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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if part of your HSA distribution was used for non-medical expenses, you'd only pay the penalty on that portion. For example, if $1500 of your distribution was for medical stuff but $350 was for something else, you'd only pay the penalty on the $350. I learned this the hard way last year when I accidentally used my HSA debit card for some regular pharmacy items that weren't medical (like paper towels and snacks along with my prescriptions). Had to pay extra tax but only on those specific non-qualified items.
This is super important! I made this exact mistake. My HSA withdrawal included $75 for over-the-counter vitamins that aren't qualified expenses (unless you have a doctor's letter of medical necessity). My tax software correctly only applied the penalty to that $75 portion. Also worth noting that if you're over 65, you still pay regular income tax on non-qualified distributions, but the 20% penalty no longer applies. HSAs have weird rules!
This is a classic HSA reporting mistake that catches a lot of people! The dramatic jump in your tax bill is happening because your tax software is treating your entire $1,850 distribution as taxable income PLUS adding the 20% penalty for non-qualified distributions. Here's what's likely happening: When you entered your 1099-SA, you probably missed indicating that the distributions were for qualified medical expenses. Without that designation, the software assumes it was a non-qualified distribution and hits you with: 1. Regular income tax on the full $1,850 2. An additional 20% penalty tax (another $370) That explains your ~$810 jump in taxes owed ($1,590 - $780). Go back to your HSA section in your tax software and look for questions about whether the distribution was used for qualified medical expenses. Since you mentioned having receipts for doctor visits, prescriptions, and a procedure, you should be able to mark these as qualified distributions. Once you do that, your tax bill should drop back down significantly since qualified HSA distributions are completely tax-free. The key is making sure your software knows these were legitimate medical expenses!
You're absolutely doing the right thing by maintaining your boundaries. As someone who's dealt with similar accounting disasters, I can tell you that a $340k retained earnings discrepancy with phantom assets and missing liabilities is not a part-time bookkeeping project - it's a full-scale forensic accounting engagement. The fact that the previous admin was making changes to closed years is particularly alarming from a compliance perspective. This suggests potential issues with previously filed returns that could trigger audit exposure. Here's my suggested approach: Create a detailed findings memo that includes (1) specific examples of the major discrepancies you've found, (2) an honest assessment that this requires 200-300+ hours of specialized work, and (3) a strong recommendation to engage a CPA firm experienced in multi-year accounting reconstructions. Don't feel guilty about saying no. You were hired for current operations, not to fix years of accumulated errors at below-market rates while managing health challenges. Your responsibility is to identify problems and recommend appropriate solutions - which you've done. The owner needs to understand this isn't about unwillingness to help, it's about ensuring the work gets done properly by someone with the right expertise, capacity, and professional insurance to handle this level of complexity. A botched reconstruction attempt could make things worse, not better. Document everything, make your recommendations clear, and help them find qualified professionals. That's the most responsible path forward for everyone involved.
This is exactly what I needed to hear. The forensic accounting angle really puts this in perspective - when someone has been making changes to previously filed years without proper documentation, you're dealing with potential compliance issues that could expose the business to significant penalties. I'm going to follow your suggestion about creating a detailed findings memo. Including that scope estimate of 200-300+ hours should help the owner understand why this isn't something I can tackle in my 16 hours per week, especially while managing my current responsibilities and health limitations. The point about professional insurance is particularly important - if something goes wrong during a reconstruction of this magnitude, I wouldn't have the coverage that a CPA firm would have. That's another important reason to refer this to the right professionals. Thanks for reinforcing that identifying and documenting these issues properly IS doing my job. Sometimes it's hard not to feel like you're abandoning a sinking ship, but you're right that a botched attempt could make everything worse.
You're in an absolutely impossible situation, and I completely understand the guilt you're feeling. But you need to remember - you didn't create this mess, and you're not responsible for fixing 6 years of accumulated errors, especially given your health limitations and part-time status. A $340k retained earnings discrepancy is not a "cleanup" - it's a full forensic reconstruction project. When you have phantom assets, missing liabilities, and evidence that someone was making changes to closed years, you're looking at potential tax compliance violations that could have serious consequences. Here's what I'd do: Create a comprehensive written report documenting every major issue you've identified. Include specific examples (like that $80k double-counted expense), categorize the types of errors, and provide a realistic scope estimate. Then recommend they engage a CPA firm that specializes in business tax reconstruction - not general bookkeeping, but specifically multi-year tax compliance cleanup. Make it crystal clear that this is a separate professional engagement requiring specialized expertise, appropriate insurance coverage, and significantly more hours than your part-time schedule allows. You were hired to handle current operations, not to perform forensic accounting on years of accumulated mistakes. Your job is to identify problems and recommend solutions - which you've done perfectly. The owner's job is to invest in proper professional remediation. Don't let guilt push you into taking on work that could compromise your health or professional standing.
3 Just to add from my experience as a payroll specialist - most W-2c forms we issue are for small corrections that don't impact federal tax liability. Common ones include: - State tax withholding adjustments - Incorrect address or name spelling - Box 12 code corrections for benefits - Retirement plan checkbox errors Only about 30% of the W-2c forms we issue actually require the employee to amend their return. So don't panic until you see what specifically was corrected!
8 If my W-2c shows they took out more taxes than on my original W-2, would I get more refund if I amend? Or is it not worth the hassle?
3 Yes, if your W-2c shows more federal withholding than your original W-2, filing an amended return would likely result in an additional refund. The difference would be whatever additional amount was withheld. Whether it's "worth the hassle" depends on the amount. If it's just $20-30, some people might not bother. But if it's hundreds of dollars, most would find it worthwhile to file the 1040-X. Remember that you generally have three years to claim any additional refund, so you don't have to rush if you're not ready to deal with it immediately.
14 I got a W-2c last year after my company realized they messed up reporting some health insurance premiums. The crazy thing was that even though the numbers changed a bit, my tax software said it didn't affect my refund at all! Apparently some changes just don't matter for tax calculations. Maybe wait to see what exactly changed before worrying too much?
19 Which tax software did you use that told you whether the changes mattered? Mine just makes me start over with a new return and I have to figure out if anything's different myself.
I used TurboTax, but honestly it wasn't super clear about WHY the changes didn't matter. It just showed me a side-by-side comparison and said my refund amount stayed the same. For a more detailed analysis of what actually changed and why it impacts (or doesn't impact) your taxes, you might want to try something like taxr.ai that several people mentioned above. It seems like it actually explains the reasoning behind whether changes are significant or not, which would be way more helpful than just getting a "no change" message.
Has anyone actually formed their LLC structure this way, with one disregarded LLC owning another? I'm curious how you handled the paperwork. When filing articles of organization for the second LLC, do you list the first LLC as the member, or do you still list yourself?
I did this last year. For the articles of organization, I listed my first LLC as the member/owner of the second LLC. But on my tax return, both businesses' income ended up on my personal 1040 (separate Schedule Cs). Just make sure all your organizational documents clearly show the ownership structure.
This is a great discussion! I've been considering a similar structure for my photography business and a separate e-commerce venture. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you keep meticulous separate records for each LLC even though they're both disregarded entities. The IRS may disregard them for tax purposes, but if you ever face an audit or legal challenge, you'll want crystal clear documentation showing that these are truly separate business activities. Keep separate bank accounts, separate bookkeeping, separate contracts - treat them as completely independent businesses operationally even if they're connected ownership-wise. Also, consider whether you might want to elect S-Corp status for either LLC down the road as your businesses grow. Having the separate entity structure already in place gives you more flexibility for tax planning in the future without having to restructure everything.
This is excellent advice about record keeping! I'm actually in a similar boat - just starting to explore this structure for my consulting business and a potential retail venture. The point about S-Corp election flexibility is something I hadn't considered. Quick question - when you mention keeping separate bank accounts, do you mean the first LLC should have its own account, and then the second LLC (owned by the first) should also have its own separate account? Or would it be acceptable for the first LLC's account to handle transactions for both since it owns the second? I'm trying to understand the practical day-to-day banking logistics of this setup before I commit to the structure.
Dylan Baskin
Has anyone had luck deducting part of their cell phone bill for delivery work? I use my phone constantly for the apps, GPS, customer communication etc.
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Lauren Wood
โขAbsolutely! I deduct 80% of my phone bill since I'm on the delivery apps all day. As long as you can reasonably estimate what percentage is used for business, you can deduct that portion.
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Maya Jackson
Great question! Yes, you definitely should be tracking your mileage for 1099 delivery work - it's one of the biggest deductions you can take. Here's what I recommend: **For odometer readings:** You don't need to record it for every single trip, but do take photos of your odometer at the beginning and end of each work day, plus at the start/end of each year. This gives you solid documentation. **What to track for each delivery:** - Date and time - Starting point and destination - Miles driven (business purpose) - Total miles for the day **Pro tip:** Stop estimating immediately! The IRS can be strict about mileage deductions, and estimates won't hold up in an audit. Either use a mileage tracking app (like Stride, Everlance, or MileIQ) or keep a simple log in your car. You can choose between the standard mileage rate (67ยข/mile for 2024) or actual vehicle expenses - the standard rate is usually better for delivery drivers and much simpler to track. Since you just started last month, you can still go back and reconstruct your mileage using your delivery app records, bank statements, and any receipts you have. Better to get organized now than scramble at tax time!
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