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Literally just had the SAME experience at H&R Block yesterday. Was quoted $267 for what I thought was a simple return (W-2 + small 1099). Walked out and did it myself with TurboTax for $89. The pricing isn't transparent at all - they don't tell you upfront that each additional form comes with its own fee. I felt like I was being upsold on services I didn't need.
TurboTax is still overpriced compared to other options. FreeTaxUSA would have done the same return for about $15 federal + $15 state. Same forms, same everything.
You're probably right. I went with TurboTax out of familiarity since I've used it before, but will definitely check out FreeTaxUSA next year. Even at $89 I saved nearly $180 compared to H&R Block, but saving another $60+ would be even better. I think a lot of these tax prep businesses rely on people not knowing the alternatives or being afraid to file themselves. After doing it myself, I realized it wasn't nearly as complicated as they made it seem.
As someone who's been through this exact situation, I totally understand your frustration! H&R Block's pricing structure is definitely not transparent upfront. They charge separately for each form and schedule, which adds up quickly when you have mixed income sources. For your situation (W-2 + small 1099), you have several much cheaper alternatives: 1. **Free options**: Cash App Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) handles Schedule C and SE completely free 2. **Low-cost software**: FreeTaxUSA ($15-25 total), TaxSlayer, or even TurboTax ($50-90) are all significantly cheaper 3. **Local CPAs**: Often charge $100-150 for similar returns and provide more personalized service The key thing to understand is that your 1099 income does require those additional forms (Schedule C for business income, Schedule SE for self-employment tax), but the software handles all the calculations automatically. You're essentially paying H&R Block $250+ for data entry that software can do for a fraction of the cost. Before you decide, I'd recommend trying one of the free options first to see exactly what forms you need. You can always start the process without filing to get a sense of the complexity. Most people find their situation is much more straightforward than tax prep companies make it seem!
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat - got quoted $280 at H&R Block for a W-2 plus some Uber driving income. I had no idea there were free options that could handle Schedule C and SE forms. Quick question - when you mention trying the free software first just to see what forms are needed, can you actually go through the whole process without filing and then use that information elsewhere? I'm nervous about starting something and accidentally submitting it. Also, for someone who's never filed with 1099 income before, are there any common mistakes I should watch out for when doing it myself? I don't want to mess something up and end up owing penalties later.
Just to share my experience - I had capital losses in 2021 and didn't file in 2022 (no income that year). When I filed in 2023 with income, I was still able to use my remaining capital losses from 2021. The IRS didn't question it at all.
I can confirm what others have said - you don't need to file just to preserve your capital loss carryover. I was in a similar situation a couple years back with about $5K in losses and took a year off from working. When I resumed filing the following year, all my losses were still available to use. The key thing is to keep good records of your original loss calculation from last year's return. Make copies of your Schedule D and any supporting worksheets that show how you arrived at the $6,500 loss. The IRS doesn't make these disappear just because you don't file in a zero-income year. That said, focus on your health recovery - that's way more important than worrying about tax filings right now. Your losses will be there when you're ready to get back to earning income and filing returns again.
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this exact situation! I'm in a similar spot with health issues taking priority over work right now. Just to clarify - when you resumed filing and claimed those losses, did you need any special documentation beyond your old Schedule D? I'm wondering if I should also keep my brokerage statements from the year I realized the losses, just in case the IRS wants to see the original transaction details.
My sister works at H&R Block and says you might qualify for a workaround. Even though job expenses aren't deductible anymore for W2 employees, if you have a legitimate side business (even something small), you might be able to allocate some of those expenses to that business on Schedule C. Like if you do any consulting or selling on the side, some of your phone bill or car expenses could potentially be allocated to that business.
I need to jump in here because this suggestion could lead to audit trouble. The IRS is very clear that expenses must be allocated properly between different activities. You can't take expenses that are clearly related to your W2 job and artificially assign them to a side business just to get a deduction. If you have a legitimate side business, then yes, you can deduct expenses that are actually for that business. But creating a side business just to deduct W2 expenses, or improperly allocating W2 job expenses to a side business, could be considered tax fraud.
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I wasn't suggesting creating a fake business or misallocating expenses! I meant that if OP already has a legitimate side business, some expenses that benefit both activities (like a cell phone used for both) could have the appropriate portion allocated to the side business. Many salespeople I know do have side gigs like consulting or training, and properly allocating shared expenses is totally legitimate. But you're absolutely right that you can't just make up a business or improperly allocate expenses that are purely for your W2 job.
I'm in a similar situation as a commissioned sales rep and want to share what I learned after going through this exact same confusion last year. The federal deduction elimination really stings, but there are still some legitimate strategies to explore. First, definitely look into state deductions if you're in a state that didn't conform to the federal changes. Second, consider having a conversation with your sales manager about expense reimbursement - many dealerships are willing to reimburse legitimate business expenses if you can make a case for it, especially if you're a solid performer. Also, make sure you're tracking everything meticulously even if you can't deduct it federally right now. The suspension of employee business expense deductions is scheduled to expire in 2026, so having good records could pay off when that deduction potentially returns. One thing I wish I'd known earlier: some training expenses might qualify for education credits instead of business deductions, which could still provide tax benefits even as a W2 employee. Worth looking into with a tax professional who understands sales compensation.
This is really helpful advice, especially the point about tracking everything even though we can't deduct it federally right now. I hadn't thought about the 2026 expiration date - that gives me hope that this situation might improve in a couple years. The education credits angle is interesting too. Some of those sales training courses I mentioned taking were pretty expensive, so if they could qualify for education credits instead of business deductions, that might actually work out better. Do you know if there are specific requirements for training to qualify as education credits for someone who's already working in sales? Also, I'm curious about your experience approaching your sales manager about expense reimbursement. What kind of expenses were they most willing to cover, and how did you frame the conversation? I'm worried about seeming like I'm complaining about costs or asking for special treatment.
Great question about the education credits! For sales training to qualify for education credits, it generally needs to either maintain or improve skills required in your current job, or meet requirements of your employer/law for keeping your job. The tricky part is that it can't be training that qualifies you for a new trade or business. Since you're already working in sales, courses that enhance your existing sales skills (like advanced negotiation, customer relationship management, or industry-specific product training) have a good chance of qualifying. Keep all documentation showing the course content relates directly to your current role. For the expense reimbursement conversation, I framed it as an investment in my performance rather than asking for help with costs. I prepared a simple proposal showing how certain expenses (client entertainment, training, professional subscriptions) directly contributed to my sales results. I used specific examples like "the sales methodology course I took helped me close X additional deals worth $Y in commissions to the dealership." Most sales managers understand that top performers need tools and training to stay competitive. The key is connecting your expenses to measurable business results and presenting it as a win-win rather than just asking for money back.
Has anyone here successfully negotiated down a surprise CPA bill? My accountant just hit me with a $425 charge for what was basically a 10-minute phone call about retirement account contributions. I'm furious but don't want to burn bridges since tax season is coming up.
I did! I got a $300 bill reduced to $75 by calmly pointing out that we'd never discussed rates for phone consultations and that I'd have chosen email (which was covered in my package) had I known. I basically said "I value your expertise and am happy to pay for it, but I need transparency about costs upfront so I can make informed decisions." They were actually pretty reasonable once I framed it that way.
This situation is unfortunately more common than it should be. As someone who's dealt with similar billing surprises, I'd recommend documenting everything - the timestamps, your previous email exchanges that weren't billed, and any informal agreements you had. The key issue here isn't whether CPAs deserve compensation (they absolutely do), but the lack of transparency. Professional service providers should establish billing expectations upfront, especially when changing their practices. The fact that similar consultations were previously free creates a reasonable expectation that this would be too. I'd suggest having a calm conversation with your CPA about establishing clear billing guidelines going forward. Something like: "I respect your expertise and am willing to pay for consultations, but I need to know rates and billing policies in advance so I can make informed decisions about how to seek advice." If they're unwilling to be transparent about future billing or adjust this surprise charge, it might be time to find an accountant who communicates their fee structure clearly from the start.
This is excellent advice about documentation and setting clear expectations going forward. I'm actually dealing with something similar right now and wondering - when you had that conversation about establishing billing guidelines, did you put the new agreement in writing? I'm worried about having another "he said/she said" situation down the road if we just discuss it verbally.
Absolutely get it in writing! I learned this the hard way from my first surprise billing incident. After our conversation, I followed up with an email summarizing what we discussed: "Just to confirm our conversation today, going forward you'll notify me if any question will require billable time beyond what's included in our annual service, and your rate for additional consultations is $X per hour with Y minimum billing increment." Then I asked them to reply confirming the terms. This way there's a clear paper trail and no room for misunderstandings later. It actually made our working relationship much better because we both knew exactly what to expect.
Beth Ford
Has anyone actually had experience with both options (checking box C vs. doing the multiple jobs worksheet)? I did the worksheet last year after getting married and I think we ended up overwithholding by like $4000! Wondering if just checking the box would have been better...
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Morita Montoya
ā¢I've tried both! The box is simpler but less accurate. The worksheet was more accurate for us BUT you need to redo it if your income changes at all during the year. We both got raises mid-year and ended up owing $800 because we didn't update our W-4s.
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Grace Thomas
Thanks for all the detailed responses everyone! This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping for. Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like the "two jobs total" box might be too blunt an instrument for our income difference. The $50k gap between my salary and my husband's seems significant enough that we'd probably end up overwithholding if we just check box C. I think my plan is to start with the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator that Leslie mentioned, and then maybe try one of the other tools people have suggested if I need more specific guidance on filling out the actual form. I definitely want to avoid both owing a bunch at tax time AND giving the government an interest-free loan! One follow-up question - should we both update our W-4s at the same time, or is it better to adjust mine first (as the higher earner) and see how that affects our withholding before touching his?
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Evelyn Martinez
ā¢I'd definitely recommend adjusting yours first since you're the higher earner - that way you can see the immediate impact on your paychecks and get a feel for whether you're on the right track. From my experience, making changes to both W-4s simultaneously can make it really hard to tell which adjustment is causing what effect. Start with yours, give it 2-3 pay periods to see how it looks, and then fine-tune your husband's if needed. Also, just a heads up - if either of you gets performance bonuses or other variable income throughout the year, you might need to revisit this. Bonuses can throw off your withholding calculations pretty significantly!
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