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I had something similar happen last year. I received both a W-2 and 1099-NEC from the same company and my tax preparer filed it wrong too. It got fixed with an amendment and literally nothing happened. No audit, no questions, nothing. The IRS is so backlogged right now they're not going after these small issues, especially when you fix them yourself. The only thing you might want to check is if you need to file an amended state return too if your state has income tax. Sometimes the state revenue departments can be even more behind than the IRS in processing.
Good point about the state return! A lot of people forget that when they amend federal returns. Also, did you have to pay any penalties when you filed your amendment? I had to pay both the additional tax and a penalty when I fixed a mistake on my return.
I understand your panic - I went through something very similar two years ago with a misclassified 1099. The key thing to remember is that you've already done the right thing by filing an amended return quickly. From my experience working with small business tax issues, the IRS typically only initiates employer investigations when they see systematic problems across multiple employees or significant dollar amounts involved. A single corrected filing, especially one that you self-reported and fixed, rarely triggers broader scrutiny. Your amended return essentially tells the IRS "disregard the original Form 8919 - the income was correctly classified as independent contractor work." Since you're paying the additional taxes owed and showing good faith compliance, this should close the loop from their perspective. The fact that your employer legitimately uses both W-2 and 1099 workers (you have separate roles) actually works in your favor here. If anything ever did come up, your employment situation would be easy to explain and justify. Try not to stress too much - you caught the error quickly and handled it properly. That's exactly what the amendment process is designed for.
This is really reassuring to hear from someone with experience in small business tax issues! I keep going back and forth between feeling like I handled it correctly and then panicking that I've somehow made things worse by filing the amendment. One question - when you say "systematic problems across multiple employees" - does that mean the IRS would need to see several employees from the same company filing Form 8919 before they'd look into it? Or could other types of discrepancies also trigger a review? I'm trying to understand what would actually put my employer on their radar versus what's just normal tax correction stuff that happens all the time.
Keep detailed records of all the expenses you're paying for your parents throughout the year! This was crucial when I claimed my elderly father as a dependent. I created a spreadsheet tracking mortgage payments, property taxes, utilities, groceries, medical expenses, clothing, etc. The IRS wants to see that you're providing more than 50% of their total support, so having documentation makes this much easier to prove. For the house situation, calculate the fair rental value of what they'd pay to live elsewhere and count that as support you're providing, even though your dad's name is on the deed. Also consider opening a separate checking account just for their expenses if possible - makes tracking much cleaner come tax time. The co-ownership won't hurt you as long as you can show you're covering the actual costs of supporting them.
This is really solid advice! I'm just starting to figure out the dependent situation with my parents and hadn't thought about keeping such detailed records. Do you have any suggestions for what categories to track? Like should I separate out medical expenses from general living expenses, or does it all just go into one "support provided" bucket for the IRS calculation?
I'd recommend tracking medical expenses separately since they can be substantial for elderly parents and the IRS sometimes scrutinizes those more closely. Here are the main categories I use: 1. Housing costs (mortgage/rent, property taxes, insurance, utilities, maintenance) 2. Food and groceries 3. Medical expenses (insurance premiums, doctor visits, prescriptions, medical equipment) 4. Clothing and personal items 5. Transportation (gas, car maintenance if you drive them places) 6. Other necessities (phone, internet, etc.) The IRS looks at total support provided, so it all counts toward that 50%+ threshold. But breaking it down helps you see where the big expenses are and makes it easier to calculate fair market value for things like housing. Medical expenses are often the largest category for elderly parents, so definitely track those carefully with receipts.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the relationship/member of household test. Since you're all living together in the same house, your parents automatically meet the "member of household" requirement, which is good news. This means they don't have to meet the stricter "qualifying child" relationship test. Also, make sure you understand how the co-ownership affects the support calculation. The IRS looks at fair rental value - so if your house would rent for $2,000/month, that's $24,000 in housing support you're providing annually. Add up all the other expenses (utilities, food, medical, etc.) and compare that to what your parents contribute from their savings. Since you mentioned their savings are "almost gone," it sounds like you're definitely providing more than 50% of their total support. The key is being able to document this if the IRS ever asks. Keep receipts for everything you pay on their behalf!
Don't feel bad, I've been filing S-corp returns for 8 yrs and still get confused sometimes. Quick tip: if you're using tax software, most of them will flag percentages over 100% as errors during the review process. That's another reason to file electronically rather than paper - the software can catch simple mistakes like this before submission. Makes the whole process less stressful!
Which tax software do you recommend for S-corps? I've been using TurboTax Business but thinking about switching.
I've used both TurboTax Business and ProSeries for my S-corp, and honestly it depends on your complexity. TurboTax Business is great for straightforward situations - good interface and catches most errors. But if you have multiple shareholders, complex allocations, or depreciation schedules, I'd recommend stepping up to something like ProSeries or even Drake. The error-checking features in professional software are much more robust for business returns. What kind of complexity are you dealing with in your S-corp?
I'm glad to see this got resolved! As someone new to S-corp filing, this thread has been really educational. It's reassuring to know that even experienced business owners sometimes face confusion with tax forms. The distinction between number of shares vs. percentage ownership makes perfect sense now that everyone has explained it. I'll definitely keep this in mind when I eventually need to file my own business taxes. Thanks to everyone who contributed - this is exactly the kind of helpful discussion that makes this community valuable!
can someone explain how the 183 day rule works? ive heard this mentioned but im confused about what counts as a "day" in a state. if i sleep in one state but work during the day in another which one gets that day?? also what if ur traveling a lot between multiple states for work?
The 183 day rule isn't as simple as it sounds. Most states count any part of a day spent in the state as a full day for residency purposes. So if you sleep in State A but work in State B, both states might count that as a "day" toward their residency requirements. For frequent travelers, it gets complicated - you need to track where you're physically present each day. Some states have exceptions for transit days (just passing through).
The complexity everyone's describing here is exactly why I ended up hiring a tax professional who specializes in multi-state returns. I tried to figure out my California-to-Nevada move on my own and kept getting overwhelmed by all the different rules and exceptions. One thing that really helped me understand was keeping a detailed calendar of where I spent each night during the year I moved. It sounds tedious, but when you're dealing with aggressive states like California, having documentation of your physical presence can be crucial if they ever challenge your residency status. Also, don't forget about the economic nexus test that some states use alongside the physical presence test. California looks at factors like where your income is sourced, where your professional licenses are held, and where you maintain business relationships. Just moving physically isn't always enough if you're still economically tied to the state. For your rental property in California, you'll definitely need to continue filing California non-resident returns for that income even after establishing Texas residency. Texas doesn't have state income tax, which is great, but make sure you're properly reporting that California rental income to avoid any issues down the road.
This is really solid advice about keeping detailed records! I'm curious though - when you say "economic nexus test," does that mean California could still try to tax ALL of someone's income even after they've moved to Texas, just because they still have business ties there? That seems pretty aggressive. Also, for the rental property situation, would the OP need to pay taxes to both California (on the rental income) and Texas (if Texas had income tax), or does the interstate tax credit prevent double taxation?
Oliver Schulz
Reading through all these responses, I wanted to add one more practical consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet - the timing of when you make the loan can affect the AFR rate you need to use. The Applicable Federal Rate changes monthly, and you're locked into whatever rate is in effect when you actually make the loan. Since AFR rates have been fluctuating, it might be worth checking the current month's rate versus next month's before you transfer the money, especially if you're considering charging a minimal interest rate as some folks suggested. You can find the current AFR rates on the IRS website under "Applicable Federal Rates (AFR) Rulings." For short-term loans (3 years or less), you'd use the short-term AFR rate. Also, one thing that helped me when I did a family loan was setting up a separate savings account just for tracking the loan payments. It makes record-keeping much cleaner come tax time, and if you do end up with imputed interest to report, having that clear paper trail makes everything easier for your accountant. The advice about the $100k threshold and personal use exception seems spot-on for your situation. Given that your brother-in-law is dealing with divorce expenses, this should clearly qualify as personal use rather than investment, which could save you from most of the imputed interest headaches.
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Noah Lee
ā¢This is excellent advice about timing the loan with AFR rates! I hadn't thought about the fact that you get locked into whatever rate is current when you actually transfer the money. That's a really practical tip that could save money if the rates are trending downward. The separate savings account idea is brilliant too - I can see how that would make tracking so much cleaner, especially if there end up being any complications or questions later. It's one of those simple organizational steps that probably saves hours of headache during tax season. Your point about checking the IRS website for current AFR rates is helpful. I'm assuming for a 2-3 year loan timeline, we'd definitely be looking at the short-term AFR rate. Do you happen to know if there's much variation month to month, or are the changes usually pretty minimal? I'm wondering if it's worth waiting a month if rates might drop, or if the differences are typically small enough that it's not worth delaying help to family over. Thanks for the practical tips on implementation - these kinds of real-world details really help make the theoretical tax rules more manageable!
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Mikayla Davison
This has been such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar family loan situation and had no idea about all these nuances with AFR rates and imputed interest. One question I haven't seen addressed - what happens if the family member can't make payments on schedule? I know someone mentioned building in flexibility, but from a tax perspective, does it create issues if the loan payments get delayed or if you end up forgiving part of the debt later? I'm wondering if there are specific ways to handle payment deferrals or modifications that don't trigger additional tax complications. Like, if you originally set up the loan properly but then need to adjust the terms due to continued financial hardship, does that require new documentation or create new gift tax implications? Also, has anyone dealt with a situation where the family loan ended up being partially forgiven? I'm trying to understand what that would mean tax-wise for both the lender and borrower. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that's impossible to find just reading IRS publications!
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Dominique Adams
ā¢Great questions about payment deferrals and loan forgiveness! I'm new to this community but went through something similar recently. From what I learned when my family member couldn't make payments on schedule, you can modify the loan terms without major tax issues as long as you document the changes properly. We had to extend the payment timeline due to job loss, and our tax advisor said to treat it as a loan modification rather than forgiveness - so we amended our promissory note with the new payment schedule and kept the same interest rate structure. The key is distinguishing between a temporary payment deferral (which doesn't create gift tax issues) versus actual debt forgiveness (which does). If you formally forgive part of the debt, that forgiven amount becomes a gift subject to gift tax rules - meaning you'd need to file a gift tax return if it exceeds the annual exclusion limit. However, if payments are just delayed or the timeline is extended, that's generally treated as a loan modification rather than a gift. Just make sure to document any changes in writing and keep the modified terms reasonable - the IRS could question whether it's really still a legitimate loan if the terms become too lenient. One thing that helped us was including language in our original promissory note about potential payment deferrals during financial hardship, which made the later modification feel more planned rather than ad-hoc.
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