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Just wanted to update everyone - I just found a somewhat hidden feature in the my Social Security portal that gives more comparison options. After you log in, go to 'Plan for Retirement' (not the basic benefit calculator), then click 'Compare Retirement Options.' This tool lets you create and compare different scenarios with sliders for retirement age and future earnings. Still not a complete matrix, but much better than running one calculation at a time. Hope this helps!
I'm glad you found that comparison tool helpful! Another tip - if you're planning to work part-time after claiming benefits, make sure to factor in not just the earnings test but also how those continued earnings might actually increase your benefit amount. SSA recalculates your benefit each year if you have new earnings that are higher than one of the 35 years they used in your original calculation. So even if some benefits get withheld initially due to the earnings test, you could end up with a permanently higher monthly benefit once you stop working or reach FRA. It's another variable that makes the decision more complex but could work in your favor!
That's really interesting about the benefit recalculation! I hadn't thought about how working part-time could actually increase my benefit amount over time. Do you know if there's a way to see this potential increase in the online calculators, or is this something I'd need to call about? I'm planning to work part-time for a few years after claiming at my FRA, so this could be a significant factor in my planning.
Emma, I'm so sorry for your loss. This Medicare premium issue is unfortunately very common with survivor benefits - you're definitely being double-charged and it's not your fault at all. What's happening is that SSA's system automatically deducts Medicare premiums from retroactive payments without checking if you've already been paying directly to Medicare. The $1,380 sounds exactly right for Medicare Part B premiums over those 8 months. Here's what worked for me when I had this same issue: Call SSA first thing in the morning (7 AM when they open - much shorter wait times!) and ask specifically for a "Medicare Premium Duplicate Billing Refund." Have your bank statements ready showing your direct Medicare payments from August 2024 through February 2025. They'll verify with Medicare that you were paying directly, then process a refund that usually comes as an adjustment in a future monthly payment. Also consider switching to automatic premium deduction from your monthly benefits going forward - one less bill to manage during this difficult time. Don't get discouraged if it takes a couple tries to reach someone who understands the issue. This is a known system problem that experienced representatives can resolve quickly once you use the right terminology. You'll get your money back!
Thank you so much for your kind words and for confirming this is a system issue, not something I did wrong! I really appreciate the specific advice about calling at 7 AM - that timing tip seems to be the secret everyone wishes they'd known earlier. I've been trying to call during my lunch breaks from work, which now I realize is probably peak time when everyone else is calling too. I'll definitely set my alarm early and try first thing tomorrow morning. Having all these specific terms like "Medicare Premium Duplicate Billing Refund" from everyone here has been incredibly helpful. It's such a relief to know that experienced representatives can resolve this quickly once I use the right language. After feeling so overwhelmed with all the paperwork and changes since my husband passed, it means a lot to have clear, actionable steps to follow. I'm feeling much more confident that I'll be able to get this sorted out and get that $1,380 back where it belongs!
Emma, I'm so sorry for the loss of your husband. What you're experiencing is absolutely a Medicare premium double-billing issue, and it's unfortunately very common with survivor benefits. You're not alone in this! I went through something similar when I transitioned from private insurance to Medicare and then later started receiving Social Security. The SSA system automatically deducts Medicare premiums from any retroactive payments without checking whether you've already been paying them directly - it's a major system flaw that affects thousands of people. The $1,380 deduction you mentioned is almost certainly the Medicare Part B premiums for those 8 months (roughly $172-174 per month). Since you've been paying directly since age 65, you're absolutely being double-charged. Here's what I recommend based on my experience: Call SSA early in the morning (right at 7 AM when they open - much shorter wait times!) and use specific terminology like "Medicare Premium Duplicate Billing Adjustment" or "Medicare Premium Overpayment Refund." Have your bank statements ready showing all your direct Medicare payments for August 2024 through February 2025. They'll need to verify with Medicare that you were paying directly, but once confirmed, they should process a refund that typically comes as an adjustment in a future monthly payment. Also consider switching to automatic Medicare premium deduction from your survivor benefits going forward - it's much more convenient and prevents this confusion. Don't give up if the first representative doesn't understand right away. This is a known issue that any experienced SSA agent should be able to resolve. You'll get your money back!
My condolences on your father-in-law's passing. Just to share my experience - when my husband died, I was really confused about the whole survivor benefit process too. The amount they told me seemed too high at first, but it turned out to be correct. One thing that helped me was talking to other widows in my church group who'd been through the same process. Sometimes hearing from regular people who've navigated the same system is reassuring.
I went through something very similar when my father passed away in 2022. My mom was shocked by her survivor benefit amount - it was almost double what she expected! Like your mother-in-law, my dad had a great career early on but then worked sporadically for his last 20 years. What really helped us was getting an appointment at the local SSA office (took about 3 weeks to get in) and having them walk through the calculation step by step. They showed us his complete earnings history and explained how the indexing works - earnings from the 1980s were worth WAY more than we realized after inflation adjustments. The key thing is that they calculate based on his highest 35 years of earnings, not his most recent years. So even though he barely worked the last two decades, those early high-earning years still counted heavily in the formula. My advice: get all the documentation others mentioned, but don't panic. In our case, the high amount was completely legitimate. Your father-in-law's early successful career is likely the reason for the higher benefit. Just verify it's calculated correctly and then your MIL can make informed decisions about her future.
This is so reassuring to hear! Your situation sounds almost identical to ours. It makes perfect sense that those early high-earning years would still count so heavily in the calculation - I never would have thought about how inflation indexing works. A 3-week wait for an appointment doesn't sound too bad considering how important this is. I think getting that step-by-step walkthrough will really put her mind at ease. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's exactly what we needed to hear!
I'm in a very similar situation! I started collecting my benefits at 63 (needed the income after losing my job) and just turned 74. My ex and I were married for 16 years, and I never remarried either. Reading through these responses has been so helpful - I had no idea I might be eligible for divorced spouse benefits even though I'm already collecting my own reduced benefits. One thing I'm wondering about that I haven't seen mentioned yet - does anyone know if there's a time limit on how long after your divorce you can apply for these benefits? We've been divorced for almost 20 years now, and I'm worried I might have waited too long to look into this option. Also, for those who have successfully switched or supplemented their benefits - how long did the whole process take from application to receiving the increased payments? I'm hoping it's not a months-long wait since I'm living pretty tight on my current benefit amount. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences here - this community is such a valuable resource!
Hi Declan! Great questions. There's no time limit on when you can apply for divorced spouse benefits after your divorce - the fact that you've been divorced for 20 years doesn't disqualify you at all. As long as you meet the basic requirements (10+ year marriage, both over 62, you haven't remarried), you can apply anytime. As for processing time, in my experience it took about 6-8 weeks from when I submitted my application to when I saw the first increased payment. Some people report faster processing, especially if you have all your documentation ready (marriage certificate, divorce decree, etc.). The key is having everything organized when you apply. Given that you're 74 and were married for 16 years, you should definitely look into this! Even a small increase can make a big difference over time. I'd recommend calling SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to get the ball rolling. Good luck!
I'm in a somewhat similar situation - took early retirement benefits at 64 and wondering about divorced spouse benefits now. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational! One thing I'd like to add for anyone considering this: make sure you gather ALL your paperwork before contacting SSA. I learned this the hard way when dealing with disability paperwork years ago. Having your marriage certificate, divorce decree, and any other relevant documents organized beforehand can really speed up the process. Also, don't be discouraged if the first person you speak with isn't fully knowledgeable about divorced spouse benefits - as several people mentioned, the rules are complex and not all representatives are equally informed. Be prepared to explain your situation clearly and don't hesitate to ask to speak with a supervisor or specialist if needed. Sophia, I really hope this works out for you! Even a modest increase can make such a difference in monthly budgeting. Keep us posted on how it goes - your experience could help others in similar situations.
This is such valuable advice, Mason! I'm just starting to look into this myself and had no idea about the importance of having all the paperwork ready upfront. Do you happen to know if there are any other documents besides the marriage certificate and divorce decree that might be needed? I want to make sure I'm fully prepared before I make that first call to SSA. Also, your point about not getting discouraged by the first representative is really reassuring - it sounds like persistence can really pay off in these situations!
Yara Campbell
My brother is disabled and gets SS benefits. When my mom switched her benefits it didn't affect him at all so I think you're worrying too much. But the system is SO BROKEN you should expect problems anyway!!! It took them FOREVER to process my disability claim!!!
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Tony Brooks
•Thanks for sharing your experience. It's reassuring to know your brother's benefits weren't affected. I'm definitely going to proceed with caution though!
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Alina Rosenthal
I went through this exact situation 6 months ago when I turned FRA. I was receiving spouse benefits while caring for my disabled adult daughter who gets DAC benefits on my husband's record. I was so nervous about potentially disrupting everything, but I'm glad I applied for my own retirement benefits - I ended up getting an extra $180/month! Here's what actually happened: I applied online about 2 months before my FRA birthday. SSA automatically compared my potential retirement benefit to my current spouse benefit and switched me to the higher amount. My daughter's benefits continued without any interruption whatsoever. One tip that really helped me: when I filled out the online application, I wrote in the remarks section "Currently receiving spouse benefits while caring for disabled adult child. Please compare to retirement benefit and pay higher amount." This made it crystal clear what I wanted them to do. The whole process took about 6 weeks and I received a letter explaining the comparison and my new benefit amount. Don't let the horror stories scare you too much - most cases go smoothly, you just don't hear about those online!
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Ryan Vasquez
•This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I needed to hear! Thank you so much for sharing the specific language you used in the remarks section - that's incredibly helpful. It's reassuring to know that the process can actually go smoothly and that your daughter's benefits weren't affected at all. The extra $180/month probably makes a big difference too! I think I'm going to go ahead and apply online using your suggested wording. Did you have to provide any additional documentation beyond what the online form requested?
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