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I'm so sorry for your loss, Ella. I went through this same process about 18 months ago when my wife passed. You definitely cannot apply online for survivor benefits - it has to be done by phone or in person. The most frustrating part is getting through on the phone. I found that calling right when they open at 7am local time gave me the best chance of getting through without waiting hours. Also, make sure you have your husband's Social Security number handy when you call, as they'll need it right away to pull up his record. Once you do get an appointment, the actual process was much smoother than I expected - the representative was very compassionate and walked me through everything step by step. Hang in there, and don't hesitate to ask questions during your appointment.
Thank you for sharing your experience and the tip about calling at 7am - that's really practical advice! I've been trying to call during lunch breaks and after work, which probably explains why I keep getting busy signals. I'll try calling first thing in the morning instead. It's reassuring to hear that once you get past the phone hurdle, the actual appointment goes smoothly. I really appreciate everyone here sharing their experiences during what I know must have been difficult times for all of you.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Ella. I went through this exact situation when my father passed away two years ago. You're right that survivor benefits cannot be applied for online - it's one of the few SSA benefits that still requires a phone call or in-person visit. What worked for me was calling the national SSA number (1-800-772-1213) at exactly 8:00 AM on a Tuesday. I had better luck midweek rather than Mondays or Fridays. Also, have a pen and paper ready because they'll give you a confirmation number for your appointment that you'll need. The waiting time for appointments can be 3-4 weeks depending on your area, so don't get discouraged if they can't see you right away. Once you do get your appointment, the process itself was actually straightforward and the representative was very helpful in explaining all my options. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.
This is such valuable information for anyone doing estate planning! I'm 58 and my husband is 62, and we had no idea about the survivor benefit switching rules. Reading through everyone's experiences really highlights how critical it is to understand these options beforehand. One thing I'm wondering about - if my husband delays his own Social Security past his FRA to get delayed retirement credits, would that increase the survivor benefit I'd potentially receive? It seems like maximizing his benefit amount could be a good strategy if I'm likely to outlive him, but I want to make sure I understand how delayed retirement credits affect survivor benefits.
Yes, delayed retirement credits would increase the survivor benefit! If your husband delays claiming past his FRA, he earns 8% per year in delayed retirement credits until age 70. Those credits would increase the survivor benefit you'd receive. So if his FRA benefit is $3,000 and he delays until 70, his benefit (and your potential survivor benefit) would be about $3,960. This can be a great strategy for couples where the higher earner is likely to pass away first. Just make sure to balance the increased future benefit against the years of benefits not received - it's a complex calculation that depends on life expectancy and your immediate financial needs.
This has been such an educational thread! I'm 55 and my husband is 60, and we've been putting off learning about Social Security because it seemed so complicated. But reading everyone's real experiences makes it clear we need to understand our options now, not later. The flexibility survivors have with switching between benefits is something I never knew about - it's actually pretty reassuring that there are strategies to optimize benefits even in difficult circumstances. I'm particularly struck by the stories about SSA agents giving incorrect information. It sounds like you really need to be your own advocate and know the rules before you call. I think I'll start by getting our benefit estimates from the SSA website and maybe consulting with a financial planner who specializes in Social Security strategies. Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge - this kind of peer-to-peer learning is so much more helpful than trying to decipher government websites!
You're absolutely right about needing to be your own advocate! I'm also relatively new to understanding Social Security rules, and this thread has been incredibly helpful. The peer-to-peer learning aspect is so valuable - hearing real experiences from people who've actually navigated these situations gives you insights you just can't get from official publications. I especially appreciate how people have shared specific numbers and strategies. Getting your benefit estimates is definitely a smart first step. I'm planning to do the same and maybe create a spreadsheet to model different scenarios based on what I've learned here. It's nice to know we have time to plan and understand our options before we need to make these important decisions!
Just wanted to add one important detail that might help others in similar situations - when you do make the switch from your retirement benefit to survivor benefits at 67, there's no gap in payments. SSA will automatically adjust your monthly payment starting the month you reach FRA, so you don't need to reapply or worry about missing payments during the transition. Also, since you mentioned tight finances, remember that survivor benefits aren't subject to the earnings test once you reach FRA, so if you're still working part-time at 67, that income won't affect your survivor benefit amount. This is different from regular retirement benefits which are subject to earnings limits until FRA. Good luck with your strategy - it sounds like you've got a solid plan given your circumstances!
This is really helpful information! I didn't realize the transition would be automatic once I reach FRA - that takes away one of my worries about potential gaps in coverage. And knowing that the earnings test won't apply to survivor benefits at FRA is great since I might still be working part-time then. Thanks for clarifying these details!
I went through a very similar situation about 3 years ago - divorced after 22 years, ex-husband passed away, and I had the same strategic decision to make. I ended up doing exactly what you're planning: took my own reduced retirement at 62, then switched to survivor benefits at my FRA. The key thing that helped me was getting a written statement from SSA confirming my plan before I applied. When I filed for my retirement benefits at 62, I specifically stated I was "restricting my application to retirement benefits only" and that I intended to claim survivor benefits later. The SSA representative made a note in my file, which prevented any confusion later. One tip: when you do switch to survivor benefits at 67, you'll want to contact SSA about a month before your birthday to initiate the process, even though it should be automatic. I did this and it ensured a smooth transition with no payment delays. The difference in my monthly payment went from about $1,100 (my reduced retirement) to $2,850 (survivor benefit) - life-changing! Your plan sounds solid given the income difference. Just make sure everything is documented properly with SSA from the start.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Keith. This is definitely a complex situation, but you're smart to research your options thoroughly before making any decisions. One important clarification I'd like to add: while the earnings test can reduce your survivor benefits if you work before FRA, there's actually a special rule for the year you reach FRA. In that year, the earnings limit is much higher (about $60,240 for 2025) and only earnings in months before you reach FRA count against you. Since you'll be 65 in April, if your FRA is 67, you'd have this higher earnings limit available in 2027. This might influence your timing strategy. Also, I'd strongly recommend creating a my Social Security account online if you haven't already. While it won't give you survivor benefit estimates (you need to speak with SSA for those), you can at least see your own benefit estimates and earnings history, which will help you compare your options. The suggestion about potentially reducing your work hours is excellent - sometimes a strategic reduction in income can actually increase your total monthly resources when benefits are factored in. Just make sure to run the numbers carefully with actual benefit amounts once you get them from SSA. Best of luck navigating this process!
Thank you Mia, that's really valuable information about the special earnings limit rule in the year you reach FRA! I hadn't heard about that higher limit ($60,240) - that could definitely change the timing strategy. Since my FRA would be 67, having that much higher earnings limit in 2027 could make a big difference. I'll definitely ask about that when I speak with SSA. I do have a my Social Security account set up, so I can at least look at my own projected benefits while I wait to get the survivor benefit calculations. This whole thread has given me so many things to consider that I never would have thought of on my own. Really grateful for everyone's expertise here!
I'm so sorry for your loss, Keith. Losing an ex-spouse brings up so many complicated feelings and practical concerns. Just wanted to add another perspective on your situation - since you mentioned being exhausted and wanting to work less, you might want to consider that this could actually be the perfect time to make a career transition. Some people use the survivor benefit as a bridge to help them shift to part-time work, freelancing, or even starting a small business where they have more control over their income timing. For example, if you could transition to contract or consulting work in your field, you might be able to time your income to stay under the earnings limits in certain years while earning more in others. This could give you both the financial breathing room and the lifestyle change you're looking for. Also, don't forget to check if your ex-husband had any life insurance policies that named you as beneficiary - sometimes people forget to update those after divorce, and it could provide additional financial cushion while you figure out your Social Security strategy. The fact that you're researching all this so thoroughly shows you're going to make a well-informed decision. Take your time and don't feel pressured to decide quickly - these benefits aren't going anywhere!
That's such a thoughtful perspective about using this as an opportunity for career transition! I hadn't even considered the possibility of freelancing or consulting work where I could have more control over timing my income. As someone who's worked in the same office environment for years, the idea of having that kind of flexibility is really appealing, especially given how burned out I've been feeling lately. The point about life insurance policies is also really important - I honestly hadn't thought to check on that. My ex and I had a fairly amicable divorce, so it's possible he never updated those beneficiary designations. That could definitely provide some additional financial security while I'm figuring out this whole Social Security situation. Thank you for reminding me that I don't need to rush into any decisions - sometimes when you're dealing with grief and financial stress, it feels like everything needs to be decided immediately. It's reassuring to know I can take time to really think through all these options and maybe even explore some new career paths I hadn't considered before.
Tasia Synder
To answer your follow-up question - your wife claiming her own benefit early does NOT affect her survivor benefit. If you pass away, she would get your full benefit amount regardless of when she claimed her own benefit. This is why many financial advisors recommend the hybrid strategy for couples with significant benefit disparities. Given your numbers, if she claimed at her FRA (probably around $1,230/month based on what you shared), you'd get some SS income flowing while still maximizing your benefit (and her eventual survivor benefit). Just make sure she's at least at her own FRA to avoid any potential reduction from the earnings test if she's still working.
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Danielle Campbell
•This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea her claiming early wouldn't affect her survivor benefit. We'll definitely look into this hybrid approach. It seems like we could get some benefits flowing now while still protecting her long-term with the maximum survivor benefit. Thank you!
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Angelina Farar
As someone who recently went through this same decision process, I'd strongly recommend creating a simple spreadsheet to model both scenarios with your actual numbers. Include factors like potential tax implications, investment returns on the early money, and don't forget about Medicare premiums potentially increasing with higher income later. The hybrid approach mentioned by others is brilliant - having your wife claim at her FRA while you delay gives you the best of both worlds. You get some immediate cash flow for those home accessibility improvements and European trip, while still maximizing the survivor benefit protection. One thing I wish I'd considered earlier: inflation protection. That guaranteed 8% annual increase by waiting isn't just about the raw dollars - it's also building in better inflation protection for both of you long-term. With your strong longevity genes, that could be worth hundreds of thousands over your lifetimes. The peace of mind factor is real too. Knowing you've optimized for the surviving spouse (likely your wife given typical gender longevity differences) can be worth a lot psychologically, even if the pure math is close.
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Rachel Clark
•This is such a thoughtful breakdown! As someone new to this community and facing retirement decisions myself, I really appreciate seeing all these different perspectives laid out. The spreadsheet idea makes so much sense - it's easy to get caught up in the emotional aspects of the decision without running the actual numbers. I hadn't thought about the Medicare premium implications of higher SS income later. Could you elaborate on how that might affect the calculation? Also, the inflation protection angle is really compelling - especially with everything we've seen with rising costs lately. The hybrid strategy seems like it could work well for a lot of couples. It's reassuring to see there are ways to get some benefits flowing while still protecting the long-term survivor benefit.
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