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Logan Stewart

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One thing to watch out for with restaurant equipment - make sure your collateral description is specific enough but not too specific. Section 102 talks about sufficiency of collateral descriptions and you want to capture all the equipment without being so detailed that you miss something. I usually go with something like 'all restaurant equipment, kitchen equipment, furniture, fixtures, and inventory now owned or hereafter acquired' to cast a wide net.

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Mikayla Brown

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Broad descriptions are usually better for commercial equipment that changes frequently. You want to make sure your security interest covers equipment they buy later too.

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Isaac Wright

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Just remember that if you go too broad, you might capture personal property that should be excluded. Balance is key.

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Lucy Lam

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I'm new to UCC filings and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently dealing with a similar situation where my borrower's LLC name appears differently on various documents. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like the absolute key is matching exactly what's in the Secretary of State database, character for character. Can someone clarify - when you say "organizational documents," are we always referring to the original articles of incorporation/organization, or should I be looking at the most recent amendments or certificates of good standing? I want to make sure I understand the hierarchy of which document takes precedence for the debtor name under section 102.

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Ava Garcia

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For what it's worth, I've seen this happen with smaller regional lenders who don't have strong UCC procedures. They focus on the loan documentation but forget about the perfection requirements. Always worth doing a comprehensive UCC search and document review before taking a position on any collateral.

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StarSailor}

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Yeah we see this more with community banks and credit unions. They're great at traditional lending but sometimes miss the secured transaction nuances.

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Miguel Silva

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Which is why tools like Certana.ai are becoming essential - helps catch these gaps before they become problems.

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Nia Thompson

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This is a textbook case of why perfection matters under Article 9. That previous lender is fundamentally misunderstanding secured transactions - a security agreement alone only gives you attachment, which creates rights against the debtor but not against other creditors. Without perfection (typically through UCC-1 filing for equipment), they're effectively unsecured and subordinate to any properly perfected security interest you file. Since the equipment has been at the borrower's facility for over two years, there's no possession perfection either. You should definitely challenge their claim and proceed with your UCC-1 filing - their unperfected interest won't give them priority over your perfected one.

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Exactly - this is UCC 101 stuff that every commercial lender should know. The distinction between attachment and perfection is fundamental to secured transactions. Without that UCC-1 filing, they're just another unsecured creditor in line behind you once you perfect your interest.

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Hattie Carson

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Just went through this exact scenario three months ago. UCC-1 expired on construction equipment financing. Had to file new UCC-1, update loan documentation, and explain the gap to our insurance company since they also track our secured debt. The 5-year rule is non-negotiable - file continuation between months 54-60 or start over completely.

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Did your insurance rates change because of the temporary unperfected status?

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Hattie Carson

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No rate change, but they required documentation showing we had refiled and restored the security interest before renewal.

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Aaron Lee

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Just to add some practical advice - when you file your new UCC-1, double check that your debtor name matches EXACTLY how it appears on your corporate documents and loan agreement. Even minor variations like "Inc." vs "Incorporated" or missing middle initials can make the filing legally ineffective. Also consider filing in all states where your equipment might be located or moved to, not just your home state. We learned this the hard way when we relocated manufacturing equipment across state lines and discovered our security interest didn't follow.

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Lily Young

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This is really helpful advice about the debtor name matching exactly. I'm curious - when you say the security interest didn't follow across state lines, did you have to file new UCCs in each state where equipment was moved? And is there a way to know upfront which states you might need to file in, or do you just have to file amendments every time equipment moves?

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PixelPioneer

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@8279860bb01f Yes, you generally need to file UCCs in each state where equipment is located or might be moved. For equipment that stays put, you file where it's located. For mobile equipment or equipment that moves between facilities, many lenders require filings in multiple states upfront. Some loan agreements include provisions requiring borrower notification before moving collateral across state lines so new filings can be made. The UCC rules vary by state on how long you have to file after equipment is moved - usually 30-120 days - but it's risky to rely on those grace periods. Better to file preemptively in states where you know equipment might go.

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Mei Lin

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One last piece of advice - double-check what state you need to file in. It's usually the state where your business is organized/incorporated, not necessarily where you're located or where the equipment will be used. If you file in the wrong state, the whole thing is useless.

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Mei Lin

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For a Delaware corporation, yes, you'd typically file the UCC-1 in Delaware regardless of where your business operates.

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Diego Vargas

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Correct, it's based on the state of organization for corporate entities. This is a common mistake that can completely invalidate the filing.

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Millie Long

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! This is way clearer now. Just to make sure I have this right - I need to file a UCC-1 in Delaware (since we're incorporated there) with our exact legal name from our articles of incorporation, include a specific description of the equipment as collateral, and get this done before or shortly after the loan funding. I'm definitely going to check out that Certana tool to verify everything before filing - sounds like it could save me from making costly mistakes. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this stuff!

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You've got it exactly right! One small addition - make sure to keep copies of everything and set a calendar reminder for about 4.5 years from now for the continuation filing if your loan term is longer than 5 years. The Delaware Secretary of State website is actually pretty user-friendly for UCC filings compared to some other states. Good luck with your equipment financing!

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Cedric Chung

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Thanks everyone for all this detailed info! This has been incredibly helpful. Just to make sure I understand the full process: 1) Do UCC statement request/search to see existing filings, 2) Analyze what collateral is already claimed, 3) File our UCC-1 for our specific collateral, 4) Do a final search before closing to catch any new filings. And I need to remember to search in all relevant states and consider other types of liens beyond just UCC filings. I feel much more confident explaining this to my borrower now. One last question - is there a standard timeframe that most lenders allow between the initial UCC search and loan closing? I want to make sure our timeline is reasonable.

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Andre Dupont

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Great summary of the process! For timing, most lenders I've worked with try to keep the initial UCC search within 30-60 days of closing, but it really depends on your institution's policies and the complexity of the deal. For straightforward transactions, 30 days is usually fine. For more complex deals or if there are a lot of moving parts, you might want to refresh that search if it's been longer than 45 days. The key is having that final search right before funding like others mentioned - that's your safety net to catch anything new.

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StarSurfer

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Another thing worth mentioning for newcomers - keep detailed records of all your UCC searches including the date, time, search terms used, and results received. This documentation becomes crucial if there are ever priority disputes down the road. I've seen cases where lenders had to prove exactly when they conducted their due diligence searches and what information was available at that time. Also, some institutions require you to print or save official search certificates rather than just screenshots, so check your bank's documentation requirements. The small details in UCC search procedures can make a big difference if you ever end up in litigation over lien priority.

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This is such valuable advice about documentation! I'm still learning all the procedural details and it's really helpful to know that search documentation can become legally important later. Should I be saving the actual search certificates as PDFs, or are screenshots of the online search results sufficient for most banks' documentation requirements?

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Most banks require the official search certificates as PDFs rather than screenshots. The official certificates usually have a timestamp, unique reference number, and sometimes a digital signature or seal that screenshots won't capture. Screenshots can look unofficial and might not hold up well if you ever need to prove exactly what information was available at the time you searched. I'd recommend always downloading the official certificate or report when available - it's usually just an extra click but gives you much stronger documentation. Some states even provide certified copies for an additional fee if you need extra legal weight behind your search results.

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