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Miguel Silva
Update us on how this turns out! I'm curious whether BECU actually filed any UCC statements for your secured card or if it's just account-level security.
Will do. I'm hoping it's just confusing language and not an actual filing conflict.
Fingers crossed for you. These things usually work out fine once you get the proper documentation.
One more thing - make sure your UCC-1 continuation gets filed on time regardless of this BECU issue. You don't want to let that lapse while sorting out the secured card question.
Smart approach. Handle the immediate filing deadline first, then clean up any collateral conflicts.
Yara Nassar
•Agreed. Never let UCC continuations slide, even when dealing with other issues.
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Another option is using a document verification service before filing. I started using Certana.ai after getting burned on a continuation filing that got rejected for a debtor name error I didn't catch. Now I upload both documents first to verify everything matches before submitting to the state. Catches those tiny formatting differences that cause rejections.
Paolo Rizzo
•How accurate is the automated checking? Does it catch subtle formatting issues?
Very thorough. It flagged a period vs comma difference I never would have spotted manually. Saved me from another rejection cycle.
QuantumQuest
Update: I pulled the original UCC-1 filing and copied the debtor name exactly as it appears there - 'PRECISION MANUFACTURING SOLUTIONS LLC' without the comma and all caps. Resubmitted the UCC-3 amendment this morning and it was accepted within two hours. Thanks everyone for the advice about exact name matching!
Glad you got it sorted out. Now you know for any future UCC-3 filings on this debtor to use that exact name format.
Perfect example of why keeping track of exactly how names appear on original UCC filings is so important for future amendments and continuations.
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Tennessee has gotten so much pickier about UCC filings lately. Used to be more forgiving with name variations but now they're rejecting everything that doesn't match exactly.
It's probably because of increased automation in their processing system. Less human review means stricter matching requirements.
Zara Ahmed
•Makes sense but it's really frustrating for practitioners trying to get deals closed on time.
Luca Conti
UPDATE: Finally got through to the Tennessee UCC office. Turns out the LLC had filed an amendment to add a business purpose that slightly changed how the name appears in their system. Had to match the name exactly as it shows on the most recent amendment filing, not the original Articles of Organization. Refiled this morning and it was accepted within 2 hours. Thanks everyone for the suggestions!
Glad you got it sorted out. This is exactly the kind of issue that document verification tools are designed to catch before filing.
Nia Johnson
•Thanks for the update! This will help others dealing with similar Tennessee filing issues.
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QuantumQuest
West Virginia has some weird rules about fixture filings too if your equipment is going to be attached to real estate. Make sure you're not missing a fixture filing requirement that could affect your priority.
QuantumQuest
•Mobile equipment can still have fixture issues if it gets attached to customer facilities. Just something to keep in mind during the loan monitoring phase.
This is why we always include language in our security agreements about notification if equipment becomes fixtures. Covers you if the debtor moves equipment to real estate later.
Update us when you figure out what was causing the search issues! Always helpful to know what worked for future WV filings.
Will do. Going to try the name variations suggested here and probably order certified results to be safe.
Smart approach. Better to over-search than miss something that could affect your lien priority.
Rachel Clark
One more tip for the original poster - keep a copy of exactly what you file. If you ever need to do an amendment or continuation, you'll want to reference the exact language from your original UCC-1.
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Amelia Cartwright
•Good point - I'll make sure to save the final version before submitting.
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Mia Alvarez
•learned this the hard way when I couldn't find my original filing language for a continuation. Had to order a certified copy from the state.
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Chris King
To wrap this up - your collateral description should be clear, accurate, and sufficient to give notice. Don't overthink the 'contract definition' aspect. You're describing collateral, not drafting the contract itself. For construction equipment, use language that reasonably identifies the equipment without being overly broad or unnecessarily specific.
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Amelia Cartwright
•Thank you everyone - this has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about moving forward with the filing now.
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Lucas Bey
•Great thread - I learned a lot too. The Certana.ai suggestion is definitely worth looking into for complex filings.
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