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One more thing - when the loan is paid off, you should file a UCC-3 termination to release the lien. It's good practice and some states actually require it within a certain timeframe.
The borrower can demand termination and you might face penalties for not filing it promptly. Plus it clutters up the public records.
Yeah, we always include termination as part of our loan payoff process. Just cleaner that way.
This has been such a helpful thread! As someone new to secured lending, I was getting overwhelmed by all the UCC terminology, but the explanations here really clarified things. The key takeaway for me is that the UCC financing statement is essentially your public claim ticket that establishes priority over other creditors. I'm definitely going to look into some of those document verification tools that were mentioned - sounds like the cost of getting it wrong far outweighs the cost of double-checking everything. Thanks everyone for breaking this down in practical terms rather than just legal jargon!
Welcome to the secured lending world! You've picked up on the most important points from this discussion. That "public claim ticket" analogy is spot on - it really is about staking your claim and making sure everyone knows about it. The document verification tools are definitely worth investigating, especially when you're starting out. Even experienced lenders make mistakes with UCC filings, so having that extra layer of protection is smart. Don't hesitate to ask more questions as you get deeper into this area - the community here is really helpful for practical insights you won't find in textbooks.
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Wait I'm confused - are you trying to get a copy of your existing UCC-1 or are you trying to verify what's in the public records? Because if you have your original filing documents you shouldn't need to pay for copies just to do an amendment.
Ah that makes sense. Yeah lenders are getting more careful about that stuff. Smart move by them actually.
Your lender is being smart. I've seen cases where people thought their UCC-1 was filed correctly but there were errors that didn't surface until they tried to enforce their security interest.
Have you considered reaching out to a UCC filing service company? I used one last year when I was in a similar situation with equipment collateral changes. They often have bulk access to state databases and can pull UCC search reports much cheaper than going through individual state offices. The service I used charged $25 for a comprehensive search that included all active filings under our business name. Plus they gave me a summary report that made it really easy to compare against our current inventory. Might be worth getting quotes from a few different services before paying that $90 fee.
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One more thing to consider - if you do decide to file a UCC-3 amendment, make sure the debtor name matches exactly with your original UCC-1. Any discrepancy could create priority problems even if the collateral description is perfect. I learned this the hard way when a client got married and we used her new name on the amendment.
Name consistency is huge. We started using automated checking tools after a debtor name mismatch nearly cost us our security interest. Certana.ai caught several potential issues we would have missed manually.
Individual debtors are the worst for name changes. Corporate entities usually stay consistent, but people get married, divorced, change their legal names - it's a constant headache for UCC filings.
Thanks for all the detailed responses - this is really helpful. Just to clarify our situation: we're not financing the purchase of the new equipment, the borrower is acquiring it with their own funds and we're just taking it as additional collateral for the existing loan. So UCC 9332 PMSI doesn't apply to us. My main concern is whether that other equipment lender from 6 months ago might have PMSI priority over any of this new equipment if they financed its purchase. I'll run a comprehensive UCC search first to see what's actually on file and check if any existing liens claim PMSI status. Based on the discussion here, it sounds like filing separate UCC-1s for the new collateral might be the safer approach to avoid any priority confusion, even if it costs a bit more in filing fees. Better safe than sorry when it comes to security interests.
Smart approach! You're absolutely right to check for existing PMSI claims first - that other equipment lender could indeed have super-priority if they properly perfected a purchase money security interest in any of the new equipment. The separate UCC-1 strategy makes a lot of sense for your situation. It eliminates any ambiguity about priority dates and gives you clean documentation if you ever need to enforce your security interest. The extra filing fees are definitely worth the peace of mind, especially with intervening liens in the mix.
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One more suggestion - consider getting access to a good form book too. Even if you understand the law, having well-drafted forms as starting points saves a lot of time. Some of the treatises include forms but dedicated form books are usually better.
West's Forms series has a good secured transactions volume. Also check if your state bar has published forms - sometimes those are more current for local practice.
Just be careful with forms - they're starting points but need to be tailored for each deal. I've seen people use forms blindly and miss important collateral or create conflicts.
Really appreciate all the detailed recommendations here! Based on everyone's input, I'm thinking of starting with Warren's hornbook to get the conceptual foundation, then moving to White & Summers for the comprehensive treatment. The state-specific practice guide suggestion is spot-on too - I've been struggling with procedural variations between states. And @Keisha Brown, I'm definitely going to check out that Certana tool for document verification. Three rejections in a row sounds like my nightmare scenario! Question for the group: do any of these resources cover the interplay between Article 9 and bankruptcy law? I'm seeing more distressed deals lately and want to make sure I understand how secured positions are treated in Chapter 11 cases.
Great strategy on the Warren → White & Summers progression! For the bankruptcy piece, White & Summers does cover some Article 9/bankruptcy interactions but you'll probably want a dedicated bankruptcy treatise too. The secured creditor rights in Chapter 11 can get really complex, especially around adequate protection and cash collateral issues. Collier on Bankruptcy has good coverage of how UCC perfection affects bankruptcy priority, though it's another hefty investment. The interplay between state law perfection and federal bankruptcy law is definitely something worth understanding deeply if you're doing distressed work.
Liam O'Sullivan
For what it's worth, Rhode Island's UCC system is more reliable than some states I've dealt with. At least when it works, the information is generally accurate and up-to-date. Just be patient with the search interface and double-check your debtor name spellings.
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Giovanni Marino
•Still wish they'd modernize the search interface though. It feels like it's from 2005.
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Liam O'Sullivan
•True, but as long as it gives accurate results, I can deal with an old-fashioned interface.
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Based on everyone's feedback here, it sounds like Rhode Island UCC searches require extra diligence compared to other states. A few additional tips from my experience: 1) If you're having trouble finding the search function, try looking under "UCC Records" or "Financing Statements" in addition to the terms others mentioned. 2) Consider doing your searches during off-peak hours (early morning or late evening) to avoid system slowdowns. 3) For acquisition due diligence, I always recommend getting a professional UCC search service for the final verification, especially given all the potential pitfalls mentioned here with name variations, amendments, and fixture issues. The peace of mind is worth the cost when you're dealing with a significant transaction.
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