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u should also ask if ur granddaughter can get SSI too, sometimes kids can get both depending on the situation

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This isn't quite accurate. SSI is for people with limited income and resources. If the child will be receiving benefits from the grandparent's record AND the household income/resources are above the SSI limits, the child wouldn't qualify for SSI. The two programs have different eligibility requirements. But it never hurts to ask!

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Just want to add one more tip based on my experience - when you do make that appointment (whether by phone first or directly in-person), try to schedule it for early morning if possible. The offices tend to be less crowded and the staff is usually fresher and more patient. Also, make copies of ALL your documents before you go - they'll want to keep copies of everything and having your own set helps if anything gets misplaced. Good luck with the process! It sounds like you're well-prepared and asking all the right questions.

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I work for a disability advocacy organization and see cases like yours regularly. One thing that might help is requesting your husband's Social Security Statement to get a clearer picture of his potential benefits. You can do this as his spouse - SSA Form SSA-7050-F4 allows you to request another person's earnings record if you're married to them. Also, don't overlook that his recent steady employment at $25/hr could significantly boost his benefit calculation since Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings. If he works until his full retirement age, those final years of higher earnings will replace some of his earlier lower-earning years in the calculation. Given your health issues that forced early retirement, you might also want to explore whether you qualify for Social Security Disability benefits, which aren't reduced for early filing like retirement benefits are. It's worth investigating all your options!

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea I could request his Social Security Statement as his spouse. That form SSA-7050-F4 could give me the answers I need without having to contact him directly. And you're right about those recent higher-earning years potentially helping his calculation - I hadn't thought about how that might replace his earlier sporadic work periods. As for disability benefits, I looked into that when I first got sick but was told my condition didn't qualify. Maybe things have changed though, or I didn't understand the process well enough back then. Thank you for all these suggestions!

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Just wanted to add that even though you've been separated for 23 years, your legal marital status is what matters for Social Security purposes. The length of separation doesn't affect your eligibility for spousal or survivor benefits - only divorce would change that. One thing to keep in mind is timing. If your husband files for his own Social Security benefits, you can immediately apply for spousal benefits (assuming you meet the other requirements). You don't have to wait for him to reach full retirement age - he just needs to have filed for his own benefits first. Also, since you mentioned money is tight, remember that if you do qualify for additional benefits through his record, they can sometimes pay retroactive benefits for up to 6 months from when you apply. So don't delay in contacting SSA once he becomes eligible or if he passes away. The calculations can be complex, but given that he's had several recent years of decent earnings, there's definitely a chance his benefit could be high enough to increase your monthly payment. Good luck navigating this!

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Does anyone know when these changes actually start? I heard 2025 but not sure exactly when during the year?

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suppsed to be January 2025 for the WEP changes but govt always takes longer than they say lol

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I just remembered something IMPORTANT! If you have 30+ years of "substantial earnings" under Social Security, you might be COMPLETELY EXEMPT from WEP even under the current rules!!!! You should check if your 35 years of SS work all count as "substantial earnings" - the threshold changes each year. For 2023 it was around $28,050 I think?? If you have 30+ substantial years you might not even need to worry about WEP at all!!!!

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Oh that's a great point! I'll have to look at my earnings record and see if I have 30 years above that threshold. Some of my early teaching years at the private school probably had lower salaries, but my corporate years were all well above that amount. This gives me another avenue to check. Thank you!

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This is such valuable information! I had no idea about the substantial earnings exemption. For anyone checking this, you can find your year-by-year substantial earnings thresholds on the SSA website or in your annual Social Security statement. @Keisha Robinson, definitely worth pulling up your earnings record on your mySocialSecurity account to count how many years you earned above each year's threshold. Even if you don't have 30 substantial years now, the new proportional formula should still be much better for your situation than the current WEP reduction.

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After reading through this thread again, I realized I need to correct something in my earlier response. The provision about disabled spouses collecting as early as 50 only applies to surviving spouses (widows/widowers) whose partners have passed away. Since you're still living, your wife wouldn't qualify under that provision. As the expert correctly pointed out, for your situation, your wife would generally need to wait until age 62 to collect spousal benefits once you start receiving your retirement benefits. The only exception would be if she were caring for your child who is under 16 or disabled. I apologize for my error and the confusion it may have caused.

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Thanks for clarifying. We don't have young children at home, so that exception wouldn't apply to us. Looks like we'll need to figure out how to manage until she turns 62 in 10 years. I appreciate everyone's help in understanding these complicated rules.

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has she tried applying for disability again? sometimes ppl get denied first time but approved when they appeal. my sister got denied twice but then got a lawyer and won her case!!

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She applied for SSI (not SSDI) and was denied because of our assets, not because they didn't believe she was disabled. From what I understand, that's not something you can really appeal - either you meet the resource limits or you don't. Maybe we should talk to a Social Security attorney though to make sure we've explored all options.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much clearer on what to do now. I'll wait until after my husband receives his first payment in 3 months, then call SSA to make sure my spousal benefits are being processed correctly. I'll have our marriage certificate ready just in case they need it. The deemed filing information was particularly helpful - I didn't realize that would automatically tie everything together.

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Just wanted to add one more tip that helped me when I went through this process - keep detailed records of every phone call you make to SSA, including the date, time, and the name of the representative you spoke with (if they give it). Also write down any reference numbers they provide. I had to call back twice because of conflicting information from different reps, and having those details helped me get everything sorted out more quickly. The system can be frustrating, but most of the SSA staff really do want to help once you get through to them. Good luck with everything, and congratulations again on starting your retirement benefits!

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That's excellent advice about keeping detailed records! I learned this the hard way with other government agencies - having those reference numbers and rep names can be a lifesaver when you need to follow up. I'm definitely going to start a little notebook to track everything once I make that call in a few months. Thanks for the tip and the congratulations!

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