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To clarify for everyone: When you apply for benefits in your first year of retirement, you need to: 1) Tell SSA you're retiring or significantly reducing work that month 2) Stay under the monthly limit for each month you receive benefits 3) Verify they coded your application for the monthly earnings test 4) Keep documentation of your work reduction If you do all that, then yes, your pre-retirement earnings in 2025 won't count against you. But you must actually reduce your work when you say you're going to.

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This is super helpful - thank you! I'll make sure to explicitly request the monthly earnings test when I apply and have documentation ready about my reduced hours starting in June.

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Just wanted to add one more important point - when you apply in June, make sure you get written confirmation from SSA that they're applying the monthly earnings test to your case. I've seen too many situations where people thought they were set up correctly but SSA was actually using the annual test. You can request this confirmation in writing or ask for a receipt showing how they coded your retirement date. This will save you a lot of headaches later if there's any confusion about which test applies to your situation.

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That's excellent advice about getting written confirmation! I hadn't thought about asking for a receipt showing how they coded my retirement date. Given some of the horror stories shared here about people getting hit with overpayment notices months later, having that documentation upfront seems crucial. Is there a specific form or document I should request, or just ask the agent to note it in my file?

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When I applied, I asked them to send me a "Notice of Award" or "Award Letter" that specifically mentions the monthly earnings test and my retirement effective date. You can also request what's called an "Earnings Test Determination" letter. If they can't provide that immediately, ask the representative to make detailed notes in your file about the monthly test application and request a follow-up letter confirming this within 30 days. Having this paper trail saved me when there was confusion later about my earnings limit calculation.

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also just wanna say the whole $2000 limit is ridiculous in 2025!!! how is anyone supposed to save anything with that stupid rule??? cant even have emergency savings without losing benefits smh

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PREACH!!! The $2000 limit hasn't changed since the 1980s!!! Total garbage rule that keeps disabled people in poverty forever!!! Even a basic emergency fund would put you over the limit. Makes me so angry!!!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share what I learned when I had a similar situation last year. I received a $1,800 class action settlement and was terrified about losing my SSI benefits. After doing some research and talking to a benefits counselor, I found out there are actually several options beyond just the basic "spend down" rule that others have mentioned: 1. **Irrevocable burial/funeral trusts** (as many have mentioned) - completely exempt from resource limits 2. **ABLE accounts** - if you became disabled before age 26, you can put up to $18,000/year into these special savings accounts that don't count toward SSI limits 3. **Plan to Achieve Self-Support (PASS)** - even for smaller amounts, you might be able to use this to set aside money for work-related goals The burial trust option sounds perfect for your situation since the money originally came from a pre-need plan anyway. Just make sure it's set up as an irrevocable trust specifically for burial/funeral expenses. Also, definitely report it within the 10-day window - that's mandatory regardless of which option you choose. The SSA takes unreported resources very seriously and will eventually find out through data matching with banks and other agencies. Good luck! The system is complicated but there are legitimate ways to handle this without losing your benefits.

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea about ABLE accounts - unfortunately I became disabled after 26 so that won't work for me, but the burial trust option keeps sounding like the best solution. Do you know if there are specific requirements for how the trust needs to be set up to qualify as exempt? I want to make sure I do this right the first time.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also be aware of how bonuses, vacation pay, or sick pay might be handled if any of that comes into play with your December work. Sometimes these payments follow different timing rules than regular wages. Also, if you're planning to work similar extra shifts in the future, it might be worth asking your employer if they can adjust the pay period cutoff dates to help you manage your earnings limits more predictably. Some employers are willing to work with employees on Social Security to help with timing issues like this.

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This is such a helpful point about bonuses and vacation pay! I'm fairly new to dealing with Social Security and hadn't even considered how different types of pay might be handled. My employer does sometimes give year-end bonuses, so I should definitely ask about that timing too. The idea of talking to them about adjusting pay period cutoffs is brilliant - I never would have thought employers might be willing to help with that kind of thing. It makes sense though, especially if it helps employees avoid benefit reductions. Thanks for sharing this insight!

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I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a twist - I'm 64 and will turn 65 next April. My employer offers holiday pay for working Christmas and New Year's, but those premium payments don't come until mid-January. Since I'll still be under my FRA, I assume the same "when paid" rule applies, meaning that holiday premium would count toward 2025 earnings even though the work happens in 2024. Has anyone dealt with holiday premium pay timing before? I want to make sure I understand this correctly before I commit to working those holidays.

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Just wanted to share my experience as someone who's been receiving Social Security for over 10 years - the early payment system for holidays works like clockwork. I've never had a single instance where my payment was delayed because of a holiday. December 24th is definitely when you'll see your money! One thing I've learned is to set up text or email alerts with your bank so you get notified the moment the deposit hits your account. Takes away all the anxiety of checking and rechecking. Most banks offer this service for free and it's been a lifesaver for me during holiday periods when I'm worried about timing.

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This is such great practical advice! I never thought about setting up bank alerts for deposits. That would definitely help with the peace of mind, especially during holidays when everything feels uncertain. I'm going to call my bank tomorrow and set this up. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through this many times successfully!

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I'm new to receiving Social Security and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I was panicking about the same thing since my first payment is scheduled for December 25th. Reading everyone's experiences about getting paid early on the 24th instead of late has put my mind at ease. It's reassuring to know that SSA has a consistent policy for this and that so many people have had positive experiences with holiday payment timing. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge - this community is such a valuable resource for navigating these situations!

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I'm glad to see you got such helpful answers here! As someone who went through a similar situation with my late husband's benefits, I can confirm that land contract payments won't affect your survivor benefits. One small tip I learned the hard way - when you do get that lump sum, consider setting aside a portion for taxes if there's any gain involved. Even though it won't affect your SSA benefits, depending on how the original sale was structured, there might be capital gains implications when the contract pays off early. Your tax preparer will know for sure, but it's good to be prepared so you're not surprised come tax time. Also, congratulations on having that financial cushion coming your way. Losing a spouse is hard enough without worrying about money constantly. This should give you some peace of mind.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and the practical advice about setting aside money for taxes! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through something similar. I hadn't thought about the capital gains angle, but you're right - I should definitely discuss that with my tax preparer before the payoff happens. And thank you for the kind words about the financial cushion. You're absolutely right that losing my husband has been incredibly difficult, and having this worry about my benefits resolved is such a relief. This community has been so helpful!

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I'm so sorry for the loss of your husband. Dealing with financial uncertainties while grieving is incredibly stressful. The community here has given you excellent advice - your land contract payoff won't affect your survivor benefits since it's unearned income, not wages from employment. I wanted to add one more consideration that might be helpful: if you're not already working with one, this might be a good time to establish a relationship with a fee-only financial planner who has experience with widows and Social Security planning. With $125,000 coming in, you'll want to think strategically about how to make that money work for you long-term while preserving your current benefits. They can help you understand the optimal timing for potentially switching from survivor benefits to your own retirement benefits down the road, and help you invest this lump sum in a way that provides additional income security. Keep all the documentation from this land contract transaction in a safe place. While you shouldn't need to report it to SSA, having clear records will be helpful for taxes and any future financial planning decisions.

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Thank you for the thoughtful advice and condolences. You're absolutely right about working with a fee-only financial planner - I hadn't considered that but it makes so much sense, especially with this lump sum coming in. I've been kind of flying by the seat of my pants financially since my husband passed, and having professional guidance on optimizing my benefits and investing this money wisely would be really valuable. Do you have any suggestions on how to find a good fee-only planner who specializes in Social Security planning for widows? I want to make sure I find someone who really understands these specific situations.

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