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One final point about the monthly test versus annual test: After your first year on benefits, Social Security will automatically switch you to the annual test. You don't need to contact them for this change. So in 2025, they'll use the monthly test, and in 2026, they'll automatically use the annual test. For 2025, as long as you stay under $1,840 in January, you should be fine. For the rest of 2025, if you've fully retired, you won't have any earnings to worry about anyway. But if you do any part-time work later in 2025, you'll need to stay under the monthly limit for any month you work.
I'm dealing with a similar situation as a newcomer to Social Security benefits! Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. One thing I want to add that might help other newcomers: I called my former HR department to get a written breakdown of which hours were worked in which month, since my final paycheck also spanned two months. They were actually really helpful and provided a detailed breakdown that I can keep for my records. It might be worth reaching out to your HR department too, Natasha, just to have that documentation from the employer side as well as your own records. This whole earnings test thing is way more complicated than I expected when I first applied for benefits!
wait i'm confused...if i'm getting ssi now and my husband retires next year do i get a higher benefit? or do i have to pick one or the other?? we've been married 23 years
SSI is completely different from retirement benefits. SSI is a needs-based program with very strict asset and income limits. If you're on SSI, any additional income (including spousal Social Security benefits) will reduce your SSI payment dollar for dollar after the first $20. You should talk to an SSA representative about your specific situation.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this confusion! This is actually one of the most common misunderstandings about Social Security benefits. What you're experiencing is called "dual entitlement" - you can't receive both your own benefit AND the full spousal benefit stacked on top of each other. Here's what's happening: SSA takes the higher of either (1) your own retirement benefit OR (2) 50% of your ex-husband's Primary Insurance Amount. If 50% of his PIA is higher than your own benefit, you get your own benefit PLUS just enough spousal benefit to bring you up to that 50% level. So if your own benefit is $1,288 and 50% of his PIA is $1,500, you'd only get $212 more per month ($1,500 total), not $1,500 on top of your $1,288. The good news is your calculation is probably correct - it's just that the "50% spousal benefit" isn't what most people think it means. Definitely call to verify they used the right ex-spouse's record though, just to be sure!
This is such a helpful explanation! I'm not in this situation yet but I've been wondering about this exact scenario. So just to make sure I understand - if my own projected benefit at FRA is $800 and my ex-husband's PIA is $2400 (so 50% would be $1200), I would get $1200 total, not $800 + $1200 = $2000? That's a huge difference from what I was expecting. Thank you for breaking this down so clearly - I need to completely redo my retirement planning now!
Thanks everyone for the helpful advice! Sounds like 3 months before is the sweet spot. Going to start gathering my documents now so I'm ready to apply in February. One last question - is it better to apply online or should I make an appointment at my local office?
Online is generally faster and more convenient. The SSA website will walk you through each step and you can save your progress if needed. Local offices still have appointment backlogs in many areas. That said, if your situation is complex (foreign work history, survivor benefits, etc.), an in-person appointment might be better.
I just went through this process myself last year! Applied exactly 3 months before my FRA birthday and everything went smoothly. One tip that saved me time - create your my Social Security account online first if you haven't already. You can review your earnings history and get an estimate of your benefits before applying. Also, certified copies of documents work just fine - you don't need originals. The online application took me about 30 minutes and I was able to save it partway through when I realized I needed to grab my bank routing number. Got my first payment right on schedule!
One last thing to be aware of: Even though there's no penalty for working at FRA, you should still report any significant changes in your earning situation to SSA. This helps avoid any potential misunderstandings or incorrect benefit calculations. You can report wages through your my Social Security account online or by calling them directly.
Just wanted to add something that might help with your planning - since you mentioned wanting to be extra careful about the earnings limit before your FRA month. You can actually request that SSA withhold taxes from your Social Security benefits if you're concerned about the tax implications of having both work income and SS benefits. This can help avoid a big tax bill at the end of the year. You can set this up through your my Social Security account online or by submitting Form W-4V. Given that you'll have both salary and SS income for part of the year, it might be worth considering to make tax time easier!
Felicity Bud
Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful - since you're planning to work until June 2025 and your FRA is August 2025, you might want to check if those extra months of high earnings ($75k annually) will significantly boost your own Social Security benefit calculation. Social Security uses your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, so if you're still in your peak earning years, those final months could potentially push out some lower-earning years from earlier in your career. You can create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov to see your earnings history and get benefit estimates. Also, don't forget that once you do apply in August 2025, your benefits will be retroactive to your FRA date, so you won't lose any money by waiting those extra couple months. The plan Austin outlined really does seem like the cleanest approach for your situation!
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Caleb Stone
•That's such a great point about the retroactive benefits! I hadn't realized that waiting until August wouldn't actually cost me anything since they'd backdate to my FRA. And you're absolutely right about checking my earnings history - I should look at whether these final high-earning months will bump out some of those early career years when I was making much less. Thanks for mentioning the my Social Security account - I'll definitely set that up to run the numbers before making my final decision.
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Lola Perez
I went through a very similar situation about 3 years ago! I was also 66 and still working when I started looking into ex-spouse benefits. One thing that really helped me was requesting a "benefit verification letter" from SSA that shows what my projected benefits would be at different ages (62, FRA, and 70). This let me compare my own benefit projections against the estimated ex-spouse benefit without having to file anything yet. Also, since you mentioned your ex is 68, he's likely already collecting, which makes the process smoother. When I applied, I just needed his full name and Social Security number - SSA handled the rest of the verification internally without involving him at all. The waiting until August 2025 plan that others suggested really is smart. I wish I had been more patient instead of rushing into filing early. Those extra delayed retirement credits can add up to significant money over the long term, especially if you're in good health and expect to live a normal lifespan.
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