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Thanks for this comprehensive thread - it's really clarified the 10-year rule for me. I'm actually going through a divorce right now and my lawyer mentioned this exact issue. We're at 9 years and 4 months married, and she suggested we could delay finalizing the divorce by about 8 months to hit the 10-year mark if I wanted to preserve potential Social Security benefits. It's a tough decision because emotionally I just want the divorce over with, but financially it makes sense to wait. My ex-husband has a much higher earnings record than me, so those survivor benefits could be significant down the road. Has anyone else faced this kind of timing decision during their divorce? I know it sounds calculating, but when you're looking at potentially losing thousands in future benefits over a few months, it's hard to ignore the financial impact.

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I completely understand your dilemma! It's not calculating at all - you're making a smart financial decision that could significantly impact your future security. Eight months might feel like an eternity when you're ready to move on, but those potential survivor benefits could be worth tens of thousands of dollars over your lifetime. I've seen several people in similar situations, and most who were close to the 10-year mark chose to wait. The emotional cost of a few more months is usually worth the long-term financial protection. You could use this time to finalize other aspects of your divorce settlement or just focus on your own healing process. Have you calculated what the potential benefits might be worth based on his earnings record? That might help you decide if the wait is worth it. Either way, it's great that your lawyer brought this up - many people don't learn about this rule until it's too late.

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As someone who works in family law, I can confirm that the 10-year marriage duration requirement is indeed strictly enforced by SSA. I've seen many clients over the years who were just months or even weeks short of the 10-year mark, and unfortunately none were able to qualify for divorced spouse benefits. One thing I always tell clients going through divorce is to consider this rule early in the process if they're anywhere close to the 10-year mark. While it might seem awkward to delay a divorce for financial reasons, the potential lifetime value of those benefits can be substantial - especially if there's a significant difference in earnings records. For those already divorced and short of 10 years, remember that you may still be eligible for benefits based on your own work record, and if you remarry, you might potentially qualify through a future spouse's record (assuming that marriage lasts 10+ years). The system may seem inflexible, but having clear rules does prevent a lot of subjective determinations and potential disputes. It's just unfortunate when people fall just short of the requirement.

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Thank you for sharing your professional perspective on this! It's really helpful to hear from someone in family law who has seen this situation play out multiple times. I'm curious - in your experience, what percentage of clients who are close to the 10-year mark actually choose to delay their divorce to preserve these benefits? And do you find that most people are aware of this rule when they start the divorce process, or is it usually something they learn about later? I imagine it must be frustrating for both attorneys and clients when this comes up as a surprise near the end of proceedings.

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To make sure we've got this clear for the original poster: If your FRA is 67 and 4 months and you were born on September 17th, your FRA is January 17th. You can file for benefits up to 4 months before January (as early as September) and specify January as your start month. Your benefits will start in January (the full month is credited to you even though your FRA is on the 17th), and your first payment will arrive in February on the third Wednesday. There's no advantage to waiting until January to file - in fact, filing 2-3 months early (while still specifying January as your start date) is recommended to avoid processing delays.

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Thank you all so much! This was incredibly helpful. I understand now that I should: 1. File 2-3 months before January (October/November) 2. Specify January as my benefit start month 3. Expect my first payment in February (for January's benefits) 4. Get paid on the third Wednesday of each month Much clearer than anything I found on the SSA website!

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Just want to add one more helpful tip for anyone reading this - when you do file your application (whether online or by phone), make sure to have your most recent tax return handy and any W-2s from the current year. SSA will need to verify your earnings history to calculate your benefit amount. Also, if you're married, they'll ask about your spouse's Social Security number and birth date even if they're not filing yet, as this affects potential spousal benefits down the line. The online application at ssa.gov is usually the fastest way to apply and you can save your progress if you need to gather documents. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to navigating Social Security and retirement planning, so having a checklist of what documents to gather beforehand is great. One question - if I'm currently still working part-time and plan to continue after I start collecting benefits, will that affect my application process or do I just report those earnings later? I've heard there might be an earnings test that could reduce benefits if you earn too much while collecting before your full retirement age, but I'm not sure how that works if you're already at FRA when you start collecting.

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also dont forget they only count WAGES and SELF-EMPLOYMENT toward the limit!! investment income, pensions, etc DONT count against the earnings test. that really helped me maximize my survivors check

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Just wanted to add one more important point that might help you plan better - Social Security also has what's called a "grace year" provision. In the year you reach Full Retirement Age, the earnings limit is much higher (around $59,520 for 2025) and they only count earnings BEFORE the month you reach FRA. Plus, the penalty is reduced to $1 withheld for every $3 over the limit instead of $1 for every $2. So if you're turning 67 in 2025 or 2026, that could make a big difference in your planning. Also, any benefits they withhold due to excess earnings aren't lost forever - they recalculate your benefit at FRA to give you credit for the months they withheld, which increases your monthly payment going forward.

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Thank you everyone for the thoughtful responses! Based on your advice, I'm leaning toward delaying until 70 while continuing to max out my 457(b) contributions and drawing from my brokerage accounts as needed. Given my family history of longevity and current good health, the guaranteed 24% increase seems worth waiting for. I'll schedule a meeting with my financial advisor to map out a year-by-year withdrawal strategy that minimizes taxes during this bridge period. Really appreciate all the insights!

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Sounds like you've gotten some excellent advice here! As someone who works in retirement planning, I'd add one more consideration: review your projected monthly expenses during retirement to make sure you have adequate bridge funding for those 3 years between FRA and age 70. Since you're consulting part-time and have that $48K income, you might want to calculate whether continuing that work (even at a reduced level) plus 457(b) contributions plus brokerage withdrawals will comfortably cover your lifestyle. The peace of mind from having a solid cash flow plan during the delay period is just as important as the math behind the decision. Also consider setting up a spreadsheet to track how your "combined income" calculation will change once you start SS at 70 - it'll help with tax planning in those early retirement years.

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That's really solid advice about mapping out the cash flow during those bridge years! I hadn't considered creating a spreadsheet to track the combined income calculation changes - that's brilliant for tax planning purposes. Since I'm still relatively new to all this retirement planning stuff, would you recommend any specific tools or templates for modeling out these scenarios? I want to make sure I'm not missing any variables when I meet with my advisor.

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As a newcomer here, I really appreciate seeing this helpful discussion! It's reassuring to know that so many community members are willing to share accurate information and help clarify confusing rumors. I'm also someone who relies on Social Security payments and timing is crucial for budgeting medical expenses and other necessities. It's good to see that Gabriel Freeman was able to get official confirmation from SSA that the November 2025 schedule remains unchanged. This kind of misinformation can cause unnecessary stress for seniors who depend on these payments. Thanks to everyone who took the time to provide factual responses!

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right about how stressful these kinds of rumors can be. As someone new here, you'll find this group is generally very good about helping each other navigate SSA-related questions and concerns. It's unfortunate that misinformation spreads so easily, especially in places like senior centers where people are just trying to help each other. Having reliable sources and people willing to do the legwork to get official confirmation really makes a difference for all of us who depend on these benefits.

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As another newcomer to this community, I want to echo what others have said about how valuable it is to have members who take the time to verify information with official sources. I've been receiving Social Security for about two years now, and I've learned that rumors like this one can spread quickly, especially in community settings where people are genuinely trying to help each other. What I find particularly helpful about this discussion is seeing the different ways people approach getting accurate information - from checking the official SSA website to calling directly (even with the challenges of long wait times) to using services that can help connect you faster. It's a great reminder that when in doubt, always go to the official source rather than relying on secondhand information, no matter how well-intentioned it might be.

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Welcome to our community! Your point about rumors spreading in well-intentioned community settings really resonates with me. I've noticed this happens a lot - someone hears something third or fourth-hand and passes it along thinking they're being helpful, but it can cause real anxiety for those of us managing tight budgets around our payment schedules. I'm glad to see experienced members like Gabriel Freeman and KaiEsmeralda taking the initiative to verify facts directly with SSA. It's also encouraging to see people sharing practical solutions like that Claimyr service for getting through to representatives more efficiently. These kinds of resources are invaluable when you really need to speak to someone official but can't spend hours on hold.

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