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Hey KhalilStar! I went through this exact same situation last year. TurboTax has definitely gotten more restrictive with their advance program - it's frustrating because they don't really explain the changes upfront. Since you already filed and got accepted, your best bet might be to just track your refund status closely. The IRS has actually been processing returns faster this season compared to last year. You can check "Where's My Refund" daily, and since you filed on Jan 24th, you should hopefully see movement soon. I know it's tough when you're counting on those funds, especially as a recent grad. If you absolutely need cash now, maybe look into your bank's options for small personal loans rather than trying to switch tax services at this point. Hang in there! šŖ
Thanks Dana! That's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing. I've been checking Where's My Refund obsessively since getting accepted, but it's still just showing "processing" with no bars filled in yet. Good point about bank personal loans - I hadn't considered that option. My credit union might have something with better terms than these sketchy refund loan services people have mentioned. Really appreciate the encouragement too, this whole post-graduation financial situation has been more stressful than I expected! š
I'm sorry to hear you're dealing with this! As someone who works in financial services, I can tell you that TurboTax and other tax prep companies have definitely tightened their advance criteria this year due to regulatory changes and risk management concerns. The fact that you got it before but not now doesn't reflect anything negative about your financial situation - they're just being more conservative across the board. Since you've already filed and been accepted, I'd honestly recommend just waiting for your actual refund rather than trying to start over with another service. The IRS has been processing returns much faster this season - most people are seeing their refunds within 10-14 business days for direct deposit. Given that you filed on Jan 24th, you should hopefully see movement soon on the "Where's My Refund" tool. If you're in a real bind financially, definitely avoid those predatory "refund loan" services that others have warned about. Your bank or credit union would be a much safer option for a small short-term loan if absolutely necessary. Best of luck with everything, and congrats on graduating! š
Don't feel embarrassed about this at all! Getting EIN numbers from daycare providers is something tons of parents struggle with every tax season. Here's a simple approach that's worked for me: First, check any paperwork you received when you enrolled - sometimes the EIN is buried in contracts or enrollment forms. Also look at any receipts or invoices they've given you throughout the year. If you can't find it there, calling is totally fine and they expect it. You can say something like: "Hi, I'm filing my taxes and need your EIN or tax ID number to claim the child care expenses for my child [child's name] who attended your program this year." Most daycare centers are super used to this request, especially right now during tax season. They'll either have it ready or know exactly who to connect you with. Some might even email it to you afterward so you have it in writing. You're being responsible by claiming this credit - it can save you a significant amount on your taxes! Take a deep breath, you've got this. The call will probably take less than 5 minutes and then you'll be all set.
This is such reassuring advice! I really appreciate you mentioning to check the enrollment paperwork first - I completely forgot that I might already have this information somewhere in my files. Sometimes the simplest solutions are right in front of us! Your script for calling is perfect too. It's direct but polite, and knowing that they're expecting these calls during tax season makes me feel so much less anxious about it. I was worried I'd be bothering them or that it would be a complicated request, but it sounds like this is just routine business for them. The reminder about how much this credit can save is motivating too! Sometimes I get so focused on the stress of the process that I forget why I'm doing it in the first place. A few minutes of discomfort for potentially hundreds of dollars in savings is definitely worth it. Thanks for the encouragement - I'm going to tackle this today!
I just want to echo what everyone else has said - you're definitely not alone in feeling anxious about this! I went through the exact same thing last year and was so worried about making those calls. One thing that really helped me was realizing that daycare providers deal with this request literally dozens of times during tax season. The person answering the phone has probably already answered this question 10 times that day! They're not going to think you're unprepared or difficult - it's just part of their routine. Also, if it helps with the anxiety, you could even practice what you're going to say out loud first. Something like "Hi, I'm completing my tax return and need your EIN for the Child and Dependent Care Credit." That's it - short, simple, and to the point. The worst part is the anticipation. Once you make that first call, you'll realize it's actually much easier than you built it up to be in your head. And think about how relieved you'll feel once you have both numbers and can finish your taxes! You're so close to being done with this whole thing. š
Another option: if your spouse was from a country that has a tax treaty with the US, check if there are any special provisions that might help. My wife is from Canada and there were specific rules that applied to our situation when she got her green card.
Thanks for bringing this up! My wife is from Japan - do you know if they have a tax treaty with the US that might have special provisions?
Yes, the US has a tax treaty with Japan! Article 4 of the US-Japan tax treaty has tie-breaker rules that can help determine residency status, and there are provisions about avoiding double taxation. You might want to look into whether any treaty benefits apply to your situation, especially if your wife had income in Japan before getting her green card. The treaty could potentially provide relief from double taxation on that income. I'd recommend checking IRS Publication 519 which covers tax treaties, or consulting with a tax professional who's familiar with US-Japan treaty provisions.
I went through this exact same situation two years ago when my husband got his green card in July. The key thing to understand is that without making the 6013(h) election, your wife would be considered a "dual-status alien" for 2024 - meaning she'd be a non-resident for the months before getting her green card and a resident afterward. This creates a really complicated filing situation where you'd have to file separately, and she'd need to file a dual-status return (which is basically two tax returns stapled together). The 6013(h) election lets you treat her as a US resident for the ENTIRE year, so you can file jointly and simplify everything. A few important things to keep in mind: First, once you make this election, you can't revoke it for that tax year. Second, as others mentioned, ALL of her worldwide income for the full year becomes taxable in the US. Third, you'll need to attach a statement to your return specifically stating you're making the 6013(h) election. We found it was definitely worth it in our case because the tax savings from filing jointly more than offset the additional income inclusion. But definitely run the numbers both ways to be sure!
This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm in a similar situation where my spouse got her green card in September. One question - when you say "run the numbers both ways," do you have any recommendations for tax software or tools that can handle the dual-status calculation? I've been struggling to find something that can properly model the non-resident portion vs resident portion comparison to see if the 6013(h) election makes sense for us.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a freelance graphic designer who receives payments from multiple clients, and I've always been confused about why some send me 1099-NECs and others don't. Now I understand it's based on how they paid me, not just the amount. Most of my regular clients pay through their business credit cards, which explains why I rarely get 1099-NECs from them even when they've paid me well over $600 for the year. But I do get them from the few clients who pay by check or ACH transfer. One thing I want to emphasize for other contractors reading this - even though you might not receive 1099 forms for card payments, you absolutely still need to track and report ALL your income. I use a simple spreadsheet to log every payment with the client name, amount, date, and payment method. This has saved me during tax prep since I can't rely on just adding up the 1099s I receive. Thanks everyone for clarifying these rules - it's going to make my bookkeeping so much easier knowing what to expect!
This is so helpful to hear from the contractor perspective! I'm also a freelancer (web development) and had the same confusion about inconsistent 1099 forms. Your spreadsheet approach is smart - I've been using a similar system but wasn't tracking payment methods specifically. Going to add that column now since it explains so much about which clients send forms and which don't. It's reassuring to know this is normal and based on payment method rather than the client just being disorganized with their paperwork! Question for you - do you ever have issues with clients who want to pay by card but then ask YOU to cover the processing fees? I've had a few try that and wasn't sure if it affects the 1099 reporting rules at all.
@KylieRose That's such a great point about tracking payment methods! I'm also a contractor (marketing consultant) and never realized why my 1099s were so inconsistent until reading this thread. To answer @Mateo Perez s'question about processing fees - I ve'dealt with this too and it doesn t'affect the 1099 reporting rules. Whether the client pays the fees or you absorb them, it s'still considered a card payment so no 1099-NEC would be required from the client. Just make sure you re'factoring those fees into your pricing if you re'covering them! I m'definitely going to start tracking payment methods in my records now. It ll'help me better understand my cash flow and explain the 1099 discrepancies to my accountant. Thanks for sharing your system!
This has been such an eye-opening discussion! As someone who's been handling contractor payments for my small consulting firm for the past few years, I had no idea about the payment method distinction for 1099-NEC requirements. I've been diligently issuing 1099-NECs to every contractor we paid over $600, regardless of how we paid them. Looking back at last year's records, I probably sent out about 12 unnecessary forms to contractors we paid exclusively through our business credit card. No wonder some of them seemed confused when they received the forms! This is going to save me so much time and paperwork going forward. I'm definitely going to start being more intentional about payment methods - using our business credit card whenever possible for the convenience factor alone. One follow-up question though - for contractors who prefer check payments (some of the older folks I work with aren't comfortable with electronic payments), I assume there's no way around the 1099-NEC requirement if they exceed $600, correct? The payment method exemption only applies to cards and qualifying third-party processors? Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread - this is exactly the kind of practical tax advice that's so hard to find elsewhere!
You're absolutely correct! If contractors prefer check payments, there's no way around the 1099-NEC requirement if you pay them over $600 in a calendar year. The payment method exemption only applies to credit cards, debit cards, and qualified third-party payment networks that issue their own 1099-K forms. For those contractors who prefer checks, you'll still need to collect their W-9 forms and issue 1099-NECs by the January 31st deadline. Same goes for ACH transfers, wire transfers, or cash payments - basically any payment method where a third-party processor isn't handling the 1099-K reporting. I totally understand the convenience factor of using credit cards whenever possible! Plus you get the added benefits of better record-keeping, potential rewards points, and easier expense tracking. For contractors who are hesitant about electronic payments, you might consider explaining that many payment processors now offer instant transfers or next-day deposits, which can actually be faster than waiting for checks to clear. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding these rules - it's amazing how many business owners (myself included until recently) didn't know about the payment method distinction!
Alejandro Castro
I actually work for a company that received like 30 unnecessary 1099s last year because we're an S-corp! It doesn't hurt us really, but it does create extra reconciliation work. One thing nobody mentioned is the state reporting requirements. Some states require you to file 1099 information with them separately from the IRS filing. If you're over-filing 1099s, you might create extra work for yourself on the state side too.
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Monique Byrd
ā¢Do you just ignore the incorrect 1099s? Or do you have to do something specific when you get one as an S-corp?
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Sarah Jones
Great question about over-filing! I made this exact mistake my first year in business and learned some valuable lessons. While there's no IRS penalty for sending unnecessary 1099s, there are a few practical considerations: 1. **Vendor confusion**: Some businesses will contact you asking why they received a 1099 when they're exempt, which creates extra correspondence. 2. **Your own tracking**: If you over-file this year, make sure to update your vendor classification system so you don't repeat the same mistakes next year. 3. **State implications**: Some states have their own 1099 reporting requirements, so over-filing federally might mean over-filing at the state level too. That said, your "better safe than sorry" approach isn't terrible - just make sure you're collecting proper W-9 forms going forward so you can classify vendors correctly. The most important thing is not missing required 1099s, which can result in actual penalties of $50-$280 per form depending on how late you are. One tip: keep a simple spreadsheet tracking each vendor's tax classification from their W-9 so you don't have to figure this out from scratch every year!
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Landon Flounder
ā¢This is such helpful advice! I'm curious about the penalty amounts you mentioned - are those $50-$280 penalties per missed 1099, or is there some kind of scaling based on how many you miss total? I have about 15 vendors I need to send 1099s to this year and want to make sure I understand the potential cost if I mess up the timing. Also, do you happen to know if there's a grace period or if the IRS is pretty strict about the January 31st deadline? I'm cutting it close this year and trying to figure out if being a few days late is a big deal or not.
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