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I've been dealing with MLP K-3 issues for the past few years and can definitely relate to your frustration. The key insight that helped me was understanding that when a partnership makes such an explicit statement about having no foreign source income or foreign taxes, they're legally bound by that representation. Your MLP's statement is actually quite comprehensive - they're not just saying they don't currently have foreign income, but that they "do not own assets generating income" from foreign sources. This is a structural statement about their business model, not just a current snapshot. I've found that most MLPs in the energy infrastructure space (pipelines, storage, etc.) operate purely domestically and genuinely have no foreign exposure. When they make these clear statements on the K-1, it's because they have complete certainty about their operations. The unfortunate reality is that the K-3 requirement has created this administrative burden where partnerships must produce forms even when there's nothing to report. But from a practical standpoint, if you uncheck the foreign transaction box based on their explicit statement, you're following their guidance and acting reasonably. I'd recommend keeping a copy of that K-1 statement with your tax records just in case, but you should feel confident proceeding with your filing on schedule.
This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was looking for! You're absolutely right about the structural nature of their statement - when they say they "do not own assets generating income" from foreign sources, that's fundamentally different from just saying they don't currently have foreign income. I really appreciate you pointing out that this is about their business model rather than just a temporary situation. That gives me much more confidence that filing without the K-3 is the right approach. The idea of keeping a copy of that K-1 statement with my records is smart too - that way I have documentation of the guidance I relied on if any questions ever come up. It's frustrating that these administrative requirements create so much confusion for individual taxpayers when the partnerships are being completely transparent about their operations. Thanks for helping me understand the bigger picture here!
I've been through this exact scenario with my MLP investments and want to share what I learned from both my tax preparer and direct IRS guidance. When your K-1 explicitly states that the partnership "does not own assets generating income and otherwise does not have foreign source income or incur foreign taxes," this is actually a very strong legal statement that you can rely on for filing purposes. The confusion around K-3 timing is unfortunately common, but here's what many taxpayers don't realize: the IRS requires partnerships to make K-3 forms available regardless of whether there's any foreign activity to report. This means even partnerships with zero foreign transactions must go through the K-3 process, which is why you're seeing these delays. In your situation, since the partnership has made such a clear and comprehensive statement about their lack of foreign exposure, you're absolutely justified in unchecking the foreign transaction box and filing on time. The partnership wouldn't make this statement if there was any uncertainty - they know taxpayers depend on this guidance for filing decisions. I've handled this the same way for three tax seasons now with multiple MLP investments and never had any issues. The key is that explicit language on your K-1 - that's your documentation that you made a reasonable decision based on the partnership's official guidance.
This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's been handling this situation successfully for multiple years! I'm a new investor in MLPs and was really worried about making the wrong decision, but your explanation about the legal nature of that partnership statement makes perfect sense. It's helpful to understand that the K-3 requirement applies even to partnerships with zero foreign activity - that explains why we're all dealing with these frustrating delays for documents that ultimately don't impact our returns. The fact that you've used this approach across multiple MLP investments and tax seasons without any issues gives me a lot of confidence. I think I was overthinking this whole situation, but when you're new to MLP investing, all these K-1 and K-3 requirements can feel overwhelming. Thanks for sharing your experience and helping me understand that I can trust the partnership's explicit guidance on their K-1. I'm going to file on time and stop stressing about waiting for a K-3 that won't change anything!
Same here! Got the 570 code about a week and a half ago and have been refreshing my transcript and checking the mail constantly. It's so nerve-wracking not knowing what's going on with your refund. Reading all these responses is actually really comforting though - sounds like most people get straightforward requests for verification. Really hoping mine is just something simple like what Emma and Landon dealt with. The waiting game is brutal but at least we're not alone in this! š
Right there with you Omar! Got my 570 code about 5 days ago and I'm already going crazy checking everything multiple times a day. This thread has been such a lifesaver - it's so reassuring to see that most people end up with simple verification requests. Really hoping we all get our letters soon and can put this waiting behind us! The IRS really needs to work on their communication timing š©
Just wanted to add my experience to help ease some anxiety! I had a 570 code last year and was freaking out for about 3 weeks before I got the letter. Turned out they just needed me to verify my identity online through ID.me - took maybe 20 minutes total and my refund was released within a week after that. The waiting is absolutely the worst part but try not to stress too much. From what I've seen here and in my own experience, it's usually something pretty routine that gets resolved quickly once you know what they need. Hang in there everyone! šŖ
Just want to point out something else - if he's receiving SSI (not SSDI), there's a very important distinction. SSI is not taxable and doesn't appear on tax returns at all. SSDI might be taxable depending on other income. Make sure you're entering his disability income correctly in the tax software. Also, depending on the twins' adoption situation, there might be an Adoption Tax Credit he could claim if this was a recent adoption. This credit has different rules than the Child Tax Credit.
Is there a way to tell if you're receiving SSI vs SSDI? My mom gets disability payments but I'm not sure which type it is. Does it say on the statements?
Yes, you can tell from the statements! SSI statements will say "Supplemental Security Income" and come from your local Social Security office. SSDI statements say "Social Security Disability Insurance" and the payments come directly from Social Security Administration. Also, SSI has strict income and asset limits (usually around $2,000 in assets), while SSDI is based on your work history and doesn't have asset limits. If your mom worked and paid into Social Security for at least 10 years, it's more likely SSDI. The distinction matters a lot for taxes - SSDI might be taxable income, but SSI never is. You can also check by logging into her my Social Security account online or calling Social Security directly if you're unsure.
This is such a frustrating situation that so many people face! I went through something similar with my brother who's on SSDI with two kids. One thing that really helped us was getting a clear understanding of ALL the credits he might qualify for, not just the big ones everyone talks about. Beyond what others have mentioned about the Credit for Other Dependents, there are sometimes state-level credits that have different requirements than federal ones. Also, double-check that TaxAct is calculating everything correctly. Sometimes tax software doesn't handle disability income situations well, especially when there are qualifying dependents involved. You might want to try running the same info through a different tax program (many offer free versions) to see if you get different results. The suggestion about earning just a small amount of income to cross that $2,500 threshold is really smart. Even something like selling items online occasionally or doing small odd jobs (within disability limitations) could make a huge difference in qualifying for credits. The math often works out where the tax credits far exceed any small reduction in benefits. Keep advocating for him - you're doing great by not just accepting the software's initial answer!
Dont forget about the difference between qualified and disqualified dispositions for ESPP! If u hold the stock for at least 1 yr from purchase date AND 2 yrs from offering date, its a qualified disposition and part of your gain gets taxed as long term cap gains instead of ordinary income. could be BIG tax savings!!
Great question! Yes, you can absolutely use tax loss harvesting from your regular investments to offset ESPP capital gains - they're treated the same way by the IRS for offsetting purposes. Just to clarify the ESPP tax treatment since there seems to be some confusion in other comments: The 15% discount you received is indeed treated as ordinary income and should appear on your W-2. Your cost basis for capital gains purposes is the discounted price you actually paid ($85 in Emma's example), so you only pay capital gains tax on appreciation above that amount. One thing to watch out for - make sure you understand whether you had a qualified or disqualified disposition. Since you mentioned selling after about 3 years, you likely met the holding period requirements (1 year from purchase AND 2 years from grant date), which could make part of your gain eligible for more favorable long-term capital gains treatment. Also be careful about wash sale rules if you're still participating in the ESPP program - continuing to buy company stock through payroll deductions while selling at a loss could potentially disallow those losses. You might want to double-check your 1099-B and W-2 to make sure the tax reporting aligns with your actual transactions before finalizing your tax loss harvesting strategy.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm still a bit confused about the qualified vs disqualified disposition though. I bought the shares through our ESPP in January 2022 and sold them in March 2025, so that's definitely more than 1 year from purchase. But how do I figure out the "2 years from grant date" part? Is the grant date when I enrolled in the ESPP or when each specific purchase happened? Our ESPP does quarterly purchases, so I'm not sure which date to use.
Mohamed Anderson
I feel you on the stress! Code 570 hit my transcript last month and I was freaking out too. From what I've learned lurking here, it's usually just the IRS being extra careful with their reviews. Mine actually cleared after about 5 weeks with no action needed on my part. The waiting is brutal but try to stay positive - most people get their refunds eventually, just takes longer than expected. Keep checking your transcript every Friday when it updates!
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Ethan Moore
ā¢Thanks for sharing your experience! It's so reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this recently. 5 weeks isn't too bad considering some of the horror stories I've been reading online. Did you get any correspondence from the IRS during those 5 weeks or did it just randomly clear up when you checked your transcript? I'm trying to figure out if "no news is good news" in this situation š¤
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Mateo Martinez
Code 570 is actually pretty routine - it just means they're doing additional verification on your return. I know it's scary when you need the money, but try not to panic! The most common reasons are income verification, checking for identity theft protection, or quality assurance reviews. Since you mentioned claiming EIC, that's probably why - they automatically review those more carefully. Most 570 holds resolve in 4-8 weeks. Keep checking your transcript every Friday for updates, and if you don't see any movement after 8 weeks, definitely call the Taxpayer Advocate Service. Hang in there!
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