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One more important note: When you have your exit meeting, try to get them to explicitly state the reason for your separation in writing. If they say it's due to "business needs," "reorganization," "position elimination," or similar terms, ask for that in an email or letter. This documentation will be valuable if there's any dispute about your UI eligibility. When you file your claim, you'll have the opportunity to explain the circumstances. Be clear that you were laid off but received severance with certain conditions. The ESD adjudicators are familiar with these situations and will look at the totality of circumstances, not just the language in a severance agreement. As others have mentioned, your severance may delay the start of your benefits, but it won't necessarily make you ineligible altogether. Make sure you're completing all your weekly claims during this time, even if you're not receiving payments yet.
I'll definitely ask for the reason in writing. Would an email confirmation work, or should I ask for a formal letter? And good tip about continuing weekly claims even during the severance period - I wouldn't have known to do that.
An email confirmation should be perfectly fine! Just make sure it clearly states the business reason for the separation. I actually went through something similar a few months ago - my manager sent me an email saying my position was "eliminated due to budget constraints" and that was exactly what I needed when ESD asked for documentation. Also, yes - definitely keep filing those weekly claims even if you're not getting paid yet. It keeps your claim active and ensures you don't miss out on any benefits once the severance period ends. Good luck with your exit meeting tomorrow!
I'm going through something very similar right now! My company announced layoffs last week and my position is being eliminated at the end of this month. I haven't had my exit meeting yet, but I'm already worried about the same thing - that they'll try to make it look like I'm voluntarily leaving. Reading through everyone's responses here is really reassuring. It sounds like the key is being completely honest with ESD about what actually happened, regardless of what the paperwork says. I'm definitely going to document everything and ask for the business reason in writing like others suggested. One question for those who've been through this - how long did it typically take for ESD to make a decision on your claim? I'm trying to plan my finances and wondering if there might be delays beyond just the severance period. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - it's so helpful to know we're not alone in dealing with these corporate tactics!
Final thought - make sure you understand the difference between 'refusing' a job and 'not being selected' for a job. Only actual refusals of job offers need to be reported to Washington ESD. If you interview and they don't offer you the position, that's different.
I went through something very similar about 6 months ago. Had a marketing background like you and got offered a basic admin role at 60% of my previous salary. Washington ESD actually sided with me when I refused it because the skill level was so far below my experience. The key things that helped my case: I documented my 12+ years of marketing experience, showed the huge pay cut, and explained how taking such a step backward would hurt my long-term career prospects. I also made sure to keep applying for appropriate positions in my field to show I was actively job searching. Don't let them pressure you into taking something that doesn't make sense for your situation - just make sure you have solid documentation of why it's not suitable work.
I'm facing a really similar dilemma! I have a finance background and just got offered a basic receptionist job at about 65% of my previous salary. Your story about Washington ESD understanding the career impact issue is so encouraging. I've been worried that they'd just see it as me being "picky" but you're absolutely right about how taking such a huge step backward could hurt future job prospects. Employers would definitely question why someone with finance experience took a receptionist role. Did you have to provide copies of your resume or previous job descriptions to prove your skill level, or was explaining your experience in the weekly claim enough? I want to make sure I document this refusal properly.
I'm in a really similar situation with my IT background! Got offered a basic data entry position at about 50% of my previous salary after 10 years in systems administration. Your success story is exactly what I needed to hear - I was so worried Washington ESD would think I'm just being picky, but you're absolutely right about the long-term career damage. Taking such a massive step backward would make it really hard to explain to future IT employers and could basically reset my entire career trajectory. I'm curious - when you documented your refusal, did you focus more on the immediate salary/skill mismatch or did you also emphasize how it would hurt your future earning potential and career growth? I want to make sure I frame this properly when I report it to Washington ESD.
I'm in a similar situation as a freelance graphic designer - been struggling with inconsistent income and wondering about my options. This thread has been really eye-opening about the W-2 wage requirements. I had a part-time marketing job last year that I totally forgot about. Going to look into filing a claim too. It's frustrating how the system works against independent contractors, but at least there might be some hope if you've had traditional employment recently. Thanks for asking this question OP - you've helped more people than just yourself!
That's exactly what this community is for - helping each other navigate these complex systems! I'm glad my question ended up being useful for other freelancers too. It's crazy how many of us are in similar boats but don't realize there might be options. Definitely file that claim based on your marketing job - even if it's a small amount, every bit helps when you're struggling with irregular income. Good luck with your application!
This whole conversation has been incredibly helpful! I'm also a freelancer (photographer) and had no idea that previous W-2 wages could still count toward unemployment eligibility. I worked at a coffee shop for about 8 months in early 2023 before going full-time with my photography business. The creative industries have been hit hard lately and I've been barely scraping by. Reading through all these responses gives me hope that I might actually qualify for some benefits. It's really frustrating that the system doesn't recognize our self-employment income, but at least knowing about the W-2 wage option is something. Going to gather my old pay stubs and file a claim this week!
Yes! This thread has been such a game-changer for so many of us freelancers. I had no idea about any of this either until I posted my question. It's amazing how many people are in similar situations but don't know their options. Your coffee shop job from 2023 sounds like it could definitely qualify you - that's almost exactly like my retail situation. I'm filing my claim tomorrow and I'd love to hear how yours goes too. Maybe we can update each other on the process? It's so much less scary when you know other people are going through the same thing. Really hoping this works out for all of us creative professionals who've been struggling!
I'm so glad this thread is helping fellow creatives! As someone who's been in the gig economy for a while, I had no idea about the W-2 wage eligibility either. Your coffee shop experience sounds very promising - 8 months should definitely meet the minimum requirements that DeShawn mentioned earlier. It's really encouraging to see how many of us are discovering we might have options we didn't know about. The creative fields have been brutal lately with so much uncertainty. I'd love to hear updates on how everyone's claims go - maybe we should start a follow-up thread to share our experiences with the application process? Having this kind of peer support makes such a difference when dealing with bureaucratic systems like ESD.
Final thought - don't stress too much about the process. I know it's easier said than done when you're waiting for benefits, but most people who were legitimately laid off or fired without misconduct do eventually get approved. The system isn't perfect but it generally works. And if you need help reaching Washington ESD during the process, services like Claimyr can be a real lifesaver for getting through to actual people who can help.
I went through a similar contested claim situation last year when my employer claimed I was fired for "violating company policy" but really they were just downsizing and didn't want to pay unemployment. The adjudication process was nerve-wracking but I kept detailed records of everything - all my emails, performance reviews, witness statements from coworkers who saw what really happened. Washington ESD ultimately approved my claim after about 5 weeks of investigation. The key is being thorough and honest in your fact-finding response. Don't let them intimidate you - if you were truly terminated unfairly, the evidence will speak for itself. Stay strong and document everything!
This is really encouraging to hear! I'm dealing with something very similar where my employer is claiming "performance issues" but I suspect it's really because I reported safety violations. It's so stressful waiting for the investigation, but your advice about keeping detailed records makes total sense. I've been documenting everything I can remember and gathering any text messages or emails that might help my case. Five weeks feels like forever when you're waiting for benefits, but at least there's hope at the end. Thank you for sharing your experience - it gives me confidence that if I present the facts clearly, Washington ESD will make the right decision.
Paige Cantoni
I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago - 8 weeks stuck in adjudication, facing eviction, the whole nightmare. Here's what finally worked for me: I called the governor's office AND my state senator's office on the same day, then followed up with written complaints to both within 24 hours. The key was being very specific about the timeline and financial impact. In your written communication, include: - Exact dates of when you filed and when adjudication started - Number of attempted contacts with ESD (you mentioned 23 calls) - Specific financial hardship (mention the apartment situation with timeline) - Your claim number and contact info The senator's office actually got back to me first and had someone from ESD call me within 3 business days. Turns out my case was just sitting in a queue with no one assigned to review it. Sometimes you really do need that external pressure to get things moving. Don't give up - 9 weeks is definitely long enough to warrant escalation. You're not asking for special treatment, just for them to do their job.
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Kaitlyn Jenkins
•This is exactly the kind of detailed roadmap I needed! Thank you for breaking down the specific steps and what to include in the written complaints. It's really encouraging to hear that someone in a similar situation actually got results. I'm going to call both offices tomorrow morning and then send follow-up letters with all those details you mentioned. The fact that your case was just sitting unassigned is so frustrating but at least gives me hope that mine might be the same situation. I really appreciate you taking the time to share what worked for you!
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Kolton Murphy
I've been watching this thread and wanted to add one more resource that helped me when I was in a similar situation last year. The Washington State Office of the Ombuds can sometimes help with state agency issues like this. Their number is 1-800-562-6028 and they have a specific process for ESD complaints. What made the difference in my case was calling them AND filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau against ESD at the same time. The BBB complaint creates a paper trail that agencies have to respond to within a certain timeframe. It sounds like overkill, but when you're facing eviction, you need to hit them from multiple angles. Also, if you do get through to ESD (whether through Claimyr or the governor's office), ask to speak with a supervisor immediately. Don't let them tell you to "just wait" - after 9 weeks you have every right to demand escalation within their system. Get the supervisor's name and direct number if possible. Hang in there - I know how hopeless this feels but you're doing all the right things by reaching out everywhere you can.
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Andre Rousseau
•Wow, I had no idea about the Ombuds office or the BBB option - thank you for sharing these additional resources! It's overwhelming to think about hitting them from all these different angles, but you're absolutely right that desperate times call for multiple approaches. I'm definitely going to add both of these to my action plan for this week. The tip about demanding to speak with a supervisor right away is gold - I've been way too polite in my previous calls when I should have been more assertive after waiting this long. Really appreciate everyone in this thread sharing what actually worked for them instead of just sympathy. Gives me hope that there's light at the end of this tunnel!
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