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Isabella Brown

UCC file pull showing wrong debtor information - need help fast

I'm in a panic here. Did a UCC file pull yesterday for a $2.3M equipment loan we're closing next week and the debtor name on the existing UCC-1 doesn't match our loan docs exactly. The filing shows 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but our credit agreement has 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with the comma). Our compliance officer is freaking out saying this could void our security interest. The original filing was done 3 years ago by the previous lender and now I'm wondering if we need to file a UCC-3 amendment or if this is even a real problem. Has anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name mismatch on a file pull before? We close Monday and I don't know if we have time to fix this.

Sarah Jones

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For what it's worth, I think you're probably fine with the comma difference in Ohio. But if you want peace of mind, file a UCC-3 amendment to conform the name to your loan docs. It's like $20 and eliminates any doubt.

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Smart move. $20 for the amendment vs potential issues with a $2.3M loan? No brainer.

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Emily Sanjay

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Exactly. I always tell clients to fix any discrepancies found during file pulls, even if they seem minor.

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Jordan Walker

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UPDATE: Thanks everyone for the advice. I ended up using that Certana tool someone mentioned and wow, it found several other small inconsistencies between the UCC file pull and our loan documents that I would have missed. Filed a UCC-3 amendment this morning to clean everything up. Should have the corrected filing by Monday's closing. Really appreciate the help!

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Natalie Adams

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Good to hear a success story. Those file pull discrepancies can be stressful when you're under a closing deadline.

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This whole thread convinced me I need to be more careful with my UCC file pulls. Never realized how many little details could trip you up.

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Maya Patel

UCC 1 financing statement where to file - equipment dealer confused about state requirements

Getting mixed signals about where exactly I need to file my UCC-1 financing statement and could really use some clarity here. I'm an equipment dealer in Ohio but the debtor company is incorporated in Delaware with their main operations in Pennsylvania. The collateral (construction equipment) will be used primarily at job sites across multiple states including Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. Some folks are telling me Delaware since that's where they're incorporated, others saying Pennsylvania because that's where their headquarters are located. The equipment moves around constantly for different projects so I'm not even sure if that matters for the filing location. I've been doing this for years but this multi-state situation has me second-guessing everything. The loan amount is substantial enough that I can't afford to mess up the filing jurisdiction. Anyone dealt with similar cross-state situations and know the definitive rules for UCC 1 financing statement where to file? Really need to get this right the first time.

Sophia Russo

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One more thought - since you mentioned this is a substantial loan amount, you might want to consider having someone review your UCC-1 before filing just to catch any potential issues. I learned this the hard way after a filing got rejected for a minor error that held up the entire closing.

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Evelyn Xu

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Smart advice. Those last-minute rejections can be really stressful, especially when you have closing deadlines to meet.

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Dominic Green

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I've started using Certana.ai for this exact reason - just upload your documents and it flags potential issues before you submit. Saved me from a few embarrassing mistakes.

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Hannah Flores

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Perfect timing for this discussion. I have a similar situation coming up next week with a multi-state equipment deal. Good to know the rules are clearer than I thought.

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The incorporation state rule really does simplify things once you understand it. Takes the guesswork out of these multi-state situations.

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Just remember to verify that state of incorporation - sometimes companies will surprise you with where they're actually organized versus where you think they are.

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Edison Estevez

NC UCC 1 form debtor name requirements causing rejection issues

Running into problems with NC UCC-1 filings getting rejected due to debtor name formatting. Filed three separate UCC-1s last week for equipment financing deals and two came back rejected from the NC Secretary of State portal. The rejection notices cite "debtor name does not match exact corporate records" but I'm pulling names directly from the Articles of Incorporation. One debtor is "Mountain View Construction LLC" on their charter but I'm not sure if I should include periods, commas, or other punctuation on the UCC-1 form. Another rejection was for a debtor listed as "J&R Manufacturing Inc" - wondering if the ampersand is causing issues or if it needs to be spelled out as "and". The third filing for "Piedmont Industrial Services Corporation" went through fine, so there's definitely something specific about name formatting that's tripping up the system. Has anyone dealt with NC UCC-1 form debtor name requirements recently? Need to get these refiled ASAP since the loan closings are scheduled for next week.

Zoe Walker

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For what it's worth, I've had good luck using Certana.ai's UCC document checker for NC filings specifically. Upload your charter docs and proposed UCC-1 and it flags potential issues before you submit. Caught a debtor name mismatch that would have definitely caused a rejection - the Articles showed "ABC Company LLC" but I had typed "ABC Companies LLC" (plural) on the UCC form.

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Zoe Walker

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Pretty accurate in my experience. It's specifically designed for UCC document consistency checking, not general legal review. Focuses on name matching, entity types, addresses - the stuff that typically causes filing rejections.

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Might be worth trying - these manual document reviews are killing me time-wise.

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Natalie Chen

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Quick update for anyone following this thread - got all three NC UCC-1 forms accepted after making the following changes: 1) Spelled out "and" instead of using ampersand, 2) Used registered office addresses instead of business addresses, 3) Verified all entities were in good standing with annual reports current. The debtor name formatting wasn't actually the main issue - it was the combination of address problems and one entity being behind on corporate filings.

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James Johnson

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Good to know about the entity status issue - I'll definitely check that going forward.

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Mia Green

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Glad you got it sorted out. NC can be tricky but once you know their quirks it gets easier.

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Oliver Schulz

UCC filing help needed - blank promissory note security agreement causing debtor name issues

I'm dealing with a situation where I need to file a UCC-1 but the promissory note and security agreement we received has blank fields for the debtor name. The borrower filled out most of the paperwork but somehow the signature pages got separated and now we have a blank promissory note security agreement with no clear debtor identification. Our compliance team is freaking out because they say we can't file the UCC without exact name matching. Has anyone dealt with this before? We're supposed to perfect our security interest by end of this week and I'm not sure if we should use the name from the loan application or wait for corrected documents. The collateral is commercial equipment worth about $180K so we really can't mess this up.

Nia Harris

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Whatever you do, don't file with a blank promissory note security agreement. The UCC filing office will either reject it outright or you'll have an unperfected security interest. Get the corrected documents first.

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This is why we always require original signed documents before funding. Saves so much headache later.

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Aisha Ali

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Lesson learned for next time I guess. Document control is so important in lending.

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Ethan Moore

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Update us when you get this resolved! I'm curious how it turns out since I deal with UCC filings regularly and this is a common issue.

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Oliver Schulz

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Will do. Thanks everyone for the advice. Going to get the corrected security agreement first before filing anything.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Smart move. Better safe than sorry with UCC perfection.

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Lucas Lindsey

Orange County UCC search showing weird results - anyone else having issues?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to do an Orange County UCC search for a client and the results are completely inconsistent. When I search by debtor name I get different filings than when I search by filing number, and some continuations aren't showing up linked to their original UCC-1s. Is this a known issue with the system or am I missing something? I've been doing these searches for years but this is making me question everything. Has anyone else noticed problems with Orange County UCC search results lately?

PrinceJoe

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Try searching with different punctuation too. Sometimes the system treats 'LLC' different from 'L.L.C.' or 'Inc' vs 'Inc.' in debtor names.

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Sophie Duck

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Yes! And sometimes they index 'The' at the beginning of company names differently too.

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The punctuation thing is so annoying. Why can't the search be smart enough to handle common variations?

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Thanks for posting this - I thought I was going crazy with inconsistent Orange County search results. At least now I know it's not just me!

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Lucas Lindsey

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Glad I'm not the only one dealing with this! It's reassuring to know other people are seeing the same issues.

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Anita George

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Yeah, this thread has been really helpful. I'm going to change how I do my searches going forward.

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