


Ask the community...
This is such helpful information! I've been doing Uber Eats deliveries on weekends and making about $600-800 a month, and I had no idea I needed to be paying quarterly taxes or keeping track of my mileage for deductions. Reading through all these responses has been eye-opening - especially about how payment apps like Venmo and Zelle are now required to report business transactions over $600. I'm definitely going to start keeping better records of my earnings and expenses. The advice about deducting car expenses and phone usage is something I never would have thought of. Does anyone know if I can deduct things like phone chargers or a phone mount that I bought specifically for delivery driving? Also, since I sometimes grab drinks or snacks during long delivery shifts, would any of that count as a business expense? I'm also curious about the liability insurance mentioned - is that something gig workers should really be considering? My regular car insurance probably doesn't cover commercial use, but I've never thought about what happens if I get in an accident while delivering food.
Welcome to the gig economy tax reality check! š For your delivery driving, you can absolutely deduct phone chargers and mounts that you bought specifically for work - those are legitimate business expenses. Keep those receipts! However, drinks and snacks during shifts typically aren't deductible unless they're part of a business meal (like if you're meeting with a client), which doesn't really apply to delivery driving. For car expenses, you have two options: track actual expenses (gas, maintenance, insurance) and deduct the business portion, or use the standard mileage rate (it's 65.5 cents per mile for 2023). Most people find the mileage method easier - just track your delivery miles with an app like MileIQ. Regarding insurance, definitely check with your car insurance company about coverage during commercial use. Many standard policies exclude coverage when you're driving for business purposes. Some insurers offer rideshare/delivery driver coverage as an add-on, or you might need commercial coverage. It's worth the peace of mind! And yes, start making quarterly estimated tax payments if you expect to owe more than $1,000 for the year - you're likely in that territory with your income level.
Great question! I went through this exact same situation last year with my pet sitting business. The key thing to understand is that the IRS considers you self-employed once you're regularly providing services for income, regardless of how informal it feels. Since you're making $950/month ($11,400 annually), you're definitely above the $400 self-employment threshold. Here's what you need to know: **Tax Forms You'll Need:** - Schedule C (Profit or Loss from Business) - this is where you report your dog walking income and expenses - Schedule SE (Self-Employment Tax) - for the 15.3% self-employment tax - Form 1040 - your regular tax return **Quarterly Estimated Taxes:** You should start making quarterly payments using Form 1040-ES. A good rule of thumb is to set aside 25-30% of your earnings for taxes (this covers both income tax and self-employment tax). **Deductible Business Expenses:** Track everything! Dog treats, leashes, waste bags, mileage to/from clients, pet insurance if you carry it, cleaning supplies, even a portion of your phone bill if you use it to coordinate with clients. **Record Keeping:** Those Zelle screenshots are a good start, but create a simple spreadsheet tracking dates, client names, services provided, and amounts received. The IRS loves detailed records if you're ever audited. Don't panic about not setting money aside yet - just start now! You can even set up a separate savings account and automatically transfer a percentage of each payment. Better late than never, and the IRS offers payment plans if needed.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was hoping to find! The 25-30% rule for setting aside money is really helpful - I had no idea what percentage to aim for. One follow-up question: when you mention tracking mileage to/from clients, does that include the drive back home after the walk? Or just the initial drive to pick up the dog? I do a lot of back-and-forth between different clients on the same day, so I want to make sure I'm tracking everything correctly. Also, the separate savings account idea is brilliant. I'm definitely setting that up this week so I can start automatically transferring a portion of each payment. Thanks for sharing your experience - it makes this whole tax situation feel way less overwhelming!
This is a great discussion! I'm seeing multiple valid explanations here. Having worked in retail bookkeeping, I think there might be confusion between different types of taxes at play. The inventory accounting issue (COGS impact on income tax) that Fatima explained is real - keeping more inventory means less expense recognition, potentially higher taxable income. But the panic about "end of day" suggests this might actually be about personal property tax that Yara mentioned, where inventory is assessed on a specific date. What's concerning is the owner creating urgency without explaining the actual tax mechanism. If it's personal property tax, the amount is usually small compared to lost revenue from fire sales. If it's income tax planning, there are better strategies than last-minute inventory dumps. Your buddy should ask the owner to clarify exactly which tax they're concerned about and get the specific statute or tax code. That way they can calculate whether aggressive inventory reduction actually saves money or just creates unnecessary business disruption.
This is really helpful - I think you've hit on something important about getting clarity on the specific tax issue. As someone new to understanding business taxes, it seems like there are multiple moving parts here that could be causing confusion. From what everyone's shared, it sounds like the owner might be mixing up different tax concepts or maybe got bad advice somewhere along the line. The "end of day" urgency definitely suggests they think there's some kind of hard deadline, which makes the personal property tax explanation more likely than income tax planning. I'm curious - for someone trying to understand this better, are there good resources to learn about the difference between these various business tax obligations? It seems like knowing whether you're dealing with sales tax, income tax, or property tax on inventory would completely change how you approach year-end planning.
Great question about resources! For understanding business tax obligations, I'd recommend starting with IRS Publication 334 (Tax Guide for Small Business) which breaks down the different types of taxes businesses face. The Small Business Administration (SBA.gov) also has excellent free resources explaining sales tax, income tax, and property tax differences. For inventory-specific guidance, IRS Publication 538 covers accounting periods and methods, including inventory valuation. Your state's Department of Revenue website will have details about local personal property taxes on business inventory - this varies significantly by state. What I've found most helpful is that each type of tax has different deadlines and calculation methods. Sales tax is typically monthly/quarterly and based on actual sales. Income tax planning happens throughout the year with annual filing. Personal property tax is often assessed on a specific date (like January 1st) and paid annually to local jurisdictions. The key is figuring out which tax the owner is actually worried about, then you can research the specific rules and deadlines that apply. Most of the panic I've seen comes from business owners mixing up these different tax obligations or getting incomplete information from well-meaning but uninformed advisors.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Thank you for those specific publication references - I'll definitely check out IRS Publication 334 and 538. What strikes me about this whole situation is how a simple question about inventory turned into such a complex discussion about different tax types. It really highlights how easy it is for business owners to get overwhelmed or receive conflicting advice without understanding the underlying mechanics. I'm wondering if there are any red flags to watch for when someone is giving tax advice that might indicate they're mixing up these different obligations? The "end of day" panic from the original post seems like it could be one of those warning signs that someone doesn't fully understand which tax system they're dealing with.
I'm in a very similar boat - filed my amended return about 7 weeks ago for some business expense corrections I discovered while preparing this year's taxes. The waiting is definitely anxiety-inducing when you're trying to make business decisions! Based on all the experiences shared here, I'm now planning for the 20+ week timeline that several people mentioned. What's really helped me is reaching out to my accountant to double-check that I included all the necessary supporting documentation with my amendment. She mentioned that incomplete documentation is one of the biggest causes of delays, especially with business deduction corrections. I also started looking into a small business line of credit as a backup plan for my equipment needs - the interest cost is worth the peace of mind of not being dependent on IRS timing. It's frustrating that amended returns take so much longer than regular ones, but at least this thread has given me much more realistic expectations. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences and timelines!
@Vince Eh Your accountant s'point about incomplete documentation is so important! I m'actually thinking of having my CPA review my amendment before I file next time, even though it means extra cost upfront. The line of credit backup plan is really smart too - I keep seeing people mention alternative financing but wasn t'sure what options were realistic for small businesses. Do you mind sharing what kind of terms you were able to get? I m'wondering if it s'worth exploring that route myself rather than being stuck waiting on the IRS timeline for my next big purchase.
I'm dealing with the same situation right now - filed my amended return 9 weeks ago for some business deduction corrections and the waiting is killing me! What's been really helpful reading through all these responses is realizing I need to completely change my business planning approach. I was naively expecting maybe 8-10 weeks max, but clearly I need to plan for 20+ weeks like many of you have experienced. I've already started conversations with my suppliers about extended payment terms, and I'm also looking into a business credit line as backup funding. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone here tried filing their amendment electronically vs. paper? I filed mine electronically but I'm wondering if that actually makes any difference in processing time, or if they all end up in the same manual review queue anyway. This thread has been incredibly valuable for setting realistic expectations, so thank you all for sharing your experiences and timelines!
@Ruby Garcia From what I ve'researched, electronic vs. paper filing doesn t'seem to make a meaningful difference for amended returns unfortunately. They all end up requiring manual review regardless of how they re'submitted. I filed mine electronically too thinking it would be faster, but I ve'seen people report similar 18-20 week timelines for both methods. The IRS website mentions that even electronic 1040-X forms go through the same processing steps as paper ones. Your plan to extend supplier payment terms and set up a credit line sounds really smart - I wish I had thought ahead like that instead of just hoping for the best with the IRS timeline!
Great question about the NIIT! The Net Investment Income Tax is technically separate from FICA taxes, even though it does help fund Medicare. It's imposed under a different section of the tax code (Section 1411) and has different rules and thresholds than regular FICA taxes. The key differences: - FICA taxes apply to earned income (wages, self-employment) with no income limits for Medicare portion - NIIT applies to investment income (capital gains, dividends, etc.) but only kicks in above certain income thresholds - FICA has both employer and employee portions for W-2 workers; NIIT is paid entirely by the taxpayer So while both help fund Medicare, they're administered as separate taxes with different rules. The NIIT is more like an additional income tax on investment income for high earners rather than a true payroll/FICA tax. For most people discussing capital gains taxes, the main point remains: no regular FICA, but high earners need to factor in the potential 3.8% NIIT surcharge.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who just started investing seriously this year, I had the exact same confusion about which taxes apply to capital gains. One thing I'd add for other newcomers - don't forget about tax-loss harvesting if you have any losing positions. You can offset your capital gains with capital losses, and if you have more losses than gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income per year (with excess losses carrying forward to future years). This strategy can be especially useful for managing your tax liability on those $8,500 gains you mentioned. Even if you don't have losses this year, it's worth keeping in mind for future tax planning. Also, make sure to keep detailed records of your cost basis (what you originally paid) for all your investments. Your brokerage should provide this, but it's good to have your own records as backup since this directly affects how much gain you'll owe taxes on.
This is such great advice about tax-loss harvesting! I wish I had known about this earlier in the year. I actually have some positions that are down and was just holding onto them hoping they'd recover. Quick question - if I sell losing positions to offset my gains, is there a time limit on when I need to do this? Like do I need to realize the losses in the same tax year as the gains, or can I carry them forward even if I haven't sold the losing positions yet? Also, you mentioned the $3,000 deduction against ordinary income - does that mean if I have $5,000 in losses and $2,000 in gains, I'd have $3,000 in net losses that I can deduct from my regular W-2 income this year?
KhalilStar
As someone who works in college admissions, I wanted to add a few money-saving tips that might help offset some of these application costs that can't be covered by 529 funds: 1. Fee waivers - Many colleges offer application fee waivers for students who qualify based on income or participation in programs like free/reduced lunch. Don't assume you won't qualify - the income thresholds are often higher than expected. 2. Apply early decision/early action where possible - Some schools waive application fees for early applicants or offer reduced fees. 3. Visit virtual campus tours first - Most schools now offer comprehensive virtual experiences that can help you narrow down which schools are worth the expense of an in-person visit. 4. Look into SAT/ACT fee waivers - Low-income students can get up to 4 free SAT attempts plus free score reports to colleges. 5. Some schools participate in "application blitzes" or have special free application periods - usually announced on their social media or websites. While it's disappointing that 529 plans can't cover these pre-enrollment costs, there are definitely ways to reduce the financial burden. Every dollar saved on applications is more money available for actual college expenses!
0 coins
Amina Diop
ā¢This is incredibly helpful advice from an admissions perspective! I had no idea about application fee waivers or that some schools have free application periods. The virtual campus tour suggestion is especially smart - we were planning to visit 8-10 schools in person which would have been a huge expense. Do you happen to know if the fee waiver eligibility is consistent across schools, or does each college have different income requirements? Also, are there specific times of year when schools are more likely to offer those free application promotions? This could really help us strategize which schools to prioritize for visits and applications while keeping costs manageable.
0 coins
Savanna Franklin
ā¢Fee waiver eligibility does vary by school, but most use similar guidelines based on family income or participation in federal assistance programs. Generally, if you qualify for free/reduced lunch or have a family income under $50,000-$65,000 (depending on family size), you'll likely qualify at most institutions. Some schools are more generous and extend waivers to families earning up to $100,000. For timing, I'd recommend checking college websites in late summer/early fall when they announce their application seasons. Many schools offer free application weeks during National College Application Week (usually in October) or during their own promotional periods. Private schools sometimes waive fees during yield protection periods in late fall/winter to encourage more applications. Pro tip: if you're unsure about fee waiver eligibility, just ask! Most admissions offices are happy to work with families on application costs. The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised how flexible they can be, especially if you're a strong candidate they want to recruit.
0 coins
Manny Lark
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm in a similar situation with my son who's a junior, and I was definitely planning to use 529 funds for application fees before reading this. It's disappointing that these pre-enrollment costs don't qualify, but I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and workarounds. One question I haven't seen addressed: what about test prep courses or tutoring? My son is planning to take a prep course for the SAT - would that qualify as a 529 expense since it's education-related, or does the same "pre-enrollment" rule apply? I'm assuming it doesn't qualify, but want to make sure before I budget for it separately. Also, has anyone dealt with National Merit Scholarship applications or other scholarship application fees? I'm wondering if those fall into the same non-qualified category. Thanks again to everyone who's shared their knowledge - this has saved me from making some expensive mistakes!
0 coins