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Just to add some additional context for anyone who might be wondering - this early payment policy has been in place for decades and is actually written into federal regulations. The SSA payment schedule is published annually and clearly shows all the adjusted dates for holidays. You can find the official 2024 payment calendar on the SSA website under "When to expect your Social Security payment" which lists December 24th for payments that would normally be issued on December 25th. It's really convenient that they handle this automatically so we don't have to worry about it!
That's really reassuring to know it's written into federal regulations! As someone new to receiving Social Security, I wasn't sure how reliable the early payment system was. It's nice that they make the official payment calendar so easy to find on their website too. Thanks for sharing that resource!
This is great information everyone! I'm also new to Social Security and wasn't sure about the holiday payment schedule. It's really helpful to know that SSA has such a reliable system in place for early payments when holidays fall on payment dates. I was worried I'd have to contact them directly, but it sounds like it's all handled automatically. Thanks for sharing your experiences - it makes me feel much more confident about the process!
my aunt got widows benefits even tho she worked and had her own ss. they told her something about FRA and delayed retirement credits? i dont really understand it but maybe theres exceptions?
Your aunt's situation might have been different in a few ways: 1. Her husband may have delayed claiming past his Full Retirement Age (FRA), earning Delayed Retirement Credits that increased his benefit amount above what she was receiving. 2. It's also possible their benefit amounts weren't identical - even a small difference would mean the surviving spouse gets the higher amount. 3. There are special rules if she was claiming spousal benefits rather than her own worker benefit. Without knowing the specific details, it's hard to say exactly why her case was different, but these are the most likely explanations.
Just to add some clarity from someone who recently went through this process with my parents - the timing of when you contact Social Security after a death is important. You need to report the death promptly to avoid overpayments that would need to be returned later. Also, if you're currently receiving spousal benefits instead of your own worker benefits (which can happen if your spouse's benefit was higher), the calculation changes. The surviving spouse would then compare their own worker benefit to 100% of the deceased spouse's benefit and take whichever is higher. In your case with identical amounts, you'd definitely want to verify both of you are receiving your own worker benefits rather than spousal benefits, as this could affect the survivor calculation.
That's really helpful information about timing and reporting the death promptly - I hadn't considered that aspect. Your point about spousal vs worker benefits is interesting too. How can we tell if we're receiving our own worker benefits versus spousal benefits? Is this something that would be clearly indicated on our Social Security statements, or would we need to contact SSA directly to confirm? I want to make sure we understand exactly what type of benefits we're each receiving so we can plan accurately.
Thank you everyone for all the helpful responses! I've scheduled an appointment for next week using that Claimyr service (which worked amazingly well - took less than 10 minutes to get through to a real person). The agent I spoke with confirmed I should apply now for March benefits and gave me a list of documents to bring. She also explained the earnings limit since I still work part-time. I really appreciate all your advice and support!
That's wonderful to hear! It sounds like you're all set up for success. Just wanted to add one more tip - when you go to your appointment, consider asking about the option to switch to your own retirement benefits later if they would be higher. Since you can earn delayed retirement credits on your own record until age 70, you might be able to maximize your total lifetime benefits by starting with survivor benefits now and then switching later. The SSA representative can run the numbers for you to see if this strategy makes sense in your situation. Best of luck with your appointment!
Great to see you got everything sorted out! Just wanted to add that when you do go to your appointment, make sure to ask about retroactive benefits. Since survivor benefits can sometimes be paid retroactively up to 6 months before your application date (depending on your situation), it's worth asking if you're eligible for any back payments. Also, if you haven't already, consider setting up a my Social Security account online - it'll make it much easier to track your benefit statements and manage your account once everything is processed. The whole process can feel overwhelming at first, but it sounds like you're handling it perfectly!
This is such great advice about retroactive benefits and setting up the online account! I hadn't thought about either of those things. I'll definitely ask about back payments at my appointment - every bit helps. And you're right about the my Social Security account - I should probably set that up before I go so I'm familiar with it. Thanks for taking the time to share these additional tips. This community has been so helpful during what's been a pretty stressful process!
One more important point: If you do exceed the earnings limit, SSA doesn't necessarily reduce each month's benefit by the same amount. They typically withhold benefits completely for some months rather than reducing each payment. For example, if they determine you need to repay $5,000, and your monthly benefit is $2,500, they might withhold 2 full months of benefits. They'll notify you before they do this. Also, remember that any benefits withheld due to excess earnings aren't truly "lost" - once you reach FRA, SSA recalculates your benefit amount to give you credit for those months when benefits were withheld.
As someone who recently navigated this exact situation, I want to add a few practical tips that helped me: 1. **Create a simple tracking system NOW** - I use a basic spreadsheet with columns for date, hours worked, type of work, and income earned. This makes it easy to see if you're approaching either limit. 2. **Be conservative with your planning** - I aimed to stay about 10% under both the income and hours limits to give myself a buffer for unexpected projects or miscalculations. 3. **Consider timing your invoicing** - Since you're self-employed, you might have some flexibility in when you send invoices and receive payments. This can help you manage which months income gets counted toward. 4. **Keep ALL business records** - Even if SSA doesn't ask for them, having detailed records of expenses, hours, and income will save you headaches if questions arise later. The good news is that once you hit your FRA in August 2025, all these restrictions disappear completely. You're only dealing with about 8 months of careful tracking. It's manageable if you stay organized from the start!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm just starting to think about all this and feeling pretty overwhelmed by the complexity. The spreadsheet idea sounds perfect - I'm definitely going to set that up this weekend. One question about the invoicing timing - does it matter when I do the actual work versus when I get paid? Like if I complete a project in December 2024 but don't invoice until January 2025, which month does that income count toward? Also, thank you for mentioning the buffer strategy. I was planning to try to get right up to the limits, but staying 10% under sounds much safer given how confusing all these rules are!
Elijah Knight
I'm in a similar situation - turned 62 last month and dealing with reduced hours at work due to company cutbacks. One thing that helped me was creating a spreadsheet comparing different scenarios. For your situation with the knees and physical demands, have you looked into whether you might qualify for disability benefits? Sometimes that can be a bridge until you reach FRA, and disability converts to regular retirement at your full retirement age without the early retirement reduction. Also, regarding the golf course work idea - that sounds perfect for staying under the earnings limit while keeping active. Golf courses often need seasonal help and understand retirees' schedules. Quick tip: You can create a my.ssa.gov account to see your exact benefit estimates at different claiming ages. Much more accurate than the general calculators, and it's free directly from SSA. The asset protection piece is complex, but one simple step is making sure both you and your wife understand what assets are exempt in your state. Primary residence often has some protection, and retirement accounts have different rules than regular savings.
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NightOwl42
•Great point about checking disability benefits first! I hadn't really considered that as an option, but with my knee issues and the physical demands of warehouse work, it might be worth exploring. Do you know if applying for disability affects your ability to claim regular retirement benefits later if the disability claim gets denied? The my.ssa.gov account tip is really helpful too - I'll set that up this week to get the exact numbers for my situation. And you're right about the golf course work being ideal for staying under that earnings limit. I've actually been thinking about that local municipal course - they're always looking for help during busy season and it would be way easier on my joints than standing on concrete all day. Thanks for the practical advice!
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Zainab Khalil
As someone who went through this decision recently, I'd suggest getting your exact benefit calculations from my.ssa.gov before deciding. The difference between $1,850 at 62 vs $2,650 at 67 is significant over time, especially with your wife's reduced SS due to WEP. Since your wife has the teacher's pension providing some stability, you might consider a hybrid approach: file for benefits at 62 but continue working part-time at that golf course you mentioned. The earnings limit for 2025 is around $23,880, so you could supplement your reduced SS benefit while keeping busy and easing the physical strain on your knees. For asset protection, definitely consult an elder law attorney sooner rather than later. With $285k home equity and $430k in retirement accounts, you have assets worth protecting. The 5-year lookback clock starts ticking from when you set up certain trusts, not when you need care. One thing to consider: if you're the higher earner, your claiming decision affects your wife's potential survivor benefits. Since she's dealing with WEP reducing her own SS, your survivor benefit could be crucial for her financial security later. The golf course job sounds perfect - outdoor work, less physical stress, and likely seasonal which gives you flexibility. Much better than those warehouse concrete floors!
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Liam O'Reilly
•This is really helpful analysis, thank you! I like the hybrid approach idea - taking benefits at 62 but supplementing with part-time work. The golf course job would definitely be easier on my body than warehouse work, and staying under that $23,880 limit seems very doable with seasonal/part-time hours. You make a good point about the survivor benefits for my wife. With her SS being hit by WEP, she's only looking at maybe $400-500/month from Social Security when she retires. If something happens to me, that survivor benefit based on my earnings record could make a huge difference for her financial security. I'm definitely going to set up that my.ssa.gov account this week to get the exact numbers, and start looking into elder law attorneys in our area. Better to get that 5-year clock started sooner rather than later. The $3,500 cost someone mentioned earlier seems reasonable considering what we could potentially protect. Thanks for laying out the decision factors so clearly - it's helping me think through this more systematically instead of just focusing on whether to take benefits early or not.
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