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To answer your question about survivor benefits more specifically: If your husband passes away, you would be eligible for survivor benefits, which can be up to 100% of what he was receiving (not the 50% limit of spousal benefits). However, if you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, they would be reduced. Unlike with retirement benefits, you can actually claim survivor benefits as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled). At 60, you'd receive about 71.5% of your deceased spouse's benefit, and the percentage increases until you reach FRA, when you'd get 100%. The rules for survivor benefits are different from spousal benefits in several important ways. You can also switch between your own retirement benefit and survivor benefits at different times to maximize your lifetime benefits.

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Thank you! This is really helpful information. I think I need to carefully consider whether the permanent reduction is worth getting benefits earlier. It sounds like there's a significant financial advantage to waiting until FRA if I can manage it.

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I'm in a very similar situation and have been researching this extensively. One thing that might help with your decision is to calculate the "break-even" point. If you claim at 62 and get reduced benefits, versus waiting until 67 for full benefits, you need to figure out at what age the total amount received would be equal. For many people, this break-even point is around age 78-80. So if you expect to live beyond that age, waiting usually makes financial sense. But if you have health concerns or really need the income now, claiming early might be the right choice despite the permanent reduction. You might also want to consider your husband's age and health, since that affects potential survivor benefits down the road.

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This break-even analysis is really smart! I never thought about calculating it that way. Do you know if there are any online calculators that can help with this kind of analysis? I'm pretty good with numbers but want to make sure I'm considering all the variables correctly. Also, you mentioned considering my husband's health for survivor benefits - that's another layer I hadn't fully thought through. This decision feels so much more complex than I initially realized!

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This is such valuable information for families! I'm in a similar situation - my husband is planning to retire next year and we have a 14-year-old. I had no idea the children could get benefits even if I'm not collecting yet. One thing I'm wondering about - do the kids need to provide any special documentation when you apply for their benefits, like birth certificates or school enrollment records? And does it matter if they live with both parents or if there's a custody arrangement involved? Want to make sure I have everything ready when the time comes!

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Yes, you'll definitely need documentation! Birth certificates are required to prove the parent-child relationship, and they may ask for school records to verify full-time student status if your child is 18-19. For custody situations, SSA typically pays benefits to the parent the child primarily lives with, but both divorced parents can't receive benefits for the same child - only one can be the representative payee. If there's joint custody, you'll need to work out who will receive the payments. I'd recommend gathering birth certificates, Social Security cards for the kids, and any custody documents now so you're prepared when you apply!

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I just went through this process myself about 6 months ago when I retired early at 62. My twins were 16 at the time and I was worried about the same thing since my spouse won't be eligible for another 5 years. The good news is that your kids absolutely CAN get benefits based on just your record! When I filed for my retirement benefits, I made sure to mention I had minor children during the application process. The SSA representative walked me through everything and set up their benefits at the same time. Each of my kids now receives about 40% of my benefit amount (it would have been 50% each but the family maximum kicked in slightly). The whole process was actually smoother than I expected once I got the right person on the phone. My advice is to apply for everything together in one appointment - don't wait or try to add the kids later as a separate process. Also keep good records because you'll get annual forms to report how you're using the children's benefit money.

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This is really encouraging to hear from someone who just went through the process! I'm curious about one thing - you mentioned your kids each get about 40% instead of the full 50% due to the family maximum. With twins, that makes sense, but for the original poster with two kids, do you think they'd face the same reduction? I'm trying to understand how that family maximum calculation works in practice. Also, did you find the annual reporting forms difficult to complete? I'm wondering what kind of documentation I should keep track of for those.

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I'm really sorry for your loss, Nia. This is such a difficult situation to navigate while you're still grieving. One thing that might help with your decision-making is to get your actual survivor benefit estimate from SSA before you decide. You can create a my Social Security account online to see what your monthly survivor benefit would be at different ages. That way you can do the math more precisely rather than guessing. Also, don't forget that if you do decide to claim survivor benefits now, you can always reassess later. For example, if your work situation changes or you decide the earnings test is too much of a hassle, you could potentially suspend your survivor benefits and restart them later, or switch to your own retirement benefit if that becomes more advantageous. The most important thing is not to rush into a decision. Take time to understand all your options, maybe even consider meeting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning. Your situation with the rental income actually gives you more flexibility than many people have.

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Thank you for the kind words and practical advice, Aiden. You're absolutely right that I shouldn't rush this decision - it's been overwhelming trying to figure everything out while still processing my loss. I didn't know I could get actual benefit estimates online through my Social Security account. That's exactly what I need to do the real calculations instead of guessing. And you make a good point about being able to reassess later if my situation changes. I think my next steps will be: 1) Get my actual survivor benefit estimates online, 2) Calculate different scenarios with varying work hours, and 3) maybe talk to a financial advisor like you suggested. The rental income flexibility is something I hadn't fully appreciated until this discussion. Thanks everyone for all the insights - this has been incredibly helpful in understanding my options!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Nia. This thread has covered the earnings limit really well, but I wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your planning. Since you mentioned you're 62 and about 5 years from FRA (so FRA at 67), you might want to look into whether your own retirement benefit at age 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit. If your own benefit would be significantly higher, you could potentially use a "claim and switch" strategy: 1. Claim reduced survivor benefits now (even with the earnings test reducing them) 2. Let your own retirement benefit grow with delayed retirement credits until age 70 3. Switch to your own higher benefit at 70 This only works if your own benefit at 70 would exceed the survivor benefit, but it's worth checking. Your own benefit grows by about 8% per year from FRA to age 70, so it can get quite substantial. Given your rental income providing some financial cushion, you have more options than many people. The online benefit estimator others mentioned will show both your survivor benefit and your own retirement benefit projections, which will help you see if this strategy makes sense for your situation.

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That's a really interesting strategy, Paolo! I hadn't thought about the possibility of switching from survivor benefits to my own retirement benefit later. The idea of letting my own benefit grow with those delayed retirement credits while collecting reduced survivor benefits now could potentially work out better in the long run. I'll definitely need to look at both benefit projections when I check the online estimator. Given that I've been working and contributing to Social Security for many years, there's a chance my own benefit at 70 might be higher than the survivor benefit. The 8% annual growth from FRA to 70 is substantial - that could add up to a 24% increase over those three years. This gives me yet another scenario to calculate alongside the work-hour reduction strategy. Between the rental income providing some financial stability and these various claiming strategies, I'm feeling more optimistic that there might be a path forward that works. Thanks for adding this perspective - the "claim and switch" approach is definitely something I need to explore!

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Since several people have mentioned the earnings test, let me provide some clarity on that since it might affect your decision: 1. For 2025, the earnings limit is projected to be around $22,800 if you're under full retirement age for the full year (this is an estimate based on current trends). 2. If you earn over that amount, $1 in benefits will be withheld for every $2 you earn above the limit. 3. However, it's important to understand that this isn't a penalty - it's a deferral. After you reach FRA, your benefit will be recalculated to give you credit for months when benefits were withheld. 4. If you're planning to continue working full-time at a job with significant earnings, you might want to calculate whether it makes sense to claim at 60 or wait until your earnings decrease or you reach FRA. I strongly recommend discussing these specifics with an SSA representative who can look at your exact situation and provide personalized guidance.

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Thank you for explaining the earnings test in detail. I hadn't realized they recalculate after you reach FRA - that's good to know! Based on my current salary (about $65K annually), it sounds like a significant portion of my survivor benefits would be withheld if I claim at 60. I'll definitely need to discuss whether waiting might be more advantageous in my specific situation.

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I'm in a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from my SSA appointment last month. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to compare different scenarios before my meeting. I calculated: 1. What I'd receive at 60 with the earnings test reduction 2. What I'd get if I waited until I could reduce my work hours 3. My break-even point for when the withheld benefits would be made up With your $65K salary, you're looking at about $42K over the earnings limit, which means roughly $21K in withheld benefits annually. Even though you get credit later, that's a significant cash flow impact. Another option to consider: some people reduce their work hours or negotiate part-time arrangements around age 60 to stay under the earnings limit while still collecting survivor benefits. It's not feasible for everyone, but worth exploring if your job allows flexibility. The SSA representative was very helpful in running through different scenarios with actual numbers from my husband's record. Don't feel like you have to figure it all out beforehand - they have tools that can show you exactly how different timing decisions would affect your benefits.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I think I'll try the online application first since my case is straightforward, but I'll leave plenty of time before my 70th birthday in case something goes wrong and I need to reach a real person. Having that Claimyr service as a backup option is reassuring too if I can't get through. I really appreciate all the different perspectives - it's given me a much clearer picture of what to expect!

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Smart approach! And don't forget to take screenshots of every page as you complete the online application. I forgot to do that and regretted it later when I had questions about something I'd entered. Good luck with your switch, and congrats on maximizing your benefit!

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact transition 18 months ago. I successfully switched from survivor benefits to my own retirement benefit at 70 using the online system. The key things that helped me: 1. I applied exactly 3 months before my 70th birthday as recommended 2. Had all my documents ready (even though they already had them on file) 3. Double-checked that I selected "I am currently receiving Social Security benefits" when prompted 4. Made sure to print the confirmation page with my receipt number The transition was seamless - my survivor benefits stopped automatically the month my retirement benefits began, with no gap in payments. My first retirement payment was about $1,100 more than my survivor benefit, so waiting until 70 was definitely worth it. One tip: after you submit, you can check the status of your application online through your mySocialSecurity account. I checked mine weekly just for peace of mind. The whole process took about 6 weeks from application to first retirement payment. Good luck with your switch - it sounds like you've done your homework and will see a nice increase in your monthly benefit!

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Thank you for sharing your successful experience! It's really encouraging to hear from someone who went through this exact process recently. The $1,100 monthly increase sounds amazing - that really shows the value of waiting until 70. I especially appreciate the tip about checking the application status weekly through the online account. That will definitely help with peace of mind during the waiting period. Did you have to do anything special when your first retirement payment came in, or did SSA handle everything automatically on their end?

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