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Hey Malik! I totally get your frustration - that 33% withholding definitely feels like a punch to the gut when you're used to your full paycheck amount. The good news is that you have several solid options to fix this. Since you're single with no dependents, you're definitely overwithholding by claiming 0. On the new W-4 form (which doesn't use allowances anymore), you'd want to just check "Single" in the filing status section and leave most other sections blank for a basic situation like yours. One thing I'd suggest before making any changes: take a close look at your pay stub breakdown like Sean mentioned. Make sure you understand what's federal income tax vs. FICA vs. state taxes. If your federal withholding alone is more than about 15-20% of your gross pay, you're probably withholding too much. You can always start conservative - submit a new W-4 with just your filing status and see how your next few paychecks look. If you're still overwithholding, you can always adjust again. Better to make gradual changes than to swing too far in the other direction and end up owing at tax time!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation - just graduated and started my first job a few months ago. I've been seeing about 30% of my paycheck disappear too and wasn't sure if that was normal. Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening, especially learning that the W-4 doesn't even use allowances anymore! I think I'll try the gradual approach you mentioned - just update my filing status first and see how it goes. Better safe than sorry since I have no idea what to expect come tax season. Thanks for breaking it down in such simple terms!

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Josef Tearle

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Welcome to the "holy crap, where did my paycheck go?" club! I remember that exact feeling when I started my first job out of college. Seeing 33% vanish felt like highway robbery, but you're definitely not alone in this. Here's what helped me figure it out: I actually kept a simple spreadsheet tracking my gross pay, total withholdings, and the breakdown between federal/state/FICA for a few months. It helped me understand my actual tax burden versus what was being withheld. For someone in your situation (single, no dependents, one job), the new W-4 form makes this much simpler than the old allowance system. Just fill out your basic info, check "Single" for filing status, and sign it. That should bring your federal withholding down to a much more reasonable level. One more tip: if you're worried about making a mistake, you can always submit a new W-4 partway through the year if your first adjustment doesn't feel right. HR departments are used to people tweaking their withholdings, especially new grads who are figuring this stuff out for the first time. Don't stress too much about getting it perfect immediately!

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Amara Nwosu

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm also a recent grad dealing with this same shock. One thing I'm curious about - when you submit the new W-4 to HR, how long does it typically take for the changes to show up in your paycheck? I'm eager to see more money in my next check but don't want to get my hopes up if it takes a while to process. Also, has anyone here ever had to explain to their parents why they're changing their withholding? Mine keep telling me to "just claim 0 to be safe" but after reading all this, I think they might be giving outdated advice from when they were working.

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Paolo Romano

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One important thing to consider with multi-state internships is the timing of your tax payments. Since you'll have income from both California and New York, you might want to make estimated quarterly tax payments to avoid any underpayment penalties, especially if your withholding isn't quite right. California has pretty aggressive estimated tax requirements, and if you're going to owe more than $500 at filing time, they expect quarterly payments. New York is similar but with a $300 threshold. Given your income levels, this could definitely apply to you. Also, don't forget about Social Security and Medicare taxes - those will be withheld at 7.65% regardless of your filing status or dependency situation. Unlike income taxes, you won't get these back as a refund, so factor that into your budget planning. The good news is that with your internship schedule, you'll likely have a few months at the end of the year with no income, which should help with cash flow for any tax payments you need to make.

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This is really helpful advice about quarterly payments! I had no idea about the $500/$300 thresholds for CA and NY. Since I'll be making around $65k total between both internships, should I definitely plan on making quarterly payments? And when would those be due - I'm assuming they don't align perfectly with my internship schedules? Also, quick question about the Social Security/Medicare taxes - does that 7.65% apply to my full income or is there some kind of cap for students/interns?

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With $65k total income between both internships, you'll likely need to make quarterly payments to both states. The quarterly due dates are Jan 15, Apr 15, Jun 15, and Sep 15 (or the next business day if they fall on weekends/holidays). Since your internships run Jan-May and Jun-Aug, you'll probably need to make payments for Q1, Q2, and Q3. For the Social Security/Medicare taxes (FICA), the 7.65% applies to your full income - there's no student exemption. The Social Security portion (6.2%) does have an annual wage cap ($176,100 for 2025), but you won't hit that with internship income. The Medicare portion (1.45%) has no cap. So yes, expect the full 7.65% to come out of every paycheck regardless of your student status. One tip: if your employers are withholding income taxes assuming full-year employment, you might actually have enough withheld to cover your quarterly obligations without making separate estimated payments. I'd recommend running the numbers once you get your first few paystubs to see where you stand.

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Olivia Evans

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Just to add another perspective - don't forget about the potential for additional state-specific deductions that might apply to your situation! Since you're working in both California and New York as a temporary worker, you might qualify for some deductions that regular residents wouldn't get. For example, California allows deductions for certain professional expenses related to temporary work assignments. New York has some provisions for non-residents who are working temporarily in the state. These vary year to year, but it's worth investigating since your tax situation is more complex than a typical single-state internship. Also, one thing that caught my attention - you mentioned your parents will claim you as a dependent. Make sure to coordinate with them on this! If you're providing more than half of your own support with your internship income (which you very well might be with $65k), you might not qualify to be claimed as a dependent anymore. This could actually work in your favor since you'd get the full standard deduction instead of the limited dependent deduction. It might be worth running the numbers both ways - being claimed as a dependent vs. filing independently - to see which results in less total tax burden for your family overall.

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This is such a great point about the dependency status! I hadn't even thought about whether I'd still qualify to be claimed as a dependent with this much income. With $65k total from both internships, I'll definitely be providing more than half my own support - especially factoring in rent, food, and other living expenses in both California and NYC. Do you know roughly how much the tax difference would be between filing as a dependent vs. independent? And is there a specific process I need to go through to "opt out" of being claimed as a dependent, or do I just need to have that conversation with my parents before they file? Also really appreciate the tip about state-specific deductions for temporary workers - I'll definitely look into those California professional expense deductions since I'll have some work-related costs moving between the two locations.

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Chloe Harris

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I just went through this exact situation this past tax season and wanted to share my experience. Like you, I received several W-2Gs throughout the year but was net negative overall from my casino visits. The most important thing I learned is that the win/loss statement is NOT what determines your tax liability - it's purely supporting documentation. You must report every dollar from your W-2Gs as income, period. The IRS already has copies of those forms, so there's no way around it. Here's what really helped me: I calculated whether itemizing my deductions (including gambling losses) would be more beneficial than taking the standard deduction. In my case, I had mortgage interest and charitable donations that, combined with my gambling losses, pushed me well over the standard deduction threshold. This allowed me to offset my gambling winnings with my losses. However, if you don't have enough other itemized deductions, you could end up in the unfortunate situation of paying taxes on winnings while being unable to deduct your losses. This is why keeping detailed session logs throughout the year is crucial - not just for substantiating your losses, but for making informed decisions about your gambling activity from a tax perspective. My advice: Start keeping meticulous records now for next year, and definitely consult with a tax professional who understands gambling taxes. The rules are more complex than most people realize.

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Chloe Davis

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This is really helpful - thank you for sharing your actual experience! I'm in a similar boat where I have some W-2Gs but am down overall for the year. Your point about calculating whether itemizing makes sense is crucial. I do have a mortgage and make some charitable donations, so it sounds like I should add up all my potential itemized deductions to see if they exceed the standard deduction. If they do, then I can actually benefit from deducting my gambling losses against the W-2G income. One question - when you kept your session logs, did you track every single bet/spin, or just your net win/loss for each casino visit? I'm trying to figure out the right level of detail without making it overly complicated. Also, did your tax professional charge extra for dealing with gambling taxes, or was it part of their normal service? I'm wondering if I need to find someone who specializes in this area.

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Cass Green

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For session logs, I tracked net win/loss per casino visit rather than individual bets - that would be way too detailed and impractical. I recorded the date, casino name, games played (like "slots" or "blackjack"), time spent, and my net result for that session. The IRS isn't expecting you to log every single spin. What matters is having contemporaneous records that show your gambling activity and losses. I used my phone to jot down notes during or right after each visit, then transferred them to a spreadsheet at home. The key is consistency and making entries close to when the gambling actually happened. Regarding tax professionals - most CPAs can handle basic gambling taxes, but if you have complex situations (like professional gambling or issues with prior years), it's worth finding someone with specific experience. My regular CPA handled it as part of normal tax prep, no extra charge, but she did spend extra time walking me through the gambling loss deduction rules since I was new to it. The most important thing is getting your itemized vs standard deduction calculation right - that determines whether you can actually benefit from deducting your losses or if you're stuck paying tax on winnings with no offset.

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Harold Oh

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I went through this exact same confusion when I started gambling more frequently and getting W-2Gs. The biggest misconception I had was thinking the win/loss statement somehow "netted out" my taxes - it doesn't work that way at all. Here's the reality: Every W-2G you received must be reported as income on your tax return, even if you're down overall for the year. The IRS already has copies of those forms, so they know about every jackpot you hit. Your win/loss statement showing you're down $3,800 doesn't change the fact that you still have taxable income from those W-2Gs. The good news is you can potentially deduct your gambling losses, but only if you itemize deductions on Schedule A, and only up to the amount of your gambling winnings. So if your W-2Gs total $2,000 and you lost $3,800 overall, you can deduct up to $2,000 in losses - but only if itemizing makes sense for your overall tax situation. This is where it gets tricky for casual gamblers. If your total itemized deductions (including gambling losses, mortgage interest, charitable donations, etc.) don't exceed the standard deduction, you're better off taking the standard deduction. But that means you pay tax on your gambling winnings with no offset for losses. My advice: Add up all your potential itemized deductions first to see if it's worth it, and definitely start keeping detailed session logs going forward. The win/loss statement helps, but the IRS wants to see your own contemporaneous records of each gambling session.

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Lilah Brooks

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This is such a clear explanation of how the gambling tax system actually works! I had no idea that W-2Gs create taxable income regardless of your overall losses. The way you broke down the itemized vs standard deduction decision is really helpful. I'm curious about something - you mentioned keeping detailed session logs, but what happens if you've already been gambling this year without keeping proper records? Is it too late to start now, or can you reconstruct some of the information from bank statements and the casino win/loss statement to create a reasonable log for this tax year? Also, when you calculate whether itemizing makes sense, do you include the full amount of gambling losses up to your winnings, or do you need to factor in any limitations? I want to make sure I'm doing the math correctly when comparing to the standard deduction.

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Paolo Longo

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The IRS Authentication Protocol for in-person verification requires biographic verification (your ID) and residential verification (proof of address). The standard procedure allows for documentation discrepancies if you can provide supplementary evidence. A utility bill, bank statement, or lease agreement with your current address should suffice as secondary verification. The verification threshold is typically met with two concordant documents, even if your primary ID shows a different address.

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Mei Chen

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I went through this exact situation in January 2024! My driver's license showed my old college address but I filed my return with my current work address. The verification agent was completely understanding - they see this all the time, especially with young professionals who move frequently. I brought my lease agreement, two utility bills, and a bank statement all showing my current address. The agent barely blinked at the mismatch and said "happens every day." The whole appointment took maybe 20 minutes. One tip: organize your documents beforehand in a folder - it shows you're prepared and makes the process smoother. Don't stress about this, you'll be fine!

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Nina Chan

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I went through something very similar when I switched jobs mid-year and my new employer somehow set up my withholding incorrectly. The good news is that with 2 kids under 10, you have some solid tax credits working in your favor. The Child Tax Credit alone could give you up to $4,000 ($2,000 per child), and depending on your income level, a significant portion of that can be refundable even if you paid zero in withholding. The Earned Income Tax Credit could also apply if your income falls within certain ranges - with 2 qualifying children, this can be worth thousands more. Your health issues might also qualify you to file as Head of Household, which has better tax brackets and a higher standard deduction. I'd definitely recommend running your numbers through some tax software to get a realistic picture, but don't panic - families with dependents often come out better than they expect, even with withholding issues.

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NightOwl42

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through it! I'm definitely going to look into the Head of Household filing status - I hadn't even considered that might apply to my situation. The potential refund amounts you mentioned sound way better than I was expecting. Do you remember roughly what income range qualifies for the full Earned Income Tax Credit with 2 kids? I want to get a better sense of where I might fall.

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The EITC income limits for 2023 (filing in 2024) with 2 qualifying children are pretty generous - you can earn up to about $50,594 if filing single or $56,844 if married filing jointly and still get some credit. The maximum EITC with 2 kids is $6,164, which phases out as your income increases. Combined with the Child Tax Credit, you could potentially see a substantial refund even with zero withholding. Just make sure your kids meet the qualifying child requirements (age, relationship, residency tests) and that they have valid Social Security Numbers. Also, definitely fix your W-4 going forward to avoid potential underpayment penalties next year. Your situation with health issues and being the primary caregiver for 2 young kids sounds like it would qualify you for Head of Household status, which would give you even better tax treatment.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was hoping to find! The EITC income limits you mentioned are really helpful - it sounds like there's a decent chance I could qualify for at least some of that credit based on my current income situation. I'm definitely going to look into the Head of Household status too since I am the primary caregiver. One quick question - when you mention "underpayment penalties," is that something that would apply to this tax year since I've already had no withholding for most of it, or is it more about making sure I fix things going forward? I'm trying to figure out if I should be worried about penalties on top of whatever I might owe.

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