC might be limited if your effective tax rate in the foreign country was much higher than what you'd owe in the US on that same income. Any unused credit can carry forward up to 10 years though. Good luck with your filing!

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Donna Cline

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This is really helpful, thanks! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with stocks from the UK. Quick question - when you say "daily rate from their website," are you referring to the IRS website specifically? I've been looking for the official exchange rates they want us to use and it's been confusing finding the right source. Also, did TaxAct Premium handle the passive income categorization automatically or did you have to manually select that?

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Leo Simmons

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Has anyone actually recovered their FULL AMT credit eventually? I paid almost $26k in AMT three years ago from exercising ISOs and have only recovered about $7k in credits so far. At this rate it'll take like 8 years to get it all back!

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Lindsey Fry

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I recovered all of mine but it took 4 years. The recovery really accelerates if you have a year with significantly lower income or fewer stock transactions. That fourth year I got almost 60% of my remaining credits back. Hang in there!

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Finnegan Gunn

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This is such a frustrating situation, and unfortunately you're not alone in getting bad advice from tax preparers about ISOs. The EA you spoke with was definitely wrong - ISOs absolutely trigger AMT when exercised, even if you don't sell. I went through something similar a few years back and ended up owing $23k in AMT after exercising options. What really helped me was keeping detailed records of everything - not just relying on TurboTax to track the credits properly. I created a simple spreadsheet with the AMT amount paid each year and credits used, because I've heard too many stories of people losing track when switching software. One thing to watch out for: make sure your company reported the correct fair market value on Form 3921. I've seen cases where the FMV was calculated incorrectly (especially for private companies), which can significantly impact your AMT calculation. If something seems off about the numbers, it might be worth having someone review the form before you file. The silver lining is that AMT credits don't expire, so you will eventually get that money back. It just takes patience unfortunately.

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Amina Diallo

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This is really helpful advice about keeping your own records! I'm definitely going to start tracking this in a spreadsheet now. Quick question - when you mention checking the FMV on Form 3921, what should I be looking for specifically? My company is private so I'm wondering if there might be an issue there. The FMV they reported seems reasonable but I honestly have no idea how to verify if it's correct or not.

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Amina Toure

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No one has mentioned tax credits! The formula isn't just "tax liability minus taxes paid." Tax credits come into play too and could explain the discrepancy. Tax due = Tax liability - (Taxes paid + Tax credits

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Oliver Weber

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Actually that's not quite right. Tax credits are already factored into your tax liability calculation. They reduce your liability directly. Your formula would be double-counting the credits.

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Aria Khan

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I had a very similar issue last year and it drove me crazy for weeks! The $529 difference you're seeing could be from several sources that aren't immediately obvious: 1. **Additional Medicare Tax** - If your income exceeded certain thresholds ($200k single/$250k married), there's an extra 0.9% Medicare tax that gets added to your total tax liability. 2. **Net Investment Income Tax** - If you have investment income and your modified AGI exceeds the thresholds, there's a 3.8% tax on investment income that gets tacked on. 3. **Premium Tax Credit Reconciliation** - If you received advance premium tax credits for health insurance through the marketplace, you might owe some back if your actual income was higher than estimated. 4. **Prior Year Balance** - Sometimes there's an outstanding balance from a previous tax year that gets rolled into your current year's amount due. The best thing to do is go through your tax form line by line and look for any additional taxes or adjustments that might not be part of your basic income tax calculation. These "extra" taxes can really throw off the simple liability-minus-payments formula that most people expect to work. Check lines 16-23 on Form 1040 - that's where most of these additional taxes show up. One of those lines probably has that missing $529!

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