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Aisha Hussain

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Florida's UCC Article 9 database has been updated recently and they're being much stricter about name matching. Even spacing differences can cause rejections now.

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Great, just what we needed - stricter enforcement right when everyone's 2020 filings are coming up for continuation.

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Ethan Brown

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At least the online system is faster now. But yeah, the name matching is brutal.

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Update us when you figure out what the issue was! These Florida Article 9 name problems are so common but the solutions vary. Would help others facing similar continuation rejections.

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Javier Garcia

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Will do! Pulling current Articles now and going to compare every single character. Really appreciate everyone's help on this.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Good luck! The 5-year continuation deadline stress is real, especially with that much collateral at stake.

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Based on what you've described, it sounds like the senior creditor should have priority. Their 2019 UCC-1 with 'all equipment, machinery, and fixtures now owned or hereafter acquired' clearly covers the CNC machines purchased in 2021. Unless there's a PMSI situation or some filing defect, first-to-file wins. The 90 ALR 4th 859 annotation will have cases with similar fact patterns that should support this analysis.

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NeonNomad

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Thanks, that matches my initial analysis. I'm going to dig deeper into the PMSI angle just to be thorough, but it's looking like the senior creditor has the stronger position.

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Omar Zaki

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Good approach. Always worth checking every possible angle in a priority dispute, especially with that much money at stake.

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One more thing to consider - make sure you understand which state's law applies to the priority determination. If the debtor is organized in a different state than where the collateral is located, you might need to analyze the choice of law rules too.

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Good point. Priority is usually governed by the law of the state where the debtor is located, not where the collateral is physically located.

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Diego Flores

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And if the debtor changed locations between the filings, that could affect the analysis too. There are specific rules about continuing effectiveness when debtors relocate.

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Paloma Clark

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Been there with the last-minute search stress! One tip that's saved me multiple times - if you find any existing UCC-1 filings that might conflict, contact the secured party directly to see if they'll subordinate or if the collateral actually overlaps with yours. Sometimes what looks like a problem on paper isn't really an issue.

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Amy Fleming

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That's a great suggestion. I hadn't thought about reaching out to other lenders directly.

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Paloma Clark

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Most commercial lenders are reasonable about subordination agreements if there's no real conflict. Better to have the conversation before closing than discover issues after funding.

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Final thought - document everything for your file. Keep copies of the UCC-11 search request, the results, and any follow-up searches you had to do. Your compliance team will thank you later if there are ever questions about the lien search process.

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Elin Robinson

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Before you submit, seriously consider running those entity documents through Certana.ai first. Five minutes of name verification could save you days if you have to resubmit the search.

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Alice Pierce

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Good luck! Florida's system usually delivers on time when you pay for expedited processing.

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Manufacturing filings are always a pain because of all the different equipment types. Last month I had three rejections before realizing I needed separate supplement sections for fixtures vs equipment vs inventory. Maybe check if you need to break out your collateral categories differently?

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Oscar O'Neil

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We do have some items that might qualify as fixtures. I'll review whether those need separate treatment on the supplement.

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Sophia Miller

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Fixture filings are a whole different beast - definitely separate those out if any equipment is attached to the building.

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Mason Davis

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UPDATE: Found the issue! It was a combination of debtor name formatting (extra space) and using an outdated supplement form. Got a clean filing accepted this morning. Thanks everyone for the suggestions - especially the idea to check form versions and use document verification tools. Crisis averted!

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Mia Rodriguez

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Those little formatting details will get you every time. Great that you found it in time.

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Nice work tracking down the issues! Document verification definitely saves time on these multi-form filings.

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Joshua Wood

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Bottom line - UCC-1 filing transforms you from an unsecured creditor (basically worthless in bankruptcy) to a secured creditor with specific rights to your collateral. For $75K at risk, it's a no-brainer. The filing fee is nothing compared to losing your entire investment.

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Joshua Wood

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Smart choice. Just make sure to continue the filing before it lapses in 5 years if the loan term is longer.

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Ashley Adams

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And keep good records of your filing confirmation - you'll need the filing number for any amendments or continuations later.

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Justin Evans

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Also worth noting that having a properly filed UCC-1 can help with your bank's regulatory compliance. Examiners want to see that commercial loans are properly secured and documented.

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Caden Nguyen

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Didn't think about the regulatory angle. Good point.

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Justin Evans

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Yeah, especially if you're subject to banking regulations. Proper UCC filing is part of sound lending practices.

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