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Niko Ramsey

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File the corrected UCC-1 immediately while you figure out the PMSI timing issue. Even if you lose PMSI priority, you still want to perfect your security interest. A perfected non-PMSI lien is better than an unperfected PMSI claim.

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Absolutely this. Get the corrected filing done today if possible. Priority disputes can be sorted out later.

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Jabari-Jo

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Good point about perfection vs priority. Too many lenders get caught up in PMSI timing and forget about basic perfection requirements.

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Kristin Frank

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The blanket lien holder might not even contest your PMSI claim if your collateral description is specific enough. Most blanket lenders expect equipment financing to take PMSI priority as long as the formalities are met. Your comma issue is probably more of a technical perfection problem than a priority problem.

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Nia Watson

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Depends on the lender and the loan terms. Some blanket lenders specifically carve out PMSI equipment in their loan agreements.

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For an $85K equipment loan, it's probably worth fighting for PMSI priority. That's not pocket change.

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One more thing to watch for - make sure you're checking the filing dates carefully. Tennessee sometimes has delays in posting filings to their online system, so very recent filings might not show up immediately.

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Usually 1-2 business days but I've seen it take up to a week during busy periods. Always worth calling to confirm if timing is critical.

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Amina Diallo

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This is why I always do a final UCC search the day before closing. Can't risk missing a last-minute filing.

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GamerGirl99

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm definitely going to try the Certana tool and implement a more systematic search approach. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding Tennessee's quirks.

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Good luck with your due diligence! Tennessee searches are tricky but following these suggestions should help you catch everything.

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Let us know how the Certana tool works out for you. Always interested in hearing about new solutions for UCC searches.

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Landon Morgan

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Update us on what you find! I have a Delaware Article 9 filing coming up next week and want to avoid the same issue. Did you end up finding the name discrepancy?

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Teresa Boyd

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Same here - following this thread because Delaware UCC filings stress me out every time.

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Lourdes Fox

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Consider using one of those document verification tools mentioned earlier. Might save you the headache.

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Bruno Simmons

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Just went through something similar. Turned out the LLC had filed a certificate of correction that changed a single letter in their name, and Delaware's UCC system was still using the corrected version while their main website was showing the old version. Check for any certificate corrections or amendments beyond just name changes.

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Delaware corporate records can be surprisingly complex. Always worth doing a full search of all filed documents.

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Zane Gray

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This is why I always order the full certificate package instead of just pulling the basic info online.

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Sophia Nguyen

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Don't overlook federal tax liens either. They won't show up in UCC searches but can have priority over your security interests depending on the filing dates and collateral types. Check with the IRS for federal tax lien searches on each debtor entity.

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Sophia Nguyen

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Unfortunately no. Federal, state UCC, state tax, agricultural, and motor vehicle liens are all in separate systems. It's one of the biggest challenges in acquisition due diligence.

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This is where document verification tools like Certana.ai really help. Once you get all the search results back, you can upload everything and it flags inconsistencies across all the different systems and document types.

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UPDATE: Just completed a similar Colorado search process. The colorado ucc statement request form worked well but I had to submit three separate requests to catch everything - standard debtor search, fixture filing search, and a filing number verification search for liens we already knew about. Total cost was about $400 but worth it for the comprehensive coverage.

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About 10 business days for certified results. Online searches were immediate but we needed the certified versions for our transaction documentation. Plan accordingly for your closing timeline.

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AstroAce

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10 days is actually pretty good for Colorado. I've seen certified searches take up to 3 weeks during busy periods.

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Emily Parker

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Friday deadline is cutting it close but you should be okay if you file early tomorrow morning. I'd recommend having everything ready tonight - payment info, documents reviewed, debtor names triple-checked. Then hit the portal right at 6 AM when it's most stable.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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That's the plan. Going to prep everything tonight and set an early alarm. Thanks for the encouragement.

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Emily Parker

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You've got this. Early morning filing has never failed me, even when the portal is having issues later in the day.

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Ezra Collins

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UPDATE: Tried filing at 6 AM this morning and it worked perfectly! All three continuations went through without any issues. Portal was fast and responsive. Definitely filing early from now on. Thanks everyone for the advice - especially about double-checking documents first. Crisis averted!

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Awesome news! Did you end up checking your documents beforehand or just went with what you had?

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Ezra Collins

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I did run them through a quick verification check and found one small issue - debtor name had an extra period that would've caused problems. Good catch!

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