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One more verification trick - if you're unsure about a debtor name match, check the secured party address. If it matches your records, it's probably the right filing even if the debtor name has minor variations.

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Right, as long as the debtor name is 'substantially similar' and the secured party matches, you're usually good. The key is catching major discrepancies that could affect enforceability.

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Still worth getting name discrepancies fixed with UCC-3 amendments though. Better safe than sorry in a default situation.

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Jasmine Quinn

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Just finished a similar audit last month. Ended up using a combination of manual searches and document verification tools. The automated checking caught several issues I missed in my initial review. Definitely recommend having some kind of verification backup for important filings.

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Jordan Walker

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That's reassuring. I was worried about relying too much on automated tools but sounds like they're pretty reliable as a backup check.

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Jasmine Quinn

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Yeah, I use them as a second pair of eyes. Manual review first, then automated verification to catch anything I missed.

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Admin_Masters

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I actually had success calling the Georgia SOS UCC department directly when I had questions about search results. They can sometimes clarify whether filings are related or help you understand what you're seeing. Their number is on the website.

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Grace Lee

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Good idea, though I'm not sure they can give legal advice about lien priority or whether names refer to the same entity.

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Admin_Masters

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True, they can't give legal advice, but they can explain how their search system works and what the filing data means.

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This thread is making me realize I probably need to be more thorough with my Georgia UCC searches. I usually just do one search with the exact corporate name and call it done. Sounds like that's not sufficient.

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If you're going to start doing multiple searches, consider using a verification tool like Certana.ai. It can help organize all those search results and flag potential issues. Makes the whole process more manageable.

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I'll look into that. This manual comparison approach sounds error-prone.

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Update us when you figure it out! I'm dealing with a similar issue on a different entity and curious what ends up working for you.

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Wesley Hallow

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Good luck! These name matching issues are the worst part of UCC filing.

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Definitely keep us posted. Name rejections are so frustrating when you know you have the right entity.

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Justin Chang

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Last resort if nothing else works - try filing with the exact name format from their most recent annual report. Sometimes that's different from the original Articles and more current in their system.

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Grace Thomas

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Annual reports are usually the most current official record of how the state has the entity name stored.

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Justin Chang

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Exactly. The formation documents are historical but the annual reports reflect how the state currently has everything formatted.

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This is why I hate equipment financing transactions with multiple parties involved. Too many opportunities for the original debtor identification to get screwed up.

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Emma Davis

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At least OP is being proactive about it. I've seen deals where nobody realizes there's an original debtor issue until there's already a problem.

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LunarLegend

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Bottom line - you need to determine who actually granted the security interest in the equipment originally. That's your 9-102(a)(65) original debtor. If your current UCC filing doesn't reflect that entity as the debtor, you'll need to file amendments to correct it. Don't risk a $340K perfection gap over debtor name issues.

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Mei Zhang

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Thanks everyone - this gives me a much clearer picture of what I need to research. Going to pull all the original documents and trace through the security interest grants.

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Malik Jackson

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Smart approach. And definitely consider using a document verification service to double-check everything once you think you've got it sorted out.

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This thread is exactly why I always double-check everything manually even with automated systems. Technology is great until it's not, and UCC filings are too important to trust blindly to any software system.

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Manual checking is ideal but not practical when you have hundreds of filings. Need some kind of automated verification process.

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Fair point. At minimum, spot checking a percentage of automated work should be standard practice.

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Update us when you figure out the root cause! This could affect a lot of ALCS users and it would be helpful to know what the fix ended up being.

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KaiEsmeralda

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Will do. Planning to check the field mappings first, then look into the version upgrade if that doesn't solve it.

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