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Thanks everyone for the help. I'm going to pull the LLC's Articles of Organization and use that exact name on the UCC-1. Better safe than sorry with $280K in collateral at stake.
If you want to double-check before filing, the Certana.ai tool I mentioned earlier can verify the name match in seconds. Just upload both documents and it flags any discrepancies.
I might try that - sounds like it could save me some anxiety about whether I got the section 9-102 definitions right.
I'm new to UCC filings and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been struggling with a similar situation where my client has an LLC but does business under a completely different trade name. Based on what everyone is saying, it sounds like I should ignore the trade name entirely and just use whatever is on the Articles of Organization filed with the Secretary of State. Is that correct? I don't want to make the same mistake others have mentioned about using the wrong name and having to refile. The section 9-102 definitions are pretty overwhelming when you're just starting out.
Yes, you've got it exactly right! Welcome to the UCC filing world - it can be intimidating at first but you're asking the right questions. For LLCs, always use the exact name as it appears in the Articles of Organization filed with the Secretary of State. The trade name, DBA, or "doing business as" name should be completely ignored for UCC-1 purposes. Section 9-102(a)(28) defines "debtor" for registered organizations as the entity whose name is stated in the public organic record, which for an LLC would be the Articles of Organization. Don't let the complexity of 9-102 overwhelm you - once you understand this core principle about using the registered organization name, most UCC filings become much more straightforward.
As someone new to procurement myself, I found it helpful to think of UCC filings like a public registry of who has "dibs" on a company's stuff if they can't pay their bills. The key insight from this thread is that having UCC filings is totally normal - it's like seeing a mortgage on someone's house. What matters is understanding the details: who's the lender, what assets are covered, and how recent the filings are. I'm definitely going to start incorporating UCC searches into my supplier evaluation process, especially for larger contracts or advance payments.
That's a really good analogy with the mortgage! I'm also pretty new to this whole procurement world and the "dibs" explanation makes it click for me. I was getting overwhelmed thinking I needed to become a UCC expert overnight, but it sounds like the main thing is just understanding what normal vs. concerning patterns look like. Definitely going to bookmark this thread - so much practical advice here.
This has been such an educational thread! I'm also relatively new to financial due diligence and had no idea UCC filings were so routine. The car loan analogy really helped it click - it's just secured lending, not a sign of distress. One question though: when you're doing these UCC searches for supplier evaluation, do you typically look at the filings in isolation or combine them with other financial health indicators? I'm wondering if there's a more comprehensive approach to supplier risk assessment that incorporates UCC data alongside credit reports, payment history, etc.
Great question! From what I'm learning in this thread and my own experience, UCC filings are definitely just one piece of the puzzle. I usually combine them with D&B credit reports, payment terms they're requesting, and how long they've been in business. If I see recent UCC filings covering "all assets" plus they're asking for extended payment terms or seem to be slow-paying other vendors, that's when I get more concerned. But a established company with normal bank UCC filings and good payment history? That's just standard business. The key is looking at the whole financial picture, not just isolated data points.
Update: Got the UCC-1 filed successfully with the Delaware Division of Corporations. The debtor name verification was key - made sure it matched their certificate of incorporation exactly. Thanks everyone for the advice!
Awesome! Another successful filing. Always feels good when everything goes according to plan.
Congrats Sofia! It's always nerve-wracking the first time you handle multi-state UCC filings, but you nailed it. The Delaware Division of Corporations is actually pretty efficient once you get the debtor name right. For anyone else reading this thread - this is a perfect example of why the "state of organization" rule exists. It creates certainty and prevents the nightmare of trying to figure out which state has priority when collateral moves around. Keep this experience in your back pocket for future filings!
Been filing UCCs for 15 years and the fee creep is real. What used to cost $25 now runs $75-150 depending on service level and state. Budget at least $100 for any UCC filing these days to avoid surprises.
Inflation hits government fees hard too. Most states haven't updated their systems in years so they're trying to recover costs through higher filing fees.
just filed my first ucc last month and got hit with fees I didn't expect either. the online system doesn't make it very clear what you're selecting for service levels. ended up paying like $95 when I thought it would be $30
Same experience here as a newcomer to UCC filings. The system should really show a running total as you select options instead of surprising you at the end. Would help people like us budget properly for our first equipment loans.
Totally agree! As someone new to this whole UCC process, I was shocked when I got to the payment screen and saw fees I hadn't anticipated. A real-time fee calculator would be so helpful - especially for small business owners who are already stressed about loan timelines and paperwork. The lack of transparency makes an already complex process even more intimidating for newcomers.
Vincent Bimbach
Just to close the loop on this - I ended up filing with just the tangible collateral description (equipment and inventory) and ignored the copyright notice language completely. The filing was accepted without any issues. Thanks everyone for the guidance!
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Norah Quay
•Perfect example of how overthinking can complicate simple filings. Good job keeping it straightforward.
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Leo McDonald
•Thanks for reporting back. This thread will be helpful for others dealing with similar security agreement language.
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Kara Yoshida
Great to see this resolved successfully! This is exactly the kind of practical guidance that makes this community so valuable. For anyone else dealing with similar issues, I'd recommend creating a simple checklist: 1) Verify debtor name against state records, 2) Extract collateral description from the security agreement's actual collateral section (not the boilerplate), 3) Double-check secured party info. Everything else is usually just legal fluff that doesn't affect the UCC filing requirements.
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Freya Pedersen
•This checklist approach is really helpful! I'm new to UCC filings and was getting overwhelmed by all the different clauses in security agreements. Breaking it down to those three basic steps makes it much more manageable. Do you have any other tips for newcomers trying to distinguish between what matters for the filing versus what's just protective language?
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