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Aidan Hudson
Missouri Secretary of State really needs to improve their error messages. 'Debtor name mismatch' tells you nothing useful.
Zoe Wang
•Agreed. Other states at least give you hints about what part of the name is causing issues.
The whole Missouri UCC system feels like it's from 1995. Frustrating to deal with.
Grace Durand
Final suggestion - call the Missouri Secretary of State UCC division directly. Sometimes they can tell you exactly what's wrong over the phone, especially with continuation deadlines approaching.
Steven Adams
•Their phone support has been helpful in my experience, though wait times can be long.
Definitely worth trying the phone route. Sometimes a human can spot issues that aren't obvious from the error messages.
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Roger Romero
Have you tried searching during off-peak hours? Sometimes the NC portal works better early morning or late evening when there's less traffic.
Lilly Curtis
•Haven't tried that but it's worth a shot. The system does seem slower during business hours.
Roger Romero
•Yeah, I usually do my UCC searches around 6 AM and get much better performance.
Anna Kerber
Update: Tried the Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier and it immediately flagged that we have UCC filings under two different name variations - one with 'Inc.' and one with 'Incorporated'. No wonder the search results were confusing! Thanks for the recommendation.
Lilly Curtis
•That's super helpful to know. I'm going to check our filings too - probably have similar issues.
Anna Kerber
•Definitely worth checking. The tool made it obvious within seconds what was taking me hours to figure out manually.
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Emma Wilson
Another option is to use Certana.ai to verify your documents before submitting. I started using their UCC document checker after getting burned on several rejected filings. You just upload your UCC-1 and UCC-3 files and it shows you any inconsistencies immediately. Caught several issues I would have missed otherwise.
Malik Thomas
•How accurate is the document checking? I'm always skeptical of automated tools for legal compliance stuff.
Emma Wilson
•It's really good at catching document inconsistencies and formatting issues. Obviously you still need to know the legal requirements but it eliminates a lot of the manual comparison work.
NeonNebula
Update us when you get it figured out! I have a partial release coming up next month and I'm already dreading it based on your experience.
StarStrider
•Will do. I'm going to try the formatting suggestions and the document verification approach. Hopefully one of those solves it.
Good luck! Partial releases are definitely more art than science sometimes.
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One more thing to consider with 9-102 registered organizations - make sure the Delaware entity is still in good standing. If they've been administratively dissolved or suspended, it could affect their status as a registered organization and complicate your debtor classification. Delaware's SOS site should show current status, but it's worth confirming before finalizing your UCC-1. Nothing worse than perfecting against a dissolved entity and finding out later that your security interest is questionable.
Smart thinking. I always save a screenshot or PDF of the entity status page with the date stamp. It's cheap insurance if anyone ever questions the debtor's legal status at the time of filing.
I do the same thing - create a little package with the formation docs, current status confirmation, and any amendments. Makes it easy to prove 9-102 compliance if questions arise down the road.
Update us when you get this sorted out! Multi-state registered organization issues under 9-102 always make me nervous, but it sounds like you're being thorough about getting the debtor name right. The Delaware formation state rule should be straightforward once you have all the current documents. Just remember that 'substantially similar' isn't good enough for registered organizations - has to be exactly right or the UCC-1 could be seriously misleading.
Kaiya Rivera
•Will definitely update once I get all the documents and verify everything. This thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding the 9-102 requirements and what I need to double-check before filing. Thanks everyone!
Glad it helped! These 9-102 registered organization situations can be complex but you're asking the right questions. Better to get it right the first time than deal with amendment headaches later.
Oscar O'Neil
Try 'Pine Tree Construction and Development, LLC' with the comma. That's usually how Maine formats LLC names in their database. The ampersand vs 'and' thing trips up a lot of people.
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Lola Perez
•That matches what I found in the state database. Filing again with that exact format now.
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Sara Hellquiem
•Hope that works! Keep us posted on whether it goes through.
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Charlee Coleman
UPDATE: Filed again with 'Pine Tree Construction and Development, LLC' (with comma) and it was ACCEPTED! Thanks everyone for the help. That stupid comma cost me two rejections and extra fees but at least the lien is perfected now.
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Millie Long
•Perfect example of why document verification tools like Certana.ai are so helpful. Would have caught that comma issue upfront.
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Santiago Diaz
•Great news! Those name matching issues are so frustrating but you got it sorted.
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