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Quick question - has anyone dealt with selling shares that are held in an LLC taxed as an S-Corp? I'm getting conflicting advice on whether the installment method can be used in that scenario.
Yes, you can use the installment method when selling shares of an S-Corporation. The key is that you're selling your ownership interest, not assets inside the company. The installment method works for most capital assets, including S-Corp shares. Report it on Form 6252 and then carry the information to Schedule D.
Thanks, that's really helpful. My accountant mentioned something about "hot assets" potentially complicating things, but sounds like that's more relevant to partnership sales rather than S-Corp stock?
This is a great question that many people don't realize until they're in the middle of it! One important thing to add to the excellent advice already given - make sure you keep detailed records of ALL payments as they come in throughout the year. Create a simple spreadsheet tracking each payment date, amount, and which milestone it corresponds to. Also, consider setting aside 25-30% of each payment for taxes (depending on your tax bracket). Since you're receiving money throughout the year, it's easy to spend it and then get hit with a big tax bill. I learned this the hard way with my first installment sale - ended up scrambling to find cash for quarterly estimated payments. One more tip: if any of your original shares qualify for QSBS (Qualified Small Business Stock), you could potentially exclude up to $10 million or 10x your basis from federal taxes. Definitely worth checking if your company was a C-Corp with gross assets under $50 million when the stock was issued.
This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! The 25-30% savings tip is something I definitely wouldn't have thought of. Quick question - when you mention QSBS qualification, how do I find out if my shares qualify? Is there specific documentation I should be looking for from when I originally received the shares? I got mine about 8 years ago as part of an early employee package, so I'm not sure what records I still have from back then.
Military spouse here! Step 1: Calculate your taxes both ways before deciding. We did MFS last year because my husband was deployed to a combat zone (tax-free income) while I had regular taxable income. Step 2: Document who paid what - we keep separate accounts for this reason. Step 3: If using MFS, each claim your portion of mortgage interest on Schedule A. Step 4: File before the April 15th deadline - it's coming up fast! The mortgage interest split was actually straightforward on our tax software. Just had to enter the 1098 information and then specify what percentage each person paid.
One more question - did you both itemize deductions, or did one of you take the standard deduction? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth itemizing for just the mortgage interest.
@Dmitry Volkov No issues with the IRS at all! We just kept good records showing our joint account statements and documented that we split everything 50/50. For your other questions @Zoe Dimitriou - we both had to itemize since you can t'mix standard and itemized when filing MFS. We didn t'submit extra documentation with our returns, but kept everything in case of questions later. The combat zone exclusion really made MFS worth it for us - saved about $2,400 compared to MFJ. Just make sure to run both scenarios through your tax software first!
Great question! As a military family myself, I can confirm you absolutely can file separately with a joint mortgage. The key is documenting who actually paid the mortgage interest. Since you're both on the loan, you'll split the 1098 interest based on actual payments made. If paying from a joint account, it's typically 50/50 unless you can prove otherwise with bank records. For military families, MFS can make sense in several scenarios: different state residency situations during PCS moves, combat pay exclusions, income-based student loan repayments, or when one spouse has significant miscellaneous deductions. However, remember both spouses must choose the same deduction method (both standard or both itemize). I'd strongly recommend calculating both MFJ and MFS scenarios before deciding. Military-specific tax software like FreeTaxUSA Military or TurboTax Military can help you compare both filing statuses easily. Also consider consulting with a tax professional who understands military tax situations - many bases offer free tax prep services that are familiar with these complexities.
This is really helpful! I'm new to military tax situations and had no idea about the combat pay exclusion benefits. Quick question - when you mention "both spouses must choose the same deduction method," does that mean if I itemize to claim the mortgage interest, my husband also has to itemize even if his deductions are minimal? Also, are there any specific forms or documentation we should keep beyond just the bank statements showing joint account payments?
Be careful about calculating your exact gain! I made a huge mistake when selling my house last year. Your gain isn't just (selling price - purchase price). The actual formula is: Selling price - Selling expenses (realtor fees, etc.) - Purchase price - Purchase expenses (closing costs you paid when buying) - Capital improvements during ownership = Your actual gain I initially thought I had a $280k gain after the exclusion, but after properly accounting for $12k in selling costs, $8k in purchase costs, and about $65k in documented improvements, my taxable gain was only $195k. That saved me thousands in both capital gains tax and NIIT!
This is such good advice! I almost made the same mistake. Does anyone know if regular maintenance counts as capital improvements? Like replacing a water heater or fixing the roof?
Great question! Generally, regular maintenance like fixing a broken water heater or patching a roof leak doesn't count as a capital improvement - those are just repairs to maintain the property's current condition. However, if you completely replaced the roof or upgraded to a high-efficiency HVAC system, those would typically qualify as capital improvements since they add value or extend the property's useful life. The IRS distinction is whether it's a repair (maintaining current condition) versus an improvement (adding value/extending life). Keep detailed records either way - sometimes the line can be blurry and it's worth discussing with a tax professional!
Thank you everyone for this incredibly detailed discussion! As someone who's been stressing about this exact situation, this thread has been a goldmine of information. I want to emphasize something that Miguel mentioned about calculating your actual gain - I see so many people (including myself initially) making the mistake of thinking it's just selling price minus what you paid. The reality is that your basis includes not just your original purchase price, but also: - Closing costs when you bought - Major capital improvements (kitchen remodels, new roofs, HVAC systems, etc.) - Selling expenses (realtor commissions, title fees, etc.) I've been keeping a spreadsheet of all my home improvements over the years, but after reading this thread I realized I forgot about my original closing costs from 9 years ago. Just found those documents and it's another $7,200 I can add to my basis! For anyone in a similar situation, I'd strongly recommend gathering ALL your documentation before panicking about the tax implications. Between the $250k/$500k exclusion and properly calculating your actual basis, your taxable gain might be much lower than you initially think. Also planning to try that taxr.ai tool that Giovanni and Dylan mentioned - seems like it could help me organize all this information properly before I meet with my tax preparer.
This is such a helpful summary, Paolo! I'm actually in the early stages of considering selling my home next year and had no idea about including original closing costs in the basis calculation. That's potentially thousands of dollars I could have overlooked. One thing I'm curious about - when you mention keeping a spreadsheet of home improvements, do you also keep all the actual receipts and invoices? I've done some major work over the years but I'm worried I might not have kept all the documentation. How detailed do the records need to be for the IRS? Also, has anyone here actually been audited on a home sale? I'm wondering how thorough they get with verifying improvement costs and whether estimates or partial documentation would be acceptable in some cases.
I've seen this happen with TurboTax plenty of times. The software is just following the tax code, which says you need to pay throughout the year. What most people dont know is that your inheritance itself isnt taxable income! But if you sold investments or property that you inherited, the gains are taxable. And there's something called "step-up in basis" where inherited assets get valued at the date of death, not the original purchase price. So only gains after that point are taxable. Check if maybe you sold some stocks or something after inheriting them? That would explain the capital gains tax. But either way, the penalty is about WHEN you paid, not IF you paid enough total.
You're right! After digging deeper, I realized the taxable event was selling some of the stocks I inherited later in the year. And I definitely didn't understand the quarterly payment requirement. I just made my Q1 estimated payment for 2024 to avoid running into this problem again. Thanks everyone for all the helpful explanations!
Great thread everyone! I'm dealing with a similar situation and this has been super helpful. One thing I want to add is that you can also use Form 2210 to request a waiver of the underpayment penalty if you had reasonable cause - like a sudden change in income, casualty loss, or other circumstances beyond your control. Also, for anyone making estimated payments, remember that the IRS allows you to pay online through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System) or IRS Direct Pay. Just make sure to keep records of when you made each payment since the timing is so important for avoiding penalties. The safe harbor rules mentioned earlier are really key - if your AGI last year was under $150k, you just need to pay 100% of last year's tax liability through withholding and estimated payments to avoid any penalty, regardless of how much you actually owe this year.
This is really helpful! I'm new to dealing with estimated taxes and didn't know about Form 2210 for penalty waivers. Just to clarify - if I had a W-2 job all year but then got a big freelance contract in December that created a tax liability, would that count as a "sudden change in income" that might qualify for reasonable cause? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth filing the form or just paying the penalty since it's probably not that much.
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My company did this to me last year. Turned out they had me listed as living in Nevada (no state income tax) when I actually live in California (big state income tax). Had to pay almost $3k at tax time. Make sure u check ur address on file with HR!!
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Nia Watson
ā¢This happened to me too! But mine was a WFH situation where I moved to a different state and my employer kept withholding for my old state. Such a mess to untangle.
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CosmicCommander
This is definitely stressful but you're not alone - this happens more often than you'd think! The empty state tax box does mean no state taxes were withheld all year. First thing I'd do is check your final paystub from 2024 to confirm the year-to-date state withholding shows $0.00. A few things to consider: 1) Double-check that your employer has your correct home address on file - sometimes they withhold for the wrong state or no state if there's an address mix-up, 2) Look into whether your state offers any payment plan options if the amount is large, 3) Definitely get this fixed with payroll ASAP for 2025 so you don't face this again. Also worth noting - if this was your employer's error and not something you requested, you might be able to avoid underpayment penalties by explaining the situation to your state tax department. Document everything in case you need to appeal any penalties later!
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Thais Soares
ā¢Thanks for the detailed breakdown! I'm curious about the underpayment penalty part - how do you actually go about explaining this to the state tax department? Do you need specific documentation from your employer saying it was their mistake, or is showing the W-2 with the empty box usually enough proof that nothing was withheld?
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