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Just wanted to add - if you were claimed as a dependent on someone else's return (like your parents), the filing thresholds are different. For 2021, dependents with only earned income needed to file if they made more than $12,550. But if you had unearned income (like interest), it gets more complicated. Also, even if you weren't required to file, you might want to anyway to get back that withheld tax. It's only $20 total between both years, but that's still your money!
Does work study count as earned income or is it considered some kind of financial aid? My college financial aid office gave me conflicting info about this.
Work study absolutely counts as earned income, despite what some financial aid offices mistakenly say. The money you earn through work study is reported on a W-2 just like any other job, and the IRS treats it as regular employment income for tax purposes. This is why your work study employer withheld taxes (even the small amounts mentioned). The confusion sometimes happens because while work study is part of your financial aid package in terms of how it's awarded, the actual earnings are treated as regular employment income once you receive them. It's fundamentally different from grants or scholarships in how it's taxed.
One thing nobody's mentioned: if you were a full-time student and your income was that low, you might qualify for the American Opportunity Tax Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit for those years! Worth looking into if you paid tuition or had educational expenses.
If they weren't required to file in the first place, can they still claim education credits after the fact? I'm in a similar boat and wondering if I should file for previous years just to get education credits.
Great point about education credits! Yes, you can absolutely still file for previous years to claim education credits even if you weren't originally required to file. The American Opportunity Tax Credit can be worth up to $2,500 per year for the first four years of college, and you have three years from the original due date to file and claim it. So for 2021 taxes, you'd have until April 2025 to file, and for 2022 taxes until April 2026. If you paid tuition those years and meet the income requirements, filing late returns just for the education credits could result in significant refunds - way more than just getting back that small amount of withheld tax. Definitely worth looking into!
What tax software are people using for old returns like 2021? Can you still use TurboTax or H&R Block for prior years? I'm in a similar situation and not sure which option is best.
Most major tax software companies offer prior year versions, but you usually have to pay for them separately. TurboTax, H&R Block, and TaxAct all have 2021 versions available for purchase on their websites. The downside is you'll probably have to file by mail since e-filing is usually only available for current and immediate prior year returns.
I went through this exact same situation with my 2020 return! The panic is real but you're actually in a much better position than you think. Since you're owed a refund, you have zero penalties to worry about. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - gather ALL your documents first before you start filing. I made the mistake of starting with just my W-2 and then realized I was missing my 1099-MISC from that side gig income you mentioned. It delayed everything by weeks. For your $3,800 side gig income, you'll definitely need to file a Schedule C if it was freelance/contractor work, and don't forget about potential business deductions you might have had that year - home office, supplies, mileage, etc. Those can really add up and increase your refund. Also, double-check your bank records from 2021-2022 to see if you made any estimated tax payments that you might have forgotten about. I found I had made a small quarterly payment that I completely forgot about, which added another $400 to my refund. The whole process took me about 6 weeks from filing to receiving my refund, but that included the time I spent tracking down missing documents. You've got this!
This is such great advice! I'm definitely going to gather all my documents first before starting anything. You mentioned business deductions for the side gig - I actually did work from home that year and bought some equipment for my freelance work. I had no idea I could still claim those deductions for 2021. How detailed do the records need to be for those business expenses? I probably still have some receipts somewhere but I'm worried I might not have kept everything organized from that long ago.
I wonder if its different if your accused of a federal crime vs a state crime? Maybe federal money cant be used for federal crimes? Just thinking out loud lol
One thing to keep in mind is the importance of clear documentation from the start. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of your fundraising page, showing that you're not offering any goods or services in return for donations. Screenshot everything - the description, any updates you post, etc. Also consider adding language to your fundraiser that explicitly states donations are gifts to help with legal expenses, with no expectation of anything in return. This helps establish the gift nature of the contributions from the beginning. If you do end up receiving a 1099-K from the platform, having this documentation will be crucial when explaining to the IRS why these payments shouldn't be treated as taxable income. The clearer your paper trail, the easier it'll be to handle any questions that come up later.
This is really solid advice about documentation! I'm just starting to consider fundraising for my own legal situation and hadn't thought about being so explicit from the beginning. Would it also help to keep records of how the funds are actually used? Like receipts showing the money went to attorney fees rather than personal expenses? I'm worried about creating any appearance that I'm benefiting personally from donations meant for legal costs.
Has anyone tried using the IRS's online account system to find this info? I've heard they have a business tax portal but never used it myself.
I used the IRS online account for my business. It shows your filed returns but doesn't break down specific lines like your profit. It's more useful for checking if they received your return, seeing any balances due, or making payments. You still need to look at your actual Schedule C for the profit details.
Great thread! As someone who's been running a small business for a few years now, I wanted to add that it's also helpful to understand the difference between cash vs. accrual accounting when looking at your profits. Most small businesses use cash accounting (you report income when you receive it and expenses when you pay them), but if you're doing accrual accounting, your profit calculation might look different because it includes money you've earned but haven't collected yet. Also, don't forget that your Schedule C profit affects your quarterly estimated tax payments for the following year. If this is your first profitable year, you'll likely need to start making quarterly payments to avoid penalties. The IRS expects you to pay as you go, not just once a year at tax time. One more thing - keep really good records of your business expenses throughout the year. I use a simple spreadsheet to track everything monthly, which makes tax time so much easier and ensures I don't miss any legitimate deductions that could reduce that profit number on line 31.
This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm just starting out with my small business and had no idea about the quarterly payment requirement. When you say "pay as you go," how do I know how much to send in quarterly? Is there a specific percentage of my profit I should be setting aside, or does it depend on my total income including my day job? Also, your point about record keeping is spot on. I've been throwing receipts in a shoebox like my dad used to do, but a spreadsheet sounds way more organized. Do you track anything specific beyond just income and expenses?
Joy Olmedo
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing of when you make this improvement. If you're planning to do this work early in 2025, you might want to consider whether it makes sense to accelerate it into 2024 depending on your current year income situation. Also, since you're dealing with water damage and erosion, make sure to document the current damage with photos and get it assessed before you build the wall. This helps establish that you're making a necessary protective improvement rather than an optional enhancement. The IRS likes to see clear evidence that structural improvements were driven by genuine business necessity rather than personal preference. Have you considered getting multiple contractor quotes? Sometimes having 2-3 professional assessments that all identify the same erosion threat can strengthen your documentation for the business purpose of this expense.
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Hazel Garcia
ā¢Great point about the timing! I'm actually planning to start this project in March 2025, so I hadn't considered accelerating it. My income this year has been pretty good, so pushing it into 2024 might not make sense tax-wise, but I'll definitely run the numbers. The multiple contractor quotes is smart advice - I only got one so far. Getting 2-3 assessments that all point to the same erosion problem would definitely strengthen my case. Do you think it's worth having each contractor specifically mention the threat to the business operations in their quotes, or is that overkill? Also, I'm taking photos of the current damage weekly now to show the progression. The soil has been washing away more with each heavy rain, and you can actually see where the garage foundation is starting to get exposed on one side.
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NebulaNomad
That documentation strategy is excellent - weekly photos showing progressive erosion will be incredibly valuable for establishing business necessity. For the contractor quotes, I'd definitely ask each one to specifically address the threat to your business operations. Having them state something like "failure to install retaining wall will result in continued foundation exposure that could compromise the structural integrity of the business workspace" gives you professional third-party validation of the business purpose. Since you're looking at March 2025 timing, you might also want to check if your state/locality has any permits required for retaining walls. Getting the proper permits not only ensures you're compliant but also creates an additional paper trail showing this is a legitimate structural improvement rather than DIY landscaping. One more thought - consider having your business insurance agent review the situation too. Even if they don't cover the retaining wall cost, having them document that the erosion poses a risk to your business property creates another layer of professional assessment supporting your position that this is a necessary business expense.
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