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Emma Davis

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I went through this exact same situation with my husband's furniture restoration hobby! What we learned after consulting with a tax professional is that you're absolutely right to be collecting sales tax - in most states, it's required regardless of whether you're operating as a hobby or business. The key thing is that sales tax collection and income tax classification are completely separate issues. Just because you collect sales tax doesn't automatically make it a business for IRS purposes. The IRS looks at factors like profit motive, time invested, whether you depend on the income, and how businesslike your operations are. For your situation with $580 in sales, you'd likely still report this as hobby income on Schedule 1 of your tax return. The sales tax you collected gets reported separately - you'll show it as income when you collect it, then as a deduction when you remit it to the state, so it essentially washes out on your federal return. One tip: keep detailed records of all your sales, including the sales tax portion, because you'll need to show the state exactly what you collected and when. Most states require quarterly or annual filings even for small amounts. Your husband is doing the right thing by being proactive about compliance! Better to err on the side of caution with tax matters.

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Emma Davis

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This is really helpful! I'm just starting to sell my handmade jewelry and was completely confused about the difference between sales tax and income tax reporting. So if I understand correctly, even if I'm just doing this as a hobby and making maybe $300-400 a year, I still need to get a sales tax permit and collect tax from customers? And then I report the hobby income on Schedule 1 but the sales tax collection is handled separately? I want to make sure I'm doing everything legally from the start rather than trying to fix things later.

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Yes, you've got it exactly right! Even for $300-400 in hobby sales, you'll likely need a sales tax permit in most states. The threshold for requiring a permit is usually very low - sometimes just one taxable sale. Here's the process: Get your sales tax permit first (usually free or low cost), then collect the appropriate sales tax on each sale, file your sales tax returns as required (monthly, quarterly, or annually depending on your state), and remit the tax you collected. For federal taxes, you'll report the total income (including the sales tax portion) as hobby income on Schedule 1, then deduct the sales tax when you pay it to the state. The sales tax essentially becomes a wash - you report it as income when collected, then deduct it when paid out. Starting compliant from day one is definitely the smart approach! It's much easier than trying to sort things out retroactively if your state decides to audit craft fair vendors (which does happen occasionally).

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I went through almost this exact same situation last year with my ceramic pottery hobby! After doing a lot of research and talking to my state's tax office, here's what I learned: You're absolutely doing the right thing by collecting sales tax. In most states, sales tax is required on tangible goods regardless of whether it's a hobby or formal business - the state just wants their cut of the transaction. For the income reporting piece, you can still treat this as hobby income since $580 from occasional craft fair sales clearly falls into hobby territory. The fact that you're collecting sales tax doesn't change that classification - they're separate tax issues entirely. When you file your taxes, you'll report the total income (including the sales tax portion) on Schedule 1 as "Other Income." Then when you remit the sales tax to your state, you can deduct that payment, so the sales tax portion essentially washes out on your federal return. The key is keeping good records of what you collected versus what you remitted to the state. Most states have pretty simple filing requirements for small sellers - mine only requires annual filing since I'm under their quarterly threshold. Don't stress too much about crossing into "business" territory at your current level. The IRS looks at things like profit motive, time invested, and business-like operations. Occasional craft fair sales of $580 is clearly hobby activity!

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StarSurfer

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm in a very similar situation with my husband's woodworking - we've been so worried about whether we're handling everything correctly. Your explanation about the sales tax washing out on the federal return makes perfect sense and I hadn't understood that part before. One quick follow-up question: when you say "occasional craft fair sales" - is there a specific number of events or frequency that might push someone from hobby into business territory? We're thinking about doing maybe 8-10 fairs next year instead of just the few we did this year, and I want to make sure we don't accidentally cross some line we don't know about. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this process!

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Make sure you're tracking all your income properly! The IRS now requires payment apps to report transactions over $600, so Zelle, PayPal, etc will be sending 1099-K forms for your income. Even if they don't, YOU still need to report all that income. And be careful about claiming too many expenses without documentation - that's a red flag for audits. Better to have a slightly higher tax bill than deal with an audit where you can't prove your deductions.

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The $600 reporting threshold is such BS. The government just wants to squeeze every penny from small hustlers while billionaires pay nothing. I've heard you can avoid the reporting by keeping transactions under $600 or using multiple payment apps.

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GamerGirl99

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I wouldn't recommend trying to avoid the reporting requirements by splitting payments or using multiple apps. The IRS expects you to report ALL income regardless of whether you receive a 1099-K or not. Trying to structure payments to avoid reporting thresholds could actually make things worse if they notice the pattern. The $600 threshold is just for reporting - it doesn't change your obligation to pay taxes on the income. Whether you get a 1099-K or not, you still need to report every dollar you earned. It's better to be transparent and compliant from the start than risk penalties later. @Ian Armstrong - focus on proper record keeping and legitimate deductions rather than trying to game the system. The IRS has sophisticated tools to track income across multiple payment platforms anyway.

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Kiara Greene

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This is a lot to take in but really helpful info! I'm definitely going to need professional help to get this sorted out. A few quick questions: 1. Should I focus on getting 2024 taxes filed first, or start with making estimated payments for 2025? 2. For business expenses, I buy a lot of equipment that I use for both client work and personal projects (like my gaming setup that I also use for game development clients). How do I handle the mixed-use situation? 3. Is there a penalty for not making quarterly payments in 2024, and if so, how much are we talking about? I'm realizing I've been way too casual about this. With the income I'm making, I can't afford to mess this up. Thanks everyone for the reality check - better late than never to get compliant!

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Xan Dae

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Great questions! I'd recommend tackling both simultaneously if possible: 1. For timing, I'd suggest making an estimated payment for Q1 2025 ASAP (due January 15th - you're cutting it close!) while also preparing your 2024 return. This shows good faith to the IRS that you're getting compliant going forward. 2. For mixed-use equipment, keep detailed logs of business vs personal usage. If your gaming setup is used 60% for paid client work, you can deduct 60% of the cost. The key is having documentation to back up your percentage - time logs, client project records, etc. 3. Yes, there are penalties for missed quarterly payments. The underpayment penalty is typically around 8% annually, calculated from each missed due date. With your 2024 income level, you're probably looking at several hundred to over a thousand in penalties, but paying now will stop the clock on future penalties. Don't panic though - this is fixable! The IRS would rather have you become compliant than avoid the system entirely. Consider it a learning experience and an investment in your growing business. You've got this!

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@Kiara Greene One thing that really helped me when I was in a similar situation - create a separate business checking account if you haven t'already. It makes tracking income and expenses SO much easier, especially when you re'dealing with multiple payment methods like Zelle, PayPal, etc. For the penalty question, you can use Form 2210 to see if you qualify for any exceptions to the underpayment penalty. Sometimes if your income was irregular or you had no tax liability the previous year, you might avoid some penalties. But definitely don t'count on it - better to assume you ll'owe them and be pleasantly surprised if you don t.'Also, since you re'making good money now, consider opening a high-yield savings account specifically for tax payments. Set aside that 25-30% from each payment immediately. I use a separate account so I m'not tempted to spend my tax money, and the interest helps offset some of the penalty costs. The business is clearly successful, so investing in proper tax compliance now will save you major headaches and (money down) the road!

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NeonNomad

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through a similar situation last year! When I transitioned from employer coverage to Medicaid mid-year, I was also confused about what to do with all the forms. One thing that helped me was keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking my coverage months - January through October with employer insurance, November-December with Medicaid. This made it easy to verify that the dates on my 1095-C matched what I remembered, and later helped when I got my 1095-B from the state. The key thing to remember is that as long as you had qualifying coverage for all 12 months (which you did), you're good to go. The 1095 forms are just the paper trail proving it. I ended up never needing to reference them again after filing, but I kept them with my tax documents just in case. Hope your tax filing goes smoothly this year!

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Keisha Brown

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That's a really smart idea about keeping a spreadsheet to track coverage months! I wish I had thought of that when I was dealing with my transition. It would have made it so much easier to double-check that the dates on my forms were accurate. I'm definitely going to use that approach this year - seems like a simple way to stay organized and catch any potential discrepancies before they become problems. Thanks for sharing that tip!

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I went through almost the exact same situation a couple years ago! Had employer insurance through September, then got on Medicaid in October after losing my job. Just to echo what others have said - you definitely don't need to file the 1095-C with your return. It's purely for your records. The IRS already gets a copy from your employer, so they know you had coverage during those months. One small thing to watch out for - make sure the coverage end date on your 1095-C matches when your employer coverage actually ended. Mine initially showed coverage through November even though I lost my job (and insurance) in September. Had to contact HR to get a corrected form. It probably wouldn't have caused major issues, but it's good to have accurate records. Also, don't stress if your Medicaid 1095-B takes a while to arrive. Some states are slower than others with mailing them out, but you can always check your state's Medicaid portal online to see if there's a digital copy available for download. You're all set as long as you had continuous coverage, which it sounds like you did!

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One additional consideration for your dual-status situation - make sure you're aware of any potential treaty benefits between the US and Canada that might affect your tax calculation. The US-Canada Tax Treaty has specific provisions for residents who change status during the year, and there might be tie-breaker rules that could impact how you're treated for certain types of income. Also, since you mentioned you were working remotely for your Canadian employer while being a US tax resident, you'll want to verify that your employer properly handled any Canadian tax withholdings during that period. Sometimes employers don't adjust withholdings when employees become non-residents for Canadian tax purposes, which could affect your foreign tax credit calculations. Have you considered whether you need to file any additional Canadian forms (like a departure tax return) since you became a non-resident of Canada? The timing of your tax residency changes in both countries can create some complex interactions that might affect your overall tax liability.

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Kai Santiago

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This is a really important point about the US-Canada Tax Treaty! I'm dealing with a similar situation and hadn't considered the tie-breaker rules. Do you know if there are specific provisions that would help someone in Jacob's situation where he became a US resident mid-year but continued working for a Canadian employer? I'm wondering if the treaty might provide some relief for the potential double taxation during that transition period. Also, regarding the departure tax return - I believe Canada requires a deemed disposition return when you cease to be a resident, but there might be exceptions for certain types of property or if the total value is below certain thresholds. This could definitely impact the foreign tax credit calculations if there are additional Canadian taxes owed from the departure.

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Ava Williams

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Jacob, your approach looks solid, but I wanted to add a few practical tips from my own dual-status experience moving from the UK to the US: 1. **Documentation is key** - Keep detailed records of your residency determination. Since you mentioned becoming a US resident under the Green Card test, make sure you have clear documentation of when your status changed, as this will be crucial if the IRS has questions. 2. **State tax considerations** - Don't forget about state tax implications! Depending on which state you're in, you may need to file a part-year resident return there too, and some states have different rules for recognizing foreign tax credits. 3. **Estimated tax payments** - Since you had no US income in 2023 but will likely have US income in 2024, consider whether you need to make estimated tax payments for 2024. The transition year can sometimes create unexpected tax liabilities in the following year. 4. **FBAR and Form 8938** - Make sure you're also considering your reporting requirements for foreign bank accounts and assets. Even though you're focused on the income tax return, the FBAR and Form 8938 thresholds and requirements can be different for dual-status taxpayers. The foreign tax credit timing issue you mentioned is very common - I had the exact same situation with additional taxes paid the following year. Amelia's advice about claiming them on your 2024 return is spot on. Good luck with your filing! The first dual-status return is always the most challenging, but you'll have a much better understanding for future years.

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Philip Cowan

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I went through almost the exact same situation when I transferred from our Vancouver office to Chicago in 2023. The double taxation on RSUs is incredibly frustrating, especially when your tax preparer doesn't understand cross-border issues. What saved me was getting really organized about the documentation upfront. Here's what I learned from my experience: 1. **Get the allocation worksheet from your employer immediately** - Don't wait. Contact both your HR department and your stock plan administrator (usually a third-party like Fidelity, Schwab, or E*TRADE). They should be able to provide a breakdown showing what percentage of your RSU income relates to work performed in each country during the vesting period. 2. **File Form 8833 with detailed explanations** - This is non-negotiable for claiming treaty benefits. Be very specific about citing Article XV of the US-Canada tax treaty and show your exact calculation method. I attached a cover letter explaining my situation and included all supporting documentation. 3. **Keep detailed records of your transfer** - Employment authorization documents, transfer confirmation emails, start/end dates in each office. The IRS wants to see that your allocation method is based on actual facts, not just estimates. In my case, I had worked 2.5 years in Canada out of a 4-year vesting period, so about 62% of my RSU income was Canadian-sourced. The IRS accepted my filing without any questions, and I ended up saving about $9,200 compared to what my original tax preparer calculated. Don't let a tax preparer who doesn't understand international tax cost you thousands. This is a well-established area of tax law, and with proper documentation, the IRS should accept your position under the treaty.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing such detailed guidance! Your experience gives me a lot more confidence that this situation can be resolved properly with the right documentation. I'm particularly relieved to hear that the IRS accepted your filing without questions when you had everything properly documented. The $9,200 savings really shows how important it is to get this right rather than just accepting what a general tax preparer calculates. Quick question - when you contacted your stock plan administrator, did they already have a standard process for providing these allocation worksheets for international transfers, or did you have to explain what you needed? I'm planning to call Schwab tomorrow and want to make sure I'm asking for the right thing. Also, did you end up needing to file any additional forms beyond Form 8833, or was that sufficient to claim the treaty benefits? Your point about not waiting to get the documentation is well taken. I'm going to reach out to both HR and the stock plan team first thing tomorrow morning.

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Freya Larsen

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I'm dealing with a very similar cross-border RSU situation after transferring from our Dublin office to San Francisco last year. The complexity of US-Ireland tax treaty provisions for RSUs has been a nightmare to navigate. One thing I learned that might help others in this thread - when you're calculating the allocation based on work performed during the vesting period, make sure you're using business days rather than calendar days. My tax attorney pointed out that weekends, holidays, and vacation days shouldn't count toward the allocation calculation since you weren't actually performing services on those days. Also, for anyone dealing with this issue, I found that creating a detailed timeline document was incredibly helpful. I mapped out my exact employment dates, transfer paperwork, visa approvals, and first/last days worked in each country. This timeline became the foundation for my Form 8833 filing and helped demonstrate to the IRS that my allocation method was based on concrete facts rather than estimates. The Ireland-US treaty (Article 15) works similarly to the Canada-US provisions mentioned here. After properly documenting everything and filing the treaty disclosure, I was able to avoid about $11,000 in double taxation that my original tax preparer had calculated. The peace of mind from getting it right was worth the extra effort to gather all the documentation.

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