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Let me tell you what happened to me last year - got my state refund in February while my federal was under review, then in JULY the IRS finally processed my federal with adjustments. Had to amend my state return and ended up owing them money! Plus penalties! The worst part was I'd already spent the refund on home repairs (sounds familiar?) and had to scramble to pay it back. Now I always wait until both are finalized before spending any refund money. Lesson learned the hard way!
This is such a common concern for new filers! Yes, you can absolutely receive your state refund while your federal return is under review. As others have mentioned, these are completely separate systems. I've been through this situation twice - once in 2022 and again last year. Both times my state refund arrived within 2-3 weeks while my federal took 8+ weeks to clear review. However, I want to echo what Omar and Chloe mentioned about potential complications. If the IRS makes adjustments to your federal return that affect your state taxes (like changing your AGI or deductions), you may need to file an amended state return later. This could mean owing money back to the state, sometimes with interest. My advice: Go ahead and expect your state refund to process normally, but maybe hold off on spending it until your federal review is complete. That way you're covered if any adjustments are needed. Good luck with your home improvements - hopefully both refunds come through smoothly!
This is really helpful advice about holding off on spending the state refund! I'm curious though - when you say "adjustments that affect your state taxes," what are the most common types of changes that would require amending a state return? Is it mainly income adjustments, or are there other things to watch out for? As a first-time married filer, I want to make sure I understand what could potentially go wrong so I can be prepared.
I've been using QuickBooks for my online business, and they actually have a feature to help with inventory adjustments like this. If you're using QuickBooks or similar software, you might want to check if they have a specific process for handling inventory count corrections. In my case, I was able to make an inventory adjustment entry that clearly documented the reason for the change. This created a paper trail showing exactly what happened and when I discovered the error. My tax software then helped me address Line 35 appropriately with the correct wording.
I'm actually using QuickBooks too, but I'm not super familiar with all its features. Could you share how you navigated to that inventory adjustment entry? Is it something specifically designed for tax corrections?
In QuickBooks Online, you can go to Inventory > Adjust Quantity/Value on Hand. There you can create an adjustment that changes the quantity and/or value of your inventory items. There's a field for "Adjustment Account" where you can select an expense account to track these adjustments (many people use "Inventory Shrinkage" or create a custom account like "Inventory Count Corrections"). The important part is filling out the "Memo" field with a detailed explanation of why you're making the adjustment - in your case, something like "Correction of 2022 ending inventory count error." This creates documentation right in your accounting system. It's not specifically designed for tax corrections, but it creates the paper trail you need to explain the discrepancy on your Schedule C. Then when you run your reports, the adjustment will be visible and properly documented.
I went through something very similar with my small retail business last year. One thing I'd add to the great advice already given here is to make sure you're prepared for potential follow-up questions if the IRS does review your return. In addition to the Line 35 explanation, I kept a simple spreadsheet showing the original count vs. corrected count for each affected item, along with the unit cost and total value difference. I also noted the date I discovered the error and what caused it (in my case, I had double-counted some items that were stored in two different locations). My CPA recommended keeping this documentation for at least 3 years in case of questions. She said having this level of detail ready actually reduces the chance of extended scrutiny because it shows you're being thorough and transparent about the correction. Also, since you mentioned you're behind on your inventory count - this might be a good time to implement a more systematic counting process for future years. I started doing quarterly spot checks on my highest-value items, which has helped me catch errors much earlier. Good luck with your filing!
This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm curious - when you say you kept a spreadsheet showing the original vs corrected counts, did you also include photos or other proof of the actual physical inventory? I'm wondering if having visual documentation would be overkill or actually beneficial in case of questions later. Also, your point about quarterly spot checks is smart. Do you focus those checks on high-value items only, or do you also sample some of your lower-cost inventory? I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to prevent this kind of error in the future without spending too much time on inventory management.
Anyone know if the IRS has a preference between these reporting methods? I use TradeLog and have always added wash sale amounts to cost basis on replacement shares, but my accountant is questioning it because his other clients' reports from their brokers do it the other way.
The IRS doesn't explicitly state a preference as long as all wash sales are properly identified and reported. But in practice, most major brokerages (Schwab, Fidelity, etc.) now report wash sales by adjusting the cost basis of replacement shares, which is the TradeLog approach you mentioned.
I've been dealing with wash sale reporting for years as a day trader, and what you're experiencing is actually pretty common. The key thing to understand is that both GainsKeeper and TradeLog are likely correct - they're just applying different but valid interpretations of the wash sale rules. The IRS allows flexibility in how you report wash sales on Form 8949 as long as you're consistent and don't ultimately avoid recognizing the disallowed losses. Some software applies adjustments immediately when the wash sale occurs, while others defer the adjustments until you exit the position completely. My advice would be to pick one method and stick with it consistently across all your trading. If you're unsure which to choose, the method that adjusts cost basis on replacement shares (like TradeLog did for your LINE 4) tends to be more widely accepted and is what most major brokerages use in their year-end tax documents. Just make sure your total gains/losses for the year are roughly the same between both systems - that's the real test of whether the calculations are equivalent.
This is really helpful context! As someone new to dealing with wash sales, I'm curious - when you say "exit the position completely," does that mean I need to wait until I've sold all shares of that security before the wash sale calculations are finalized? I have some positions where I've been buying and selling the same stock multiple times throughout the year, so I'm not sure when the "wash sale chain" actually ends.
Great question! The "wash sale chain" can get really complex when you're actively trading the same security. You don't necessarily need to exit the entire position - it's more about tracking each specific lot of shares and their associated wash sale adjustments. For example, if you buy 100 shares, sell at a loss (wash sale), then buy 100 replacement shares, the disallowed loss gets added to the cost basis of those replacement shares. When you eventually sell those replacement shares, that's when the wash sale "resolves" for that particular chain - regardless of whether you still hold other shares of the same stock. The tricky part is when you have overlapping wash sale periods with multiple buys and sells. Most good tax software will track these individual chains automatically, but if you're doing it manually, you'll want to use FIFO (First In, First Out) or specific lot identification to keep track of which shares are tied to which wash sale adjustments. This is actually another reason why the software discrepancies you're seeing happen - different programs may use slightly different methods for matching up wash sale chains when you have complex trading patterns.
Make sure your merger agreement specifically addresses how tax audit responsibilities will be handled if the IRS or state agencies come calling about pre-merger operations! We merged our LLC two years ago, and the IRS just selected our OLD company for audit for the year before the merger. Now there's a huge fight about who's responsible for handling it, providing documentation, and potentially paying any adjustments. Nobody thought to address this in the merger agreement and it's causing major drama.
This is such an important point. Our operating agreement had a section that specifically said all tax liabilities from prior years would remain with the original owners, but we didn't specify WHO would manage the audit process and pay for representation.
That's exactly the issue we ran into. Our agreement addressed financial responsibility but not who would actually handle all the administrative aspects. The original managing member of our LLC has moved on to other ventures and doesn't want to spend dozens of hours dealing with audit document requests, but they're the ones who have all the historical knowledge. We ended up having to negotiate a separate agreement where the new entity hired the former managing member as a consultant specifically to handle the audit proceedings. It was expensive and created unnecessary tension that could have been avoided with proper language in the original merger agreement.
This is exactly the situation I went through 18 months ago when our 3-member LLC merged with a larger entity. The undistributed profits piece was the most complex part to navigate. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of getting a formal valuation of your LLC before finalizing the merger terms, especially with $87K in undistributed profits. The acquiring company will likely want to see how those profits affect your capital account balance and overall contribution to the merged entity. Also, make sure you understand whether the merger will be treated as a contribution of assets under IRC Section 721 or as a sale. If structured properly as a contribution, you're right that it should be tax-free, but the devil is in the details of how the exchange is documented. For the K-1 handling, I'd recommend asking the acquiring company's accountants specifically about their process for issuing partial-year K-1s. Some firms are better at this than others, and you want to make sure they have experience with mid-year mergers to avoid delays in getting your tax documents. The undistributed profits will definitely transfer as part of your capital account, but make sure the merger agreement specifies exactly how they'll be valued and allocated in the new entity structure.
Great point about the formal valuation! I hadn't considered how the undistributed profits might affect the overall exchange ratio. Did you find that the acquiring company tried to discount the value of those profits since they represent "trapped" cash that hasn't been distributed yet? I'm worried they might argue our $87K in undistributed profits shouldn't be valued dollar-for-dollar in determining our ownership percentage in the merged entity. Also, when you mention making sure it's structured as a contribution under Section 721 versus a sale - what specific language or documentation should we be looking for to ensure it's treated correctly? Our preliminary term sheet just says "share exchange" but I want to make sure we don't accidentally trigger a taxable event.
Savannah Glover
Isn't the whole point of an S Corp to save on self-employment taxes? If you're making $180k in revenue, paying $850 for an accountant might actually save you money in the long run through better tax strategies. Software can file forms but won't necessarily optimize your tax situation.
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Fiona Sand
ā¢That's a really good point that I hadn't fully considered. My main reason for electing S Corp status was indeed to save on self-employment taxes. My accountant last year did help structure things efficiently with my salary vs. distribution ratio. I guess I need to weigh the software savings against potential missed optimization opportunities. Do you think there's a middle ground? Like using software to prepare the forms but maybe having an accountant review them for an hour or two at a lower rate?
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Savannah Glover
ā¢That middle ground approach can absolutely work! Many accountants offer a "review only" service that's significantly cheaper than full preparation. You'd prepare everything using software, then they review for optimization opportunities and red flags. In my experience, the best tax savings come from planning throughout the year, not just at filing time. Consider finding an accountant who offers quarterly check-ins to help with ongoing strategy (like timing purchases, retirement contributions, etc.). Even with just a review service, a good accountant should be able to identify if your salary/distribution split is optimal for your situation, which is the main S Corp advantage.
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Anastasia Popova
Just wanted to add another perspective here - I've been doing my own S Corp taxes for the past 4 years and have tried several of the software options mentioned. One thing that really helped me was understanding that the IRS has free fillable forms online that you can use for Form 1120-S if you're comfortable with tax forms. It's not as user-friendly as commercial software, but it's completely free and gets the job done. That said, if you do go the software route, I'd strongly recommend avoiding any program that doesn't specifically market itself as handling S Corp returns. The nuances around reasonable compensation, built-in gains, and pass-through calculations are too important to mess up with generic business software. Also, don't forget that as an S Corp, you'll need to file quarterly payroll taxes (941s) if you're paying yourself a salary, which is separate from the annual 1120-S filing. Make sure whatever solution you choose accounts for that ongoing compliance requirement too.
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Demi Hall
ā¢Thanks for mentioning the free fillable forms option! I'm pretty comfortable with tax concepts but hadn't considered going that route. Quick question - when you use the IRS free fillable forms for the 1120-S, how do you handle the K-1 generation? Does it automatically create those based on your inputs, or do you have to fill out separate K-1 forms manually? Also, you're absolutely right about the quarterly 941s - I've been handling those through my payroll service but it's good to remember that's an ongoing requirement separate from the annual filing. For someone just starting to self-prepare S Corp returns, would you recommend beginning with software and then potentially moving to free fillable forms once more comfortable with the process?
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