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Washington ESD claim approved but still searching - is this considered voluntary unemployment?

My Washington ESD claim was approved 6 weeks ago and I've been receiving benefits while job searching. I turned down two job offers because they weren't good fits - one was way below my previous salary and the other had terrible hours. My friend said this might be considered voluntary unemployment and could affect my benefits. Is there a specific term for when you're unemployed because you're taking time to find the right job? I'm worried Washington ESD might think I'm being too picky and cut off my benefits. I've been documenting all my job search activities in WorkSource but I'm getting anxious about whether I'm doing this right.

This is called 'frictional unemployment' - it's when people are temporarily unemployed while searching for jobs that match their skills and preferences. Washington ESD understands this is normal, but you do need to be able and available for suitable work. The key is documenting that you're actively searching and not turning down suitable positions.

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Thanks! That's the term I was looking for. What exactly counts as 'suitable work' according to Washington ESD rules?

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Generally suitable work matches your skills, experience, and pays at least 70% of your previous wage after the first few weeks of benefits. But it varies by situation.

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You should be fine as long as you're meeting the job search requirements. I went through something similar last year - turned down 3 jobs that were clearly not suitable matches. Washington ESD never questioned it because I was documenting everything properly in my weekly claims.

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That's reassuring! How detailed were you in documenting why you turned down the jobs?

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I kept notes about salary differences, scheduling conflicts, skill mismatches - basically anything that showed the job wasn't suitable for my situation.

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How does that work exactly? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks with no luck.

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They basically handle the calling for you and get you connected to an agent. Way better than sitting on hold for hours or getting disconnected.

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Interesting - I might need to try that. Washington ESD's phone system is absolutely terrible.

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wait so you can just turn down jobs and still get benefits?? i thought you had to take any job offer or they cut you off. this is confusing

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No, you don't have to take ANY job - just suitable work. There are specific criteria about what makes a job suitable based on your background and the local job market.

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ok that makes more sense. where can i find the actual rules about this?

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The term you're looking for is definitely frictional unemployment. It's actually considered healthy for the economy because it allows workers to find jobs that match their skills better. Just make sure you're not being overly selective - Washington ESD does monitor for that.

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Good to know it has an official name! How do they monitor for being too selective?

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They look at patterns - if you're consistently turning down jobs without good reasons, or if your job search seems too narrow, they might question your availability for work.

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I'm in a similar boat - been on Washington ESD for 2 months and turned down one job that was a 60% pay cut. Scared they'll think I'm being picky but the job literally wouldn't cover my mortgage. This whole system makes you feel guilty for having standards.

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A 60% pay cut would definitely not be considered suitable work, especially early in your benefit period. Don't feel guilty about that decision.

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Thanks, that helps. The anxiety around this stuff is real.

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Frictional unemployment is the technical term, but practically speaking Washington ESD just cares that you're genuinely looking for work and available to take suitable positions. Document everything and you'll be fine. The bigger issue is usually getting through to them when you have questions!

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Yeah the phone situation is ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to get clarification on these rules?

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr - couldn't deal with the phone system anymore.

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been unemployed for 4 months now and turned down maybe 6-7 jobs that were completely wrong for my field. never had any issues with washington esd as long as i kept applying to other jobs. the key is showing youre actively searching

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That's good to hear. How many jobs are you applying to per week?

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usually 8-10 applications per week, mix of online and in-person. document everything in workSource

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There's also structural unemployment and cyclical unemployment but frictional is definitely what you're describing. It's temporary unemployment while transitioning between jobs by choice.

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What's the difference between those types?

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Structural is when your skills don't match available jobs, cyclical is due to economic downturns. Frictional is just the normal job search process.

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Washington ESD actually expects some level of frictional unemployment - it's built into how they calculate benefit eligibility and duration. You're not gaming the system by taking time to find appropriate work.

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That's really helpful to know. Makes me feel less anxious about the whole process.

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Exactly - the system is designed to support job seekers, not punish them for being thoughtful about career moves.

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Just be careful about how you phrase things in your weekly claims. I got flagged once for saying I was 'waiting for the right opportunity' instead of 'actively seeking suitable employment.' Same thing but different perception.

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Good point about the wording. I'll be more careful about that.

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Yes, the language matters. Always emphasize that you're actively searching and available for suitable work.

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The Washington ESD handbook has specific guidelines about suitable work definitions. Usually it's based on your previous wage, commute distance, and skill level. Worth reading if you're worried about benefit eligibility.

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Where can I find the current handbook? Want to make sure I understand all the rules.

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Should be on the Washington ESD website under claimant resources. They update it regularly so make sure you get the current version.

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I tried using one of those callback services someone mentioned earlier - Claimyr I think? Actually worked great for getting through to Washington ESD when I had questions about suitable work requirements. Saved me hours of calling.

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Several people have mentioned that service. Might be worth trying if I need to talk to someone at Washington ESD.

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I was skeptical at first but honestly anything is better than their regular phone system.

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FRICTIONAL UNEMPLOYMENT is the answer to your question. It's literally in every economics textbook. People taking time between jobs to find better matches.

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Thanks! Nice to have the definitive answer with the caps for emphasis lol

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lol sorry didn't mean to yell, just wanted to make sure you saw the exact term

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Your situation sounds totally normal for frictional unemployment. Keep documenting your job search activities and you should be fine. The fact that you're worried about it shows you're taking the requirements seriously.

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Thanks everyone for the reassurance and information! This thread has been really helpful.

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Good luck with your job search! Hope you find something that's a good fit soon.

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One more thing - if Washington ESD does question any of your job refusals, you can appeal their decision. But based on what you described, it sounds like you had legitimate reasons for turning those jobs down.

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Good to know there's an appeal process if needed. Hopefully it won't come to that.

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Most likely won't, but it's good to know your options. Keep doing what you're doing with the documentation.

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been following this thread and learned something new today! didnt know there was a specific term for job searching unemployment. thought it was just called being unemployed lol

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There are actually several different types of unemployment with specific economic definitions. Frictional is just one of them.

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interesting, might have to look that up. always thought unemployment was just unemployment

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Bottom line - frictional unemployment is normal and expected. Washington ESD knows people need time to find appropriate jobs. Just keep documenting your search efforts and you'll be fine.

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Perfect summary! Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. Really helped clarify things for me.

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This was a great thread - learned a lot about Washington ESD policies I didn't know before.

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If you need to talk to Washington ESD about any of this stuff, I'd recommend trying that Claimyr service people mentioned. Made a huge difference when I needed to get clarification on my claim status.

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I'm definitely keeping that option in mind if I need to contact them. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Same here - bookmarked their site for future reference. Washington ESD's phone system is just impossible otherwise.

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Great question and great responses! Shows how helpful this community can be for navigating Washington ESD issues. Frictional unemployment is definitely the term you were looking for.

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Agreed! This community has been incredibly helpful. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain things.

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That's what we're here for! Washington ESD can be confusing but we help each other figure it out.

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