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If you're going to do this, be SUPER careful with documentation. My friend tried this with his lawn care business and got audited. The IRS disallowed all the deductions for his kids because he couldn't prove they actually did the work or that the pay was reasonable. Keep a timesheet for each kid with dates, hours worked, and duties performed. Pay them regularly (biweekly or monthly) not just one big payment at year end. Take pictures of them working if possible. And pay them a reasonable wage for their age and the work they're doing - don't pay your 10-year-old $50/hour for stuffing envelopes!

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Would writing a job description for each kid be helpful too? I'm planning to implement this with my consulting business, and I'm thinking about creating actual job descriptions and "employment agreements" with my kids to make everything super official.

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Emma Wilson

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Absolutely! Having written job descriptions is a fantastic idea and shows you're treating this as a legitimate business arrangement. I'd recommend creating simple but specific job descriptions that outline duties appropriate for each child's age and abilities. For example, if your 12-year-old helps with filing and basic office tasks, write that up with specific duties like "organize client files alphabetically, prepare mailing envelopes, basic data entry under supervision." For older kids who can handle more complex tasks, be more detailed. Also consider having them sign a simple employment agreement (even if they're minors, it shows intent and documentation). Include their hourly rate, work schedule expectations, and basic workplace rules. This level of documentation shows the IRS you're running a real business operation, not just shifting money to avoid taxes. The key is making everything look professional and legitimate while still being age-appropriate. Your friend's audit situation is exactly why this documentation matters so much!

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Just a heads up for anyone considering this - make sure you understand the state requirements too! I implemented this strategy with my home-based marketing consulting business last year, paying my 16 and 14-year-old kids for legitimate work (social media management, data entry, client research). While the federal tax benefits worked exactly as described, I learned the hard way that some states have additional requirements for employing minors, even in family businesses. In my state, I needed to get work permits for both kids and follow specific hour restrictions during school months. Also, don't forget about workers' compensation insurance requirements - some states require it even for family employees in certain business types. I had to adjust my business insurance policy to cover them. The tax savings were definitely worth it (saved about $3,200 in taxes last year), but factor in these additional compliance costs when you're calculating the benefit. Still came out way ahead, but wished I'd known about the extra requirements upfront!

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Jayden Reed

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This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I'm just starting to research this strategy for my freelance graphic design business, and I hadn't even considered state-specific requirements for employing minors. Can I ask what state you're in? I'm in California and wondering if I should contact the Department of Labor or if there's a specific agency that handles work permits for minors in family businesses. Also, did the workers' comp insurance add much to your costs, or was it a relatively small addition to your existing policy? Thanks for sharing your real-world experience - this kind of practical insight is exactly what I need to properly plan this out!

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Diego Vargas

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Don't forget about local taxes! I'm in Pittsburgh and completely missed that I needed to pay quarterly estimated taxes to the city too. Got slapped with a penalty my first year of freelancing. Most tax software handles federal and state but often misses local obligations.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about! How did you figure out the local tax situation? Did you have to go to a city office or could you find the info online?

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Diego Vargas

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For Pittsburgh, I found everything on the city's finance department website. They have their own quarterly tax forms for self-employed people. I'd recommend checking your specific municipality's website or giving their tax office a call. The trickiest part was figuring out the correct rate to pay since some areas have different rates for residents vs. non-residents. Once I got that sorted out, the process wasn't too bad - just another form to fill out and another payment to remember each quarter.

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NeonNinja

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TurboTax and other tax software definitely handle both federal AND state taxes, but here's the catch - they don't automatically submit your quarterly estimated payments. They'll calculate what you should pay each quarter, but you still have to make those payments yourself throughout the year. At tax filing time, they'll prepare both your federal and state returns. But for quarterly estimated payments during the year, you need to handle those separately by submitting the appropriate forms to each tax authority (federal, state, local).

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I use the IRS Direct Pay website for my federal quarterly payments. Does PA have something similar for state estimates or do you have to mail checks?

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Can someone clarify the consequences if you're past the statute of limitations but you OWED money to the IRS? I'm in a similar situation where I made mistakes on older returns, but in my case I underreported some income. Getting nervous about what happens now.

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If you're past the statute of limitations (generally 3 years) and you owed money to the IRS, technically they cannot assess additional tax or initiate collection actions against you. However, there are important exceptions: There's a 6-year statute of limitations if you omitted more than 25% of your gross income. And there's no statute of limitations for fraudulent returns or if you never filed a return at all. That said, voluntarily coming forward to correct errors shows good faith, which can help if there are any questions about whether the errors were intentional. The IRS generally views deliberate tax evasion much more seriously than honest mistakes.

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I've been following this thread closely since I'm dealing with a similar situation with my 2019 and 2020 returns. One thing I want to add that hasn't been mentioned yet is the importance of checking if you qualify for any penalty relief programs. Even if you're within the statute of limitations and need to pay additional tax, the IRS has first-time penalty abatement and reasonable cause relief options that can waive penalties for honest mistakes. I discovered this when I had to amend my 2020 return - while I did owe additional tax, they waived all the penalties because I had a clean compliance history and could demonstrate reasonable cause for the error. Also, if anyone is still unsure about their specific situation, I'd recommend getting your tax transcripts from the IRS website first. They show exactly when your returns were filed and processed, which helps you calculate the exact statute of limitations dates for your amendments. It's free and gives you all the key dates you need to know.

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Nora Brooks

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also dealing with service dog expenses and had been putting off figuring out the tax implications. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the key things I need to focus on are: 1. Getting a detailed letter from my doctor explaining the medical necessity 2. Keeping meticulous records of all expenses, separating task-specific training from general care 3. Tracking mileage for all service dog-related trips 4. Calculating whether my total medical expenses (including the service dog costs) would make itemizing worthwhile One question I haven't seen addressed - does anyone know if there are any limits on how much you can deduct for service dog expenses specifically? I know medical expenses in general have the 7.5% AGI threshold, but are there any caps on the service animal portion specifically? Also, for those who have gone through audits or dealt with IRS questions about service dog deductions, what documentation proved most important? I want to make sure I'm keeping the right records from the start rather than scrambling later if questions come up.

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Chloe Wilson

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Great summary of the key points! To answer your questions - there aren't any specific caps on service dog expenses themselves. They're treated like any other medical expense, so as long as they're legitimate and properly documented, they fall under the general medical expense deduction rules (the 7.5% AGI threshold you mentioned). From what I've seen in this community, the most important documentation for audits seems to be: 1) the doctor's letter establishing medical necessity, 2) training certifications showing task-specific training, 3) detailed receipts that clearly separate service functions from general pet care, and 4) any documentation proving the dog's training is related to your specific disability. I'd also add that keeping a simple log of your dog's work activities can be helpful - it doesn't have to be exhaustive, but having some record of the tasks your dog performs can strengthen your case that this is truly a working service animal rather than a pet. The IRS seems to focus heavily on proving the medical necessity and work function during audits. Starting with good documentation habits now will definitely save you headaches later. It sounds like you're on the right track with your planning!

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Zara Ahmed

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Thank you all for this incredibly detailed discussion! As someone new to navigating service dog expenses, this has been a goldmine of information. I wanted to add one thing that my tax preparer emphasized - if you're claiming service dog expenses, make sure your dog is actually classified as a "service animal" under the ADA definition (trained to perform specific tasks for a disability) rather than an emotional support animal or therapy dog. The IRS follows the ADA definition pretty strictly for these deductions. Also, I learned that if you receive any reimbursements from insurance, disability benefits, or other sources for your service dog expenses, you need to subtract those amounts from what you can deduct. So if your health insurance covered part of the initial cost or training, that portion isn't deductible. One last tip - if you're unsure about the 7.5% AGI threshold calculation or whether itemizing makes sense, many tax software programs will automatically calculate both scenarios and tell you which saves more money. Sometimes it's worth doing a quick run-through even if you think the standard deduction will be better, just to be sure you're not missing out on savings. The documentation requirements seem strict but totally manageable if you stay organized from the start. Thanks again everyone for sharing your experiences!

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This is such a comprehensive thread - thank you everyone! As someone just starting this journey with a service dog, I'm bookmarking this entire discussion. The point about insurance reimbursements is really important and something I hadn't considered yet. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have successfully claimed these deductions, did you face any additional scrutiny from the IRS, or did they generally accept the deductions without question as long as you had proper documentation? I'm always nervous about anything that might increase audit risk, but it sounds like these are legitimate deductions that shouldn't be a problem if properly documented. Also, does anyone know if the rules are the same for service dogs that are owner-trained versus professionally trained? I'm considering both options and wondering if there are any tax implications that might influence my decision.

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Maxwell, you definitely need to report this $20K sale on your tax return. Since it's a collectible (baseball cards), any gain will be taxed as a collectible capital gain, which has a maximum rate of 28% - higher than regular capital gains. The tricky part is determining your "basis" in the cards since you don't have receipts. If you inherited them from your grandfather after he passed away, your basis would be their fair market value on the date of his death (called "stepped-up basis"). If he gave them to you while alive, your basis would be what he originally paid for them. Since you don't have documentation, you'll need to research what similar cards were selling for during the relevant time period. Look at price guides, auction records, or consult with a sports memorabilia appraiser. The IRS expects a "good faith" estimate when original records aren't available. Report the sale on Schedule D of your tax return. Even without a 1099 from the auction house, you're still required to report it - the IRS can potentially discover large bank deposits through other means. Better to be proactive and report it correctly than risk issues later.

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Noah Lee

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation - just starting to think about selling some inherited items and had no idea about the "stepped-up basis" rule. That could make a huge difference in how much tax I'd owe. Quick question though - how do you prove the fair market value on the date of death if it was several years ago? Are there specific resources the IRS accepts for establishing that value?

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Fidel Carson

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Great question, Noah! For proving fair market value on the date of death, the IRS accepts several types of documentation. Professional appraisals are the gold standard - especially for valuable collectibles. You can also use auction records from around that time period, price guides (like Beckett for sports cards), or sales of comparable items. If it's been several years, you might need to work backwards from current values and account for market changes. For sports memorabilia specifically, websites like Heritage Auctions keep historical records that can be really helpful. The key is showing you made a reasonable, good-faith effort to determine the value. Keep all your research documentation - if you ever get audited, the IRS will want to see how you arrived at your basis amount. For really valuable items (over $5,000), a formal appraisal is usually worth the cost since it provides the strongest documentation.

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Just want to add one important detail that hasn't been mentioned yet - the timing of when you sell matters for tax purposes. Since you've held these cards for years, any gain would qualify as long-term capital gains, which is good news even though collectibles have that higher 28% maximum rate. Also, keep detailed records of the auction house's commission and any other selling expenses (insurance, shipping, etc.) because these costs can be deducted from your sale proceeds when calculating your actual gain. So if you received $20K but paid $2K in fees, your actual proceeds for tax purposes would be $18K. One more thing - if this puts you in a higher tax bracket for the year, you might want to consider timing any other asset sales or tax strategies accordingly. The 28% collectibles rate only kicks in if you're already in higher tax brackets, so depending on your other income, you might pay less than that maximum rate.

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Freya Thomsen

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This is really valuable information about the selling expenses being deductible! I didn't realize auction house commissions could be subtracted from the proceeds. Does this apply to all types of selling costs, or are there specific rules about what expenses can be deducted? For example, if I had to pay for professional photos of the items for the auction listing, would that count as a deductible expense too?

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