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Jibriel Kohn

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the impact on future financial aid eligibility if you're planning to go back to school or have kids who might attend college. When you file separately, only the income of the parent filling out the FAFSA is considered for need-based aid calculations, which can sometimes result in significantly more financial aid. Also, if either of you is considering applying for income-driven forgiveness programs in the future, your current filing status choice can affect your payment history. Some couples strategically file separately for several years to keep payments low and maximize forgiveness, then switch to joint filing later. Given your income levels and the student loan situation others mentioned, I'd strongly recommend running the numbers both ways using actual tax software rather than estimates. The break-even point between filing statuses can shift based on small changes in deductions, credits, and other factors that are easy to overlook in manual calculations.

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This is really helpful information that I hadn't thought about! We're not planning kids anytime soon, but my wife has been talking about maybe going back for her master's degree in a few years. If filing separately could help with financial aid eligibility down the road, that's definitely worth factoring into our decision. The point about payment history for forgiveness programs is especially relevant since she's already on an income-driven plan. Do you know if there's a minimum number of years you need to file separately to see meaningful benefits for forgiveness, or is it more about keeping the payments as low as possible throughout the entire repayment period? And you're absolutely right about using actual tax software - I've been doing rough estimates in my head but clearly there are way more variables than I realized!

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Zara Mirza

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One more angle to consider - if you're thinking about buying a house in the next few years, your filing status can affect mortgage qualification in some cases. When lenders calculate debt-to-income ratios, they'll look at your student loan payments. If filing separately keeps those payments lower (as others have mentioned with IBR plans), it could potentially improve your DTI ratio for mortgage approval. Also, don't forget about the timing aspect. You can actually prepare your taxes both ways and see the total impact before you file. Most tax software will let you switch between married filing jointly and separately to compare the results. Just make sure you're looking at the complete picture - federal taxes, state taxes, student loan payment changes, and any other income-based obligations. Given your situation (combined income under $75k, one spouse with federal student loans on IBR, and significant medical expenses), you're actually a perfect candidate for the "run it both ways" approach. The student loan payment reduction alone might make separate filing worth it, especially if you can also claim that dental work as a medical deduction on the lower separate income.

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Ethan Taylor

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This is such great advice about the mortgage qualification angle! I hadn't even thought about how the student loan payments could affect our DTI ratio when we eventually apply for a home loan. That's probably going to be in the next 2-3 years for us, so keeping those payments as low as possible could really help. The timing point is really smart too - I like the idea of actually preparing the returns both ways before committing to one. That way I can see the exact numbers instead of trying to estimate. Do you know if there are any deadlines or restrictions on switching between filing statuses once you've started the process? Like, if I prepare it as married filing jointly first, can I easily switch to separate without starting completely over? And yeah, with that $4,500 in dental work, it definitely seems worth exploring whether the separate filing would get me over that 7.5% AGI threshold. Between that and the potential student loan savings, it's starting to sound like separate might actually be the way to go for us this year.

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Y'all are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. Just look at your W-2 at the end of the year. Box 12 with code W shows your HSA contributions. Whatever your employer reports there is what the IRS will see. Most payroll systems automatically handle this based on pay date, not pay period. If you want to be 100% sure, just ask your payroll department to show you how the January paycheck will be coded on your W-2. That will tell you which year it counts toward.

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Thanks for bringing it back to something concrete like the W-2 reporting. I'll definitely ask my payroll department specifically about how they'll be reporting this on my W-2. If it's purely based on payment date as everyone seems to be saying, then my original calculation of 5 remaining paychecks should be correct.

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Glad that's helpful! That's exactly the right approach. Most employers' payroll systems automatically handle tax reporting based on payment date, so your January check will almost certainly count toward next year's W-2 and HSA limit. Best practice is to leave a little buffer anyway - if you aim for maybe $50-100 below the maximum contribution, you'll avoid any potential headaches from slight calculation differences.

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Don't forget that if you can't max out through payroll for whatever reason, you can still make direct HSA contributions (outside of payroll) until the tax filing deadline. You'll miss out on the FICA tax savings that payroll deductions give you, but you'll still get the income tax deduction.

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Wait, there's a difference in tax treatment between HSA contributions through payroll and direct contributions? I had no idea!

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Rachel Clark

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Cycle code 04 means your return gets processed on Wednesdays! It's basically just the IRS's way of organizing which day of the week they handle your specific batch. The good news is you'll know exactly when to check for updates - your transcripts typically refresh overnight Thursday into Friday. Not good or bad, just tells you your spot in their weekly processing schedule. Hope this helps clear things up!

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Thanks for explaining that! I've been stressing about my cycle 04 code thinking something was wrong with my return. Now I know it's just about timing - gonna start checking Thursday nights instead of randomly refreshing every day lol šŸ˜‚

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Cycle code 04 just means you're in the Wednesday processing group! The IRS processes returns in batches throughout the week, and 04 = Wednesday. Your transcripts will usually update overnight Thursday into Friday, so that's when you want to check for changes. It's neither good nor bad - just tells you which day your return gets processed. The actual timing of your refund depends on other factors like if there are any holds or reviews needed. Hope this helps clear up the confusion!

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Derek, I went through this exact same situation two years ago with my J1 exempt status and marriage to a US citizen. The first-year choice was definitely the right move for us - saved about $2,800 compared to filing as nonresident. A few key things to remember: You'll need to attach a statement to your joint return declaring you're making the first-year choice election. The IRS doesn't have a specific form for this - just a written statement explaining your election. Also, since you're on J1 exempt status, you'll still need to file Form 8843 even after making the resident election. One heads up - if you had any scholarship or fellowship income during your J1 stay, the tax treatment can get complicated when you make the first-year choice. The taxable portion might be subject to different rules than if you remained nonresident. But overall, the joint filing benefits usually outweigh these complications. The biggest advantage beyond the better tax rates is that you can claim the full standard deduction for married filing jointly, plus access to credits like the Child Tax Credit if applicable in future years. As a nonresident, you'd be stuck with much more limited deductions and credits.

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Thanks for sharing your experience, Malik! This is really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. The $2,800 savings definitely makes it sound like the right choice for most people in this situation. Quick question about the written statement - do you remember what specific language you used when declaring the first-year choice election? I want to make sure I word it correctly so the IRS accepts it without any issues. Also, did you run into any problems during the filing process or with the IRS after making this election? The scholarship income point is interesting too since I did receive some research funding through my university. I'll need to look into how that gets treated under the resident vs nonresident scenarios.

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Miguel Ramos

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@e457b6ac6fe5 Great advice from your experience! I'm wondering about the timing aspect - since Derek arrived in August 2024 and got married in December, does the timing of the marriage within the tax year affect the first-year choice benefits at all? Also, for the scholarship/fellowship income you mentioned - did you have to pay self-employment tax on any portion of that when you made the resident election? I've heard conflicting information about whether research assistantship payments get treated differently for J1 holders who elect resident status. The $2,800 savings you mentioned is pretty compelling. Did that calculation include both the federal tax benefits and any state tax implications, or just federal?

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Derek, based on your situation as a J1 exempt holder who married a US citizen, making the first-year choice is almost certainly going to be your best option financially. I've helped several international students through this exact scenario. Here's what you need to know: The first-year choice allows you to be treated as a resident alien for the entire 2024 tax year, which means you can file jointly with your spouse and take advantage of the much more favorable married filing jointly tax brackets and standard deduction ($29,200 for 2024 vs. only $14,600 if you filed separately as a nonresident). For the mechanics: You'll file Form 1040 with your spouse, attach a simple written statement declaring your first-year choice election, and still file Form 8843 for your J1 status. Yes, you'll need to report your worldwide income from January-December 2024, including what you earned in your home country, but you can claim foreign tax credits on Form 1116 for taxes already paid abroad. The key eligibility requirement is that you must meet the substantial presence test in 2025 (which you almost certainly will since you're continuing your J1 program). Given that you're married to a US citizen and only had 5 months of US income in 2024, the joint filing benefits will likely far outweigh any additional tax on your pre-arrival foreign income. I'd recommend running the numbers both ways, but in most cases I've seen, people in your situation save $2,000-4,000 by making this election.

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Aaron Lee

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This is exactly the comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Thank you so much for laying out all the details, especially the specific dollar amounts for the standard deduction differences. The $29,200 vs $14,600 comparison really puts it in perspective. I'm feeling much more confident about making the first-year choice now. Just to confirm - when you mention running the numbers both ways, is there a simple way to estimate the foreign tax credit I'd get for the taxes I already paid in my home country? I paid about $3,200 in taxes there from January-July 2024 on roughly $18,000 of income. Also, do you happen to know if there's a deadline for making this election? I want to make sure I don't miss any important timing requirements.

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Isabel Vega

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of keeping good records throughout this process. Make sure you save copies of the trust document, any property appraisals done after your mom's passing, the closing statement from the house sale, and of course your K-1 when you receive it. Also, if the trust had any expenses related to the sale (realtor commissions, repairs, legal fees, etc.), these might show up as deductions on your K-1 that could reduce your taxable income. The trustee should account for these properly, but it's worth understanding what expenses were involved. Since this is your first time dealing with trust taxation, consider keeping everything organized in case you have questions down the road or need to reference these documents for future tax years. Trust administration can sometimes span multiple tax years, so good record-keeping from the start will save you headaches later. The good news is that since you mentioned the trust is winding down after distributing everything, this should be a one-time situation for you rather than an ongoing annual tax complication.

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Yara Nassar

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This is excellent advice about record keeping! I'm definitely going to create a dedicated folder for all these documents. You mentioned that trust expenses like realtor commissions might show up as deductions on the K-1 - does that mean those expenses could actually reduce the amount of taxable income I have to report? We did have quite a few expenses related to selling the house (realtor fees, some minor repairs, cleaning, etc.) that the trust paid for before distributing the proceeds to us beneficiaries. If those show up as deductions on my K-1, that could make a meaningful difference in what I owe in taxes. Also, your point about this being a one-time situation is reassuring. I was worried this might be something I'd have to deal with every year, but since we're closing out the trust completely, this should be it.

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I went through this exact situation with my dad's estate two years ago, and I can definitely relate to the confusion! One thing that really helped me was understanding that the K-1 you receive is like a "report card" from the trust showing your share of the trust's income, deductions, and gains for that tax year. Since you mentioned the house sale happened in April, that timing is actually pretty good - it gives the trustee plenty of time to prepare the 1041 return and get your K-1 to you before the filing deadline. In my case, we sold my dad's property in August, and I received my K-1 in February the following year. One thing to watch for: if the trust had any income before the house sale (like rental income, dividends from investments, etc.), that will also show up on your K-1 along with your share of the capital gains from the sale. The trustee should provide you with a summary explaining what each amount represents, but don't hesitate to ask questions if anything isn't clear. The whole process really does get much clearer once you have the actual K-1 in hand. Until then, just make sure you stay in communication with the trustee about timing, and start gathering any supporting documents you might need for your personal return.

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Payton Black

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This is really helpful context, thank you! The timing aspect makes me feel much better - knowing that selling in April gives plenty of time for the trustee to prepare everything properly takes some pressure off. Your point about other income sources is something I hadn't fully considered. The trust did have my mom's bank accounts and some small investment accounts that generated a bit of interest and dividends before we closed everything out. I hadn't thought about how that would factor into the K-1, but it makes sense that my share of all the trust's income for the year would be reported, not just the house sale proceeds. I'm definitely going to be proactive about staying in touch with the trustee about timing and asking for that summary explanation you mentioned. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through this successfully - it gives me confidence that I can figure this out too, even though it feels overwhelming right now.

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