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btw when u actually apply for SS make sure to check ur estimated benefit on the mySocialSecurity website bc sometimes they mess up the calculations.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been checking mine regularly. It's actually gone up a bit in the last few years since I've been earning more at my current job.

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Just want to add another perspective here - I'm a retired federal employee and went through something similar when I withdrew from my TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) for home improvements. The SSA treats TSP withdrawals exactly the same as IRA/401k withdrawals - no impact on Social Security benefits at all. What really helped me was getting everything in writing from SSA. When I had questions, I submitted them through the secure messaging on the mySocialSecurity website rather than calling. That way I had documentation of their responses. Might be worth doing if you want extra peace of mind about your situation. Sounds like you made a smart financial decision for your home purchase - don't let the worry overshadow that accomplishment!

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Just wanted to add another option that might help - if you live near a Social Security office that offers Saturday hours (some do during busy periods), that could be a good alternative to avoid taking time off work. Also, when you submit the W-4V form, ask specifically about getting email confirmation when the change is processed. Some offices are starting to offer that service, though it's not standard everywhere yet. I learned this when I helped my neighbor with her withholding change last month. The whole process is definitely outdated, but at least there are a few small conveniences creeping in at some locations.

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That's great to know about Saturday hours! I had no idea some offices offered that. I'll definitely call ahead to check if my local office has weekend availability - that would be so much more convenient than trying to get there during work hours. The email confirmation option sounds promising too, even if it's not available everywhere yet. It's encouraging to hear that they're slowly modernizing at least some aspects of the process. Thanks for sharing what you learned helping your neighbor - these real-world tips are invaluable when dealing with SSA bureaucracy!

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I just went through this same process last month and can add a few more tips that might help. First, if you're planning to drop off the form in person, call ahead to confirm your local office is still accepting walk-ins for form submissions - some offices changed their policies during COVID and still require appointments for certain services. Second, if you decide to mail it, I'd strongly recommend using certified mail with a return receipt so you have proof it was delivered. Regular mail can get lost and then you're back to square one after waiting weeks. Finally, once your withholding change takes effect, keep an eye on your annual Social Security Statement (available in your my Social Security account) to make sure the withholding totals look correct for tax planning purposes. The whole paper form requirement is definitely frustrating in 2025, but at least the actual processing usually works once they receive it properly.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this difficult time with your husband. The advice you've received here is really solid - you absolutely can claim survivor benefits without being forced to take your own retirement benefits early. One additional thing I'd suggest is requesting a Social Security Statement online at ssa.gov/myaccount to see your projected benefits at different claiming ages. This will help you compare what you might receive as a survivor versus what your own benefit would be at FRA or age 70, so you can make the most informed decision about when to switch. Also, when the time comes to apply for survivor benefits, you can actually apply up to 3 months before you want the benefits to start. This can help avoid any processing delays. The benefits can begin as early as the month after your husband passes away. Take care of yourself during this incredibly challenging time. Having a plan for the financial aspects can be one less thing to worry about.

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This is really helpful advice about getting the Social Security Statement online. I hadn't thought about comparing the exact numbers beforehand, but that makes so much sense to help with planning when to switch benefits. And knowing I can apply up to 3 months early is great - I was worried about timing and processing delays during what will already be a difficult time. Thank you for taking the time to share these practical tips.

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I'm truly sorry for what you and your husband are going through. This is such a difficult situation, and I want to echo what others have said - you absolutely CAN claim survivor benefits without being forced to take your own retirement benefits early. Since you mentioned you were the higher earner, this strategy makes a lot of financial sense. You could take the survivor benefit (limited by the RIB-LIM rule as others explained) and then switch to your own higher benefit later - either at your FRA or even at 70 if waiting makes sense financially. One practical tip I haven't seen mentioned: when you're ready to apply for survivor benefits, consider making the appointment for a few weeks out rather than trying to handle everything immediately after your loss. The benefits can be retroactive up to 6 months, so you won't lose money by taking a little time to get organized emotionally and gather all your documents. Also, if you have any joint accounts or direct deposits set up with his Social Security, those will need to be changed when you switch to survivor benefits. The SSA can help you with that process. You're doing an incredible job caring for your husband during this time. Having a plan for the financial side will be one less burden when you're grieving.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Astrid. I went through something similar when my father passed last year. One thing that helped me was calling the SSA main number (1-800-772-1213) very early in the morning - around 8 AM when they open - or later in the evening before they close. The wait times tend to be shorter then. Also, if you have a my Social Security account online, you can check there to see if any payments have been processed recently. While you can't report the death online, it gives you a better picture of what's happening with her account. Don't worry too much about the timing - as long as you report it promptly and return any payments received after her death date, you won't be penalized. The SSA understands that families need time to handle these situations.

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Thank you Jacob, that's really helpful advice about the timing of calls. I didn't think about calling right when they open - I'll try that tomorrow morning. I do have access to her online account and you're right, it shows her last payment was deposited on December 3rd, so at least nothing has gone through since then. It's reassuring to know that SSA understands these situations take time to sort out. I'm feeling a bit less panicked about the whole process now.

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I'm really sorry for your loss, Astrid. Dealing with SSA bureaucracy while grieving is incredibly stressful. A few additional tips that might help: If you're calling SSA, try using their automated callback feature if available - you can request they call you back instead of waiting on hold. Also, when you do get through, ask the representative to put a "death alert" on her record immediately, which should prevent future payments even if you don't have all the paperwork yet. For the $255 death benefit, they can start the application process with just the funeral home's death notification, but you'll need to provide the official death certificate later to complete it. The key thing is getting that initial report filed ASAP to stop the monthly payments. If you're still having trouble reaching them by phone, some people have had success contacting their local congressman's office - they often have direct lines to SSA for constituent services. Hang in there, and don't hesitate to ask for help from family or friends with the paperwork if you need it.

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This is incredibly helpful, Carmen! I had no idea about the automated callback feature - that alone could save me hours of sitting on hold. The "death alert" suggestion is brilliant too. I'm definitely going to ask for that specifically when I call. The idea about contacting my congressman's office is interesting - I never would have thought of that as an option. Thank you so much for taking the time to provide such detailed advice during what I know is a difficult situation for everyone dealing with government services right now.

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I'm new to this community and just reading through this entire discussion has been so educational! I'm planning to apply for Social Security retirement benefits in the next few months, and honestly, I had no idea about any of these payment schedule complexities. The birth date payment system, the irregular timing for new beneficiaries in the first few months, the difference between retirement benefits vs other programs - none of this was clear to me before. @Sofia Peña, it sounds like you've gotten great advice here and that your situation is completely normal. From what everyone is saying, you're not missing any money, just experiencing the typical adjustment period as SSA sets up your regular payment schedule. For those of us who haven't applied yet, this thread is like a goldmine of practical information. I'm definitely going to bookmark this and refer back to it when I start my application process. Thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences - it makes navigating this system feel much less intimidating!

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@Jamal Harris Welcome to the community! I m'also pretty new here and just learning about all this stuff myself. This thread has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea the Social Security payment system was so complex! The birth date schedule thing was completely news to me, and knowing that new beneficiaries experience irregular timing for the first few months is really valuable information. It s'great that people here are so willing to share their real experiences rather than just pointing to confusing official websites. Definitely bookmark this thread - I know I will! Good luck with your upcoming application.

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As someone who recently went through the Social Security application process myself, I wanted to share what I learned that might help clarify things. When you apply for benefits to start in a specific month (like September in your case), there's often a lag in how the payment system processes new accounts. From what I experienced and what others have confirmed here, your September 27th payment was indeed for September benefits - you received it correctly. The gap in October is typical for new beneficiaries as SSA's system adjusts your payment schedule to align with the birth date payment calendar. Since your MySocialSecurity portal shows a payment scheduled for early November, that's your October benefit being paid with the adjusted timing. After that, you should start receiving regular payments on your designated Wednesday based on when you were born (2nd, 3rd, or 4th Wednesday of each month). I know it's nerve-wracking when you're counting on this income, but from everything shared in this thread, it sounds like you're experiencing the normal new beneficiary adjustment period. You're not losing any money - just dealing with some timing irregularities while they establish your regular payment schedule. Still worth calling SSA for peace of mind, but you can probably stop worrying about missing payments!

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