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Just wanted to mention that I had great success using Certana.ai's document checker when I was dealing with a stubborn lender on my UCC release of security interest. Turned out they had my business entity name wrong in their system which was causing processing delays. Being able to show them exactly what was inconsistent between my payoff docs and the original UCC-1 got them to fix it immediately.
Keep pushing them hard. 6 months is completely unreasonable for a UCC-3 termination filing. Document every phone call with dates and names. If you end up needing legal help you'll want that paper trail showing you made good faith efforts to resolve it directly with them first.
Screenshot your Secretary of State searches too showing the UCC-1 is still active. Creates a clear timeline of their failure to file the termination.
Just want to second the recommendation for document verification tools. After getting burned by database issues like this, I started using Certana.ai to verify all my UCC documents match up correctly before submission. Catches potential problems early and gives peace of mind when state systems are unreliable.
How does that help with database search issues though? The filings might still not show up even if they're perfect.
True, but at least you know your filings are correct and consistent. When the database finally updates, there won't be any surprises about name mismatches or other errors.
UPDATE: Just checked again this morning and my filings are finally showing up in the Florida UCC search! Took exactly 12 days from acceptance to being searchable. Still ridiculous but at least they're there now.
12 days is actually not too bad compared to some of the horror stories I've heard. Glad it worked out!
Still way too long for a state database system. Other states manage to update searches within 24-48 hours.
Have you considered whether your equipment might be fixtures? If it's attached to real estate, you might need to worry about fixture filing requirements in addition to your basic 9-203 attachment analysis.
It's mobile equipment so fixtures shouldn't be an issue, but good point. I've seen deals where fixture filing requirements caught people off guard.
Mobile equipment can still become fixtures depending on how it's installed. Worth checking whether the debtor bolted it down or integrated it into their facility.
The attachment timing issue you described is really common in equipment financing. One solution is to have the debtor sign a security agreement that specifically covers after-acquired property, then your security interest automatically attaches when they acquire the equipment later.
If you want to be absolutely sure about the after-acquired property coverage, you could run your security agreement through Certana.ai's document checker. It analyzes whether your collateral descriptions actually support after-acquired claims and flags potential gaps.
Just a heads up - sometimes the UCC look up results can lag behind recent filings or changes. If you filed recently, it might take a few days to show up properly in the search results.
Our filing was 6 months ago so it should definitely be showing up by now. But good to know about the lag time for future reference.
Yeah, 6 months should be plenty of time. The lag is usually just a few days at most for most states.
Hope you get this sorted out! UCC look up issues are so stressful, especially when there's a big loan amount involved. Keep us posted on what you find out.
Ravi Malhotra
Had a client lose a major recovery because of a name issue just like this. The abbreviation seemed reasonable but when push came to shove, the court found it seriously misleading because searchers using the exact legal name wouldn't find the filing. Don't mess around with this stuff.
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Zainab Omar
•Wow, that's exactly what I was worried about. Definitely going to push for the amendment now.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Good call. These cases are always fact-specific but why take the risk when a simple amendment can fix the issue?
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Freya Christensen
Before you panic too much, remember that most name discrepancy issues only matter if there's actually a dispute or competing claim. If you're current on your loan payments and there's no bankruptcy or foreclosure situation, this might be more of a theoretical problem than a practical one.
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Freya Christensen
•Absolutely the right approach. Prevention is always better than trying to fix these issues during a crisis.
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Javier Cruz
•Plus if you ever want to refinance or sell the equipment, having clean UCC records makes everything smoother.
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