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ESD denied training benefits and now I owe huge overpayment - appeal options?

I'm in a complete mess with ESD and need advice ASAP. I was laid off in November 2024 due to 'performance issues' but ESD determined I was eligible for benefits since the company couldn't prove misconduct. So I've been receiving unemployment since December.\n\nHere's where it gets complicated: I enrolled in a certification program at Bellevue College in January. I honestly didn't know I needed special approval for training benefits until someone mentioned it to me in April. I immediately applied for Commissioner Approved Training (CAT) status, thinking it would be fine since my program is on their approved list.\n\nWell, I just got a letter saying my training benefits are DENIED because according to them, I 'refused to modify my class schedule to accept suitable work.' This makes zero sense - nobody ever asked me to modify my schedule and I never refused any work! The worst part? They're saying ALL my benefit payments since JANUARY are disqualified and I now owe $7,850 in overpayment!\n\nCan I appeal this? Has anyone successfully fought something like this? I'm absolutely panicking about owing this money when I did everything I thought was right.\n\nAlso, completely separate issue - I received a pandemic overpayment waiver approval back in February (from that whole mess in 2022), but the letter doesn't show which weeks are being refunded. Is there somewhere specific I should look to see this information?

This makes so much more sense now! I think what happened is when I applied for CAT in April, they asked about my class schedule since January, and I mentioned that I arranged my classes around potential work hours. Maybe they took that as me admitting I wasn't fully available? I'll definitely focus on proving I remained available for work the whole time.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to share what I've learned from my research. The key thing to understand is that ESD has been really aggressive lately about retroactively reviewing training benefit eligibility, especially for people who didn't apply for CAT status right away. From what I've gathered, your strongest argument is going to be demonstrating that you structured your class schedule specifically to remain available for full-time work. Evening and weekend classes are actually ideal for this argument because they show clear intent to accommodate employment. One thing that might help your case: if you can show you were actively job searching during January-April, that's strong evidence you remained available for work. Print out any job applications, emails with potential employers, or records from WorkSource if you used their services. Also, regarding the "refused to modify schedule" claim - this sounds like they might have misinterpreted something from your CAT application. Make sure you get a copy of exactly what you submitted in April so you can address any misunderstandings directly in your appeal. The $7,850 overpayment is definitely scary, but don't let that pressure you into not appealing. From what I've seen, people who can prove they remained available for work despite school enrollment often win these appeals. Document everything and stick to the facts about your availability during the contested period.

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are u sure u selected alternate year? sometimes the system just does that automatically. happened to me in january

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You know, I'm not actually 100% sure. The application was confusing and I might have selected it without understanding what it meant. Either way, I need to get it fixed!

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Just checking back - were you able to get this resolved? For anyone else with this issue, here's a quick explanation of the base years: If you applied in April 2025: - Regular base year: January-December 2024 - Alternate base year: April 2024-March 2025 So if most of your work hours were in early 2024, the regular base year would be better. If most were more recent, alternate might be better. The system should check both automatically, but sometimes it doesn't.

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Success! I finally got through to ESD this morning and explained the situation. The agent was really helpful and checked my regular base year, which had plenty of hours. She switched my claim over and said I should be eligible for benefits! My weekly benefit amount is $825 and I should see my first payment in 3-5 business days. Thanks everyone for your help!!!

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One last thing - if you do end up with an overpayment issue later because of how severance was handled, don't panic. You can usually work out a payment plan with Washington ESD or appeal if you think there was an error in how they calculated things.

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Good to know there are options if something goes wrong. This whole process is intimidating enough without worrying about making mistakes.

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Totally understand. Just remember that most issues can be resolved if you communicate with them and keep good records.

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I'm dealing with this same situation right now and it's so stressful! My company is giving me 3 months severance but I'm worried about how it'll affect my unemployment benefits. From reading all these responses, it sounds like I need to file my initial claim immediately and just be completely transparent about the severance payments when I do my weekly claims. Has anyone here actually had their severance payments result in zero unemployment benefits for certain weeks, or does Washington ESD usually still give you something even with severance income?

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Just want to confirm for OP - 26 weeks is indeed the standard maximum in Washington for regular unemployment benefits. No extensions currently available, so plan accordingly. Good luck with your job search!

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful info. Sounds like I need to get my claim filed ASAP and start job searching aggressively.

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You've got this! 26 weeks is enough time if you stay focused and organized.

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Just to add one more perspective - I was in a similar situation last year after getting laid off from a logistics job. The 26 weeks in Washington is pretty standard, but what really helped me was treating those first few weeks like a full-time job search. I set up a daily routine with applications, networking, and skill-building. Made it through 22 weeks before landing something. The key is starting strong right away - don't let the safety net make you complacent. Also, WorkSource has some decent resources for resume help and interview prep if you haven't checked them out yet.

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Update us when you finally get through! It helps to know what methods actually work so others can try the same approach.

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Will do. Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. Going to try the Claimyr service and see if that works.

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I've been in a similar situation and found that persistence is key. One thing that worked for me was calling the 800-318-6022 number repeatedly using redial - I would call, get busy signal, hang up immediately, and redial. Sometimes after 20-30 attempts in a row I'd get through to the hold queue. It's tedious but better than waiting hours just to get disconnected. Also, if you're facing eviction, make sure to mention that urgency when you do get through - they may be able to expedite your case or connect you with additional resources.

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